P1na: 1) As for why I would like to play this way? Well, I dislike the deep way of playing that is meant to be "correct", simple as that. You dislike it when people don't take it seriously enough, I dislike it when I can't even post a joke without thinking things through a dozen times. When I first joined a mafia game, I was all excited about this guess the murderer game; but once I started playing there were tons of walls of text, people pointing fingers at anyone stepping out of line, acronyms I kept having to look up in google and a very stiff atmosphere overall.
2) The games I join are typically the ones where there are not enough players, as a kind of filler.
3) That's a fair argument. You can indeed consider me someone who is not going to help much and therefore get rid of me. I'm certainly not going to go in depth of each post and carefully cross examine them with their previous plays to discover leads.
Sigh, spouse's mac. Doing meaningful analysis across multiple posts without the adalia search installed sucks. So despite feeling the problem with P1na is a series of posts, I'm just going to respond to this one.
#1 - I hate to say it, but at some point analysis and careful discussion IS the game. Not to say there's no room for joking (IIRC I made two awesome jokes this very evening! Right, Hijack?), but do so with the awareness that there are limits, and that certain plays will net reactions.
_Slaugh_ runs a great "guess the murderer" game every few months - I love those. They're fast-moving, frivolous, fun, and someone wins a prize in the end! Mafia is not that. Whoever wins will have put in a month's worth of effort. For all that, we don't even have prizes. Though yogs at least imagines he has a line of players kissing his heiney.
Though sure, we could be nicer to one another at times, and some of us could benefit from being a bit more concise (ahem). I don't consider myself a hard-liner, especially on things like LAL. I find a significant number of posts funny.
FWIW, there is a way to do exactly what you're talking about and still be "successful" in the game. Look around the table and you'll see a range of people joking/serious, engaged/disengaged, hard-assed/flexible. There are a half-dozen players I couldn't tell you how much attention they're actually paying.
On point #2, I actually beefed about a related point in my analysis at the end of the last game. Expanding games at the last minute just because there are a few players who say "Meh, sure I'll be filler" or pile in at the end rarely seems to go well.
Had you not signed up thinking of yourself as filler, then the game likely would have launched with 12 and I almost certainly wouldn't be in this game as the most reluctant player at the table. I never even agreed to play, dammit! Though that ship has sailed.
At risk of sounding a dick, now that I am here, I'm going to do my best, at least for as long as I can manage. It doesn't seem quite like that's your approach. So, I can't really take it out on Lift for my being here (never a good idea to attack the mod), and I'm going to try not to take it out on other players putting in time. I don't want to say I'm taking it out on you, but since you signed up without really wanting to be here, and that resulted in me being here this week rather than sitting like I would have preferred...there is some of that.
You've given a number of reasons why we should vote for you, but #3 is the clincher. I'm not RW (game 29) insisting we should/must go ahead and lynch the vanilla because it would be a wasted investigation. But claiming neutral survivor willing to turn against town, then stating that was a joke and claiming town vanilla as a follow, then claiming you aren't even going to bother to vote (i.e. read/analyze) seriously...
In one sweep of posts you've stated an anti-town agenda, invited LAL, then knocked out of play the two things vanilla can do to help town win: eat an NK, and use one's vote wisely. It may be better to be lucky than good, and maybe you poop rabbit's feet when it comes to voting, but I don't think we can count on that. And this isn't even really exhaustive (perhaps exhaust
ing, however, so I'll wrap it up).
I don't really know you outside this game. I'm sure you're a lovely individual. I love mafia (at least slightly more often than I hate it), and enjoy the chance to make jokes in the game and have some fun with people. I'd like it if more people enjoyed it. I just...
Vote P1na.