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yogsloth: I have to admit, common for games with too-long Days, I'm starting to fade in my interest a bit. I tried to read all that up there (about 719 forward), but man, I have a pile of work to get to and I don't think anything really worth reading happened, did it? Sorry. By my count we have about 7½ hours until the crisis event finally resolves, so thank god we'll have something real to talk about by that point.

Noting that Ix's strategy for dealing with the heat of his wagon is to simply disappear and let us talk ourselves out of it, which we seem to be trying to do.
I don't think there was actually anything in there that really related to you. Mostly arguing about playstyles and relative reticence.

I figure about 5.3 hours to the Crisis resolution. It's happening at 20:30 GMT, which is 16:30 EST. It's now 11:10 EST, which gives 5.3. Is that right?
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yogsloth: I have to admit, common for games with too-long Days, I'm starting to fade in my interest a bit. I tried to read all that up there (about 719 forward), but man, I have a pile of work to get to and I don't think anything really worth reading happened, did it? Sorry. By my count we have about 7½ hours until the crisis event finally resolves, so thank god we'll have something real to talk about by that point.

Noting that Ix's strategy for dealing with the heat of his wagon is to simply disappear and let us talk ourselves out of it, which we seem to be trying to do.
There were some good things addressed, I hope, in the logs above, it's quite a lot, I know, get to it piece-meal if you can, as, I think it helps the situation be clearer to see everything that unfolds. But I also agree, a lot of it is needlessly superfluous or redundant or just unnecessary at this point, as krypsyn and others have commented on at this point, time to just get the votes from everyone, count them, deal with the crisis when its time-limit is up, and move the situation forward. No point much in dickering around with all the nuances and stuff at this point.

I think that is a fair strategy for Ix, he said his piece, made it clear, and now the choices are up to be made by every individual. No one seems to be continuing to argue for voting for him very strongly and not enough people have voted for him to make him it, so, yeah, we can all just do what we can do and see where we're at once things move a bit.

I'm with you on being ready for it do to so and looking forward to the unfoldings of the rest of the day.
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drealmer7: I'm wondering if there might be more negative consequences if we don't decide who to eliminate before the crisis is over. Does anyone think that is a possibility?
I doubt it. We are usually presented with a clear deadline and we aren't facing one right now. Unless the crisis triggers premature day end in some way we should be good.
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drealmer7: I'm wondering if there might be more negative consequences if we don't decide who to eliminate before the crisis is over. Does anyone think that is a possibility?
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dedoporno: I doubt it. We are usually presented with a clear deadline and we aren't facing one right now. Unless the crisis triggers premature day end in some way we should be good.
*smallcough...cough....cough* You...mean...like the...ventilation systems failing and we all pass out? *yawn**deep breath*
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drealmer7: *smallcough...cough....cough* You...mean...like the...ventilation systems failing and we all pass out? *yawn**deep breath*
Thank you for verifying something for me through your role playing. No idea how many others understand this reference, so let me drop it for those that do.
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yogsloth:
I basically said what I wanted to get out there, should I be lynched. Plus we had some good chatter and seeing as I feel like I had monopolizied a bit of the conversation it seemed like a good thing to let other people talk about, well, other people LOL.

And I really didn't know what to make of a lot of the conversation going on believe it or not. This did catch my attention though, and I thought it was a really good point:

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Krypsyn: I think he gave me a pass too quickly, and I think he is giving Vitek too hard a time. While I technically did not lie, my statements were designed to mislead. While Vitek did technically lie, few people could have possibly been misled by his statements. Mchack's dogged adherence to the LAL rule, in the face of what I feel are fairly intuitive mitigating circumstances, make me think he is just scum looking for a 'pro-town' excuse to vote for someone.
And mchack followed up a bit later with this:

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mchack: You might have noticed I'm not that good at picking those up, but I guess if Vitek would just give me a sensible answer that I can dig, I'd be far less demanding. But this distracting and evading, makes him all the more scummy to me.
Is this Vitek provoking mchack into an overreaction? Is this mchack portraying Vitek as "distracting and evading" when his comments really were harmless and well understood? I'm tempted to drop a vote on either Vitek or mchack just to push the issue a bit more and get others' reaction.

And I admit I'm a bit guilty of going into standby mode waiting for the outcome of the Crisis Event. I realize there could be negative consequences to failing a lynch before that happens, but I don't think it's that likely.

And yog, this is the second time you've seemed to mention a deadline. Now, I get it - no one likes a brisk and aggressive game of Mafia more than I do - but I've made my feelings known about how easy I think it is for scum to sneak in unscrutinized deadline voting and the fact that you'd (seem?) to push for a deadline is a bit alarming to me.
Chapter 1: In Which Many Rambling Thoughts are Made Public

1.1
I refuse to vote for drealmer7 today. My reasoning? Because this is his first game. It's the principle of the thing.
I'm not giving him a free pass to the endgame. He's still very much under my watchful eye, but I won't lynch a new player on his first Day.
Though he may wish to be lynched by the time Today is over...

1.2
I don't like Vitek and his 17.
This is why I fought with Bookwyrm627 is Game #28. Town isn't usually helped by scummy plays. Now, we may get some useful information from this later in the game, but I don't see any forthcoming at present, and he hasn't said that he meant it for an info-gathering gambit.
However, I see no way for this play to benefit scum, so I don't presently think he's an intruder.

1.3
I'm going to muse on various possibilities related to PM stuff and general mechanics. Don't worry! I won't go spilling any more of mine.

1.3.1
The stats are linked to the role or lack thereof. This would seem to indicate that the stats will play a part in the night actions.

1.3.2
The stats are linked to name and rank. Here there are two further possibilities that I see.

1.3.2.1
Name and rank is linked to alignment. Then we have stats, name, rank, and alignment all coming together in one big package. I think this would help with balancing, but it would probably be a nightmare of initial setup.

1.3.2.2
Name and rank is not linked to alignment. Then we have stats, name, and rank coming as a package. This doesn't make quite as much sense, because name and rank seem to be flavour, but it's a possibility, and that's all I'm looking for.

1.3.3
The stats are linked to the alignment. This could provide an explanation for Vitek claiming 17 FIN, and it would make thematic sense. However, 17 still seems unlikely and I still don't see a reason for Vitek to actually claim that.

1.3.4
The stats were assigned randomly, just like alignment and role are usually assigned. In this case, stats would have to be carefully balanced, so ensure that scum couldn't randomly have a stat advantage. In this case, I don't see why there would be stat-sums of 15, 16, and 17. Doesn't seem quite balanced, to me.

1.3.5
The name and rank is linked to the role. This would make thematic sense, but it could potentially make claiming very dangerous.

1.4
Is our current Team division typical of the rest of the Crisis events?
Are we going to have two and two in every event; e.g. 2 FIN and 2 STR?
Are we going to get larger teams; e.g. 2 INT, 2 FIN, and 1 STR?
Are we going to get larger stat-requirements; e.g. 4 INT?

1.5
TL;DR - Whatever. Don't bother. It's not really important.
Hey all, sorry I have been a little MIA the past two days or so. I have had a big project going on at work and it has been stressing the crap out of me. When I get stressed, I tend to be a very reactionary, so I've tried to keep my posts to a minimum so as not to be the cra-cra lady here. But, the worst of it is over and I will be catching up on everything today. peace!
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Crewdroog: Hey all, sorry I have been a little MIA the past two days or so. I have had a big project going on at work and it has been stressing the crap out of me. When I get stressed, I tend to be a very reactionary, so I've tried to keep my posts to a minimum so as not to be the cra-cra lady here. But, the worst of it is over and I will be catching up on everything today. peace!
-lobs an irradiated haggis at you- Hi there, welcome back. =)
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Crewdroog: Hey all, sorry I have been a little MIA the past two days or so. I have had a big project going on at work and it has been stressing the crap out of me. When I get stressed, I tend to be a very reactionary, so I've tried to keep my posts to a minimum so as not to be the cra-cra lady here. But, the worst of it is over and I will be catching up on everything today. peace!
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CarrionCrow: -lobs an irradiated haggis at you- Hi there, welcome back. =)
oh my favorite! you shouldn't have. :) thanks.
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CarrionCrow: -lobs an irradiated haggis at you- Hi there, welcome back. =)
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Crewdroog: oh my favorite! you shouldn't have. :) thanks.
It's good that you like those. As of last check, we have 4,691 of them on-board and no one else can stand the bloody things.
OK, I went back and caught up on everything. I was really looking for the important stuff.



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agentcarr16: I'm mulling over how you derive the pmf of the number of coin flips required to observe the same face on consecutive flips.
Well, what do you mean by "required"? The actual function is simple (attached), but your statement doesn't really make sense as, of course, there is theoretically an infinite bound on the number of consecutive same-face flips.
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yogsloth: OK, I went back and caught up on everything. I was really looking for the important stuff.

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agentcarr16: I'm mulling over how you derive the pmf of the number of coin flips required to observe the same face on consecutive flips.
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yogsloth: Well, what do you mean by "required"? The actual function is simple (attached), but your statement doesn't really make sense as, of course, there is theoretically an infinite bound on the number of consecutive same-face flips.
I'm looking for a simple function that will tell me the probability that it will take x flips to observe the same on consecutive flips.
The answer turns out to be (1/2)^(x-1).

e.g.
What is the probability that it will take 4 flips to observe the same face on two consecutive flips?
It is (1/2)^(4-1) = 1/(2^3) =1/8

And yes, that was really important. Homework, you know...
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RWarehall: ......................
And I was thinking Drealmer7 could assign Chapters and and maybe even verses to the posts. That why we could publish the .pdf when this is over...
Awesome....just awesome!!!

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drealmer7: I'm wondering if there might be more negative consequences if we don't decide who to eliminate before the crisis is over. Does anyone think that is a possibility?
Perhaps...
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agentcarr16:
Hmm. I have thoughts to go with your thoughts, but the obligatory question has to be asked first.

Are you planning to stab me in the head after we have a conversation about some of the things you mentioned?