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Posted October 07, 2015
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Vitek: We are not doing no-lynch.
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drealmer7: Speak for yourself only, please.
We are not voting for a no-lynch on day 1. Feel free to ask if you want me to explain why, but it is a very bad idea.
Posted October 07, 2015
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trentonlf: There's two sides to every coin, but you are only looking at one side.
I'm open to seeing all sides, even the tiny edges. If you have any information, share it, that is why I ask "thoughts?" If all you have are premature accusations and conjecture, try not to be so steadfast in your ways, simply listen to the possibilities and tell me what you think of the possibilities, that is all I am asking.

This makes more suspicious behavior from you, trentonlf. It seems you're trying to confuse the situation. I didn't say anything about yogsloth being crew as fact. The facts are that for some reason, yogsloth is getting jumped on prematurely with no reason. I read all of the log entrees, multiple times. Just because I don't have proof that yogsloth is not scum, does not make him scum. Let's not commit the age-old fallacy of "if the person floats they're a witch" or whatever nonsense. Trying to jump to conclusions and put the blame on someone without any evidence only paints yourself as possible intruder, along with the others I have listed (I've gone back and forth on you, you're simply drawing more suspicion by your irrationalities.) I'm not saying they are intruders, I'm saying I find it more possible that they are than others. Again, let's not make any hasty decisions and try and keep calm.
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drealmer7: Speak for yourself only, please.
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JMich: We are not voting for a no-lynch on day 1. Feel free to ask if you want me to explain why, but it is a very bad idea.
Again, speak for yourself only, please. It makes me extremely uncomfortable that you use the term "we." As if you have some authority over our group. If you care to share why you think it is a bad idea, I'd be open to hearing it, but all I see as of now is a bunch of pre-mature accusations and that someone may die that doesn't need to.
Post edited October 07, 2015 by drealmer7
Posted October 07, 2015
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drealmer7: Again, speak for yourself only, please. It makes me extremely uncomfortable that you use the term "we." As if you have some authority over our group. If you care to share why you think it is a bad idea, I'd be open to hearing it, but all I see as of now is a bunch of pre-mature accusations and that someone may die that doesn't need to.
1) Do not double post, it merges the posts together. Not sure if this is the case with this post, though it appears to be.
2) Consider the situation we are on Day 1. A bunch of people (16 in this game) with no idea who to vote for, or why. We all go for the no lynch, night comes, then Day 2. We still have no idea who to vote for, and we are one townie down. Unless you know that there are investigative roles (and multiple at that) who may give us some info on the next day, going for no lynch is a very bad idea, since it basically means we just lost one person. And if you vote no-lynch because you do have knowledge of an investigative role, that means that you are said role, so you just gave scum a very big fat juicy target for the night kill.

Suggesting no lynch on day 1 is a bad idea. Thus why I (and Vitek) say that we won't be going for no lynch.
Posted October 07, 2015
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JMich: 1) Do not double post, it merges the posts together. Not sure if this is the case with this post, though it appears to be.
2) Consider the situation we are on Day 1. A bunch of people (16 in this game) with no idea who to vote for, or why. We all go for the no lynch, night comes, then Day 2. We still have no idea who to vote for, and we are one townie down. Unless you know that there are investigative roles (and multiple at that) who may give us some info on the next day, going for no lynch is a very bad idea, since it basically means we just lost one person. And if you vote no-lynch because you do have knowledge of an investigative role, that means that you are said role, so you just gave scum a very big fat juicy target for the night kill.

Suggesting no lynch on day 1 is a bad idea. Thus why I (and Vitek) say that we won't be going for no lynch.
- ROLEPLAY BREAK for clerical error - I swear I responded to trentonlf before your post, and then replied to your post, I thought I had a post between my two posts and I didn't think they'd merge. I'm very sorry. Rest assured I have no ill intentions with this behavior. If this explanation or whatever isn't satisfactory to you and would like me to address it further in broken RP, I will do so, designated as such in this example. RESUME RP . -



So you would sooner voluntarily kill someone who may or may not be a crew-member and potentially lose 2 crew-members in a single day/overnight vs. wait to possibly have more information and only lose 1 to the intruders who will most certainly strike while we're sleeping and kill 1 of us off? I don't know anything about "investigatory roles" or whatever you speak of, honestly, that makes not much sense to me (if someone has information, why are they waiting to share it?), I'm simply trying to go about our situation logically and not have any unnecessary deaths.
Posted October 07, 2015
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drealmer7: - Krypsyn then comes in with a vote for yogsloth as well, in conjunction with trentonlf's vote (intruders working together?) and the fact that he makes claims of loyalty right away followed by incendiary statements and harder accusations of yogsloth makes him extremely suspicious.
Yay!

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drealmer7: - vitek also jumps on the yogsloth wagon, seeming to want to cause a fast-lynching, which is very disconcerting and, seems to be causing some issues otherwise among us, again, another seeming extremely suspicious, to me.
*high five*

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drealmer7: Thoughts?
Vote. It seems either Vitek or myself would be the logical choice.
Posted October 07, 2015
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drealmer7: Thoughts?
After reading that, the thought occurs to vote everyone, including myself. I don't think there's a "launch everyone out the airlock" option to this game, though.

The problem with a no-lynch is that the numbers need to be pared down. Figuring there are 4 scum and 12 town if it goes by the same ratio as the introductory game explanation. That's too many people, too easy for enemy players to hide in the crowd. It'd be better to analyze as much as possible, vote, possibly be wrong, maybe get lucky, then go from there. A no-lynch just lets enemy players get a free kill without even the possibility of being taken out in return.
Posted October 07, 2015
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trentonlf: There's two sides to every coin, but you are only looking at one side.
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drealmer7: I'm open to seeing all sides, even the tiny edges. If you have any information, share it, that is why I ask "thoughts?" If all you have are premature accusations and conjecture, try not to be so steadfast in your ways, simply listen to the possibilities and tell me what you think of the possibilities, that is all I am asking.

This makes more suspicious behavior from you, trentonlf. It seems you're trying to confuse the situation. I didn't say anything about yogsloth being crew as fact. The facts are that for some reason, yogsloth is getting jumped on prematurely with no reason. I read all of the log entrees, multiple times. Just because I don't have proof that yogsloth is not scum, does not make him scum. Let's not commit the age-old fallacy of "if the person floats they're a witch" or whatever nonsense. Trying to jump to conclusions and put the blame on someone without any evidence only paints yourself as possible intruder, along with the others I have listed (I've gone back and forth on you, you're simply drawing more suspicion by your irrationalities.) I'm not saying they are intruders, I'm saying I find it more possible that they are than others. Again, let's not make any hasty decisions and try and keep calm.
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JMich: We are not voting for a no-lynch on day 1. Feel free to ask if you want me to explain why, but it is a very bad idea.
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drealmer7: Again, speak for yourself only, please. It makes me extremely uncomfortable that you use the term "we." As if you have some authority over our group. If you care to share why you think it is a bad idea, I'd be open to hearing it, but all I see as of now is a bunch of pre-mature accusations and that someone may die that doesn't need to.
I am not trying to confuse anything. I was painting outback your theories of who is suspicious and why is based on yogs being town. Did you present any scenarios where yogs was scum and the votes on him are it suspicious? No you did not. The way you presented your argument was as if yogs was town and anyone who was voting him was suspicious for doing so.

As for a no lynch today it's a bad idea, we gain no information and will start day 2 in the same boat we are now.
Posted October 07, 2015
I keep flitting in to the thread, trying to keep up.

I see we've had our usual "Day 1 newbie no-lynch beatdown electric boogaloo" already. Good good, get it out of the way. Welcome to the league, drealmer! Get ready to enjoy a visit from the edit elves. For the record, as others have mentioned, no-lynching Day 1 with nothing else to go on really isn't accepted as a valid plan. You run too strong a risk of Day 2 being Day 1 less one Town player. Love the roleplay, by the way, F 'em if they can't take it. :)

For the moment I'm content to let things ride a bit as there has been some actual stuff happening. (i.e., not shitpickles and leprechauns)

Sorry this is so rushed before I dash to lunch.
Posted October 07, 2015
Ok, so far I think drealmer7 has space madness

@Kryspyn: you are bouncing all over the place, making people laugh, etc, which makes me look at you as possible scum. And your mention of SNK has me leaning that way as well. Again, why would someone need SNK on a space station?

@Trentonlf: as soon as I mentioned you may be acting the goof to throw us off you being scum, you stopped. Reason why?

@mchack: why should I believe you that since your PM had nothing to do with what was in the intro, then there is nothing to be gotten from it? How do I know I cant trust you?


I do not want to jump on the yogsloth train, but I also do not want a no-lynch.

Hmm, actually, Trentonlf and Kryspyn were the first to vote yogsloth. interesting. Maybe both are scum, found the first townie that messed up by saying something in PM, and made him the the target?
Posted October 07, 2015
I hate typing on my phone, so many typos >.<

1. "I was painting outback" should be "I was pointing out"
2. "the votes on him or it suspicious" should be "the votes on him are not suspicious"
3. "the same boat we are now" should be "the same position we are in now"
Posted October 07, 2015
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Crewdroog: @Kryspyn: you are bouncing all over the place, making people laugh, etc, which makes me look at you as possible scum. And your mention of SNK has me leaning that way as well. Again, why would someone need SNK on a space station?
Yay!

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Crewdroog: Hmm, actually, Trentonlf and Kryspyn were the first to vote yogsloth. interesting. Maybe both are scum, found the first townie that messed up by saying something in PM, and made him the the target?
Vote. It seems like trentonlf or myself would be the logical choice.
Posted October 07, 2015
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Crewdroog: Ok, so far I think drealmer7 has space madness

@Kryspyn: you are bouncing all over the place, making people laugh, etc, which makes me look at you as possible scum. And your mention of SNK has me leaning that way as well. Again, why would someone need SNK on a space station?

@Trentonlf: as soon as I mentioned you may be acting the goof to throw us off you being scum, you stopped. Reason why?

@mchack: why should I believe you that since your PM had nothing to do with what was in the intro, then there is nothing to be gotten from it? How do I know I cant trust you?

I do not want to jump on the yogsloth train, but I also do not want a no-lynch.

Hmm, actually, Trentonlf and Kryspyn were the first to vote yogsloth. interesting. Maybe both are scum, found the first townie that messed up by saying something in PM, and made him the the target?
I have not stopped anything, still posting as I have from the start. Maybe I need to eat more hot dogs....

As for yogs, ask him how many ones I've given him grief over discussing PM or role information. I have also removed my vote from yogs as my reasoning for the vote is a moot point now.

@Krypsyn you make me laugh how you enjoy pushing people's buttons LOL
Posted October 07, 2015
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trentonlf: Did you present any scenarios where yogs was scum and the votes on him are it suspicious? No you did not. The way you presented your argument was as if yogs was town and anyone who was voting him was suspicious for doing so.

As for a no lynch today it's a bad idea, we gain no information and will start day 2 in the same boat we are now.
Again, very suspicious. It definitely seems like you're trying to confuse the situation, which suggests to me you are an intruder! You don't find the premature assault on yogsloth to be suspicious? That's what I'm calling into question. You instead find me calling into question that behavior as unreasonable somehow? Again, suspicious. And, again, just because we don't have proof he is part of the crew, doesn't mean he's not, it seems quite clear what you're doing here. BEWARE, everyone, there are intruders among us, I'm sure at this point.

It seems many of you want to eliminate someone more based on the fear of "if we don't!", and that is the intruders getting what they want already. Don't buy into it! I'm not saying I'm going to vote no lynch, actually that is quite unlikely, as I'm very much leaning towards:

Vote Vitek

And I recommend we all might want to go ahead vote the same way to make sure the intruders aren't able to form a gang-bang on an innocent crewmember and dispose of them on the first day AND get someone tonight. I'm quite confident that vitek is an intruder at this point. Shall we call it to a vote and get it taken care of?

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Crewdroog: Ok, so far I think drealmer7 has space madness
Again, sorry for that behavior. I'm okay, really. Please, don't hold it against me, the new station, strange and new hours, new people, and then a crisis on top of it all, I just was stressed a little. I've got it under control, please don't worry.

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Crewdroog: Hmm, actually, Trentonlf and Kryspyn were the first to vote yogsloth. interesting. Maybe both are scum, found the first townie that messed up by saying something in PM, and made him the the target?
Agreed, very suspicious. See my previous list for level of suspicion I've determined. What do you think about vitek? It seems they are being pretty blatantly intruder-ish, where trentonlf and Kryspyn seem a bit more uncertain. Would you vote vitek if I asked you to? How about you, HSL? Others? Who do we think is most likely? Doesn't it seem yogsloth is getting an unfair amount of irrational accusations in his direction?
Posted October 07, 2015
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drealmer7: I'm simply trying to go about our situation logically and not have any unnecessary deaths.
I do not RP in mafia games. Biggest problem with that is that our characters should have information we (the players) do not possess, like physical appearance, which may be significant.
Posted October 07, 2015
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Crewdroog: Ok, so far I think drealmer7 has space madness

@Kryspyn: you are bouncing all over the place, making people laugh, etc, which makes me look at you as possible scum. And your mention of SNK has me leaning that way as well. Again, why would someone need SNK on a space station?

@Trentonlf: as soon as I mentioned you may be acting the goof to throw us off you being scum, you stopped. Reason why?

@mchack: why should I believe you that since your PM had nothing to do with what was in the intro, then there is nothing to be gotten from it? How do I know I cant trust you?

I do not want to jump on the yogsloth train, but I also do not want a no-lynch.

Hmm, actually, Trentonlf and Kryspyn were the first to vote yogsloth. interesting. Maybe both are scum, found the first townie that messed up by saying something in PM, and made him the the target?
A question - are you by chance concealing some kind of sharp object under the bunny ear hat?
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