Any comment on anything, that is or was recently going on? Scumpicks?


„that I think it’s strange, that you disappear for long periods of time.“
Those were your words, not mine.
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And you still haven’t answered my question. Where did I say or imply that?

„Not once will you see anyone saying things like, „"Where is Catventurer? It's been five minutes since her last post. Where is she? Doesn't she know that she's not allowed to leave the thread for any reason? We don't care that she's been sick or that she has a special needs cat because real life doesn't matter to us.“
Neither did I. It’s all in your head, if you aren’t scum and trying to apply some kind of psychological warfare here.

So me moving my vote from Pooka to you is gonna „spiral you into despair“? And here I thought, you played a few mafia games already. That’s kind of what happens all the time. It basically is forum mafia. But of course, that’s only meant to „showcase“, that I’m targetting you personally. Of course that could be town beeing sick IRL, but I think it’s deliberate. I know, I know. I’m still trying to „spiral you into despair“. How dare I address you?

What only viable option? You voluntarily removed your vote on me. Noone made you do it (unless you count trents friendly advice). Just put it back. No need for more drama. Or are you worried, when I flip town, you might really start to look bad?


So, pointing out someone throwing shade now is throwing shade themselves… Fascinating.


That is a possibility too. WIFOM can be found in all shapes and forms.


I would like to see more input from you on state of affairs too. E.g. what do you think of Pooka this game?


And from whom am I trying to distract? And why do I need to?

It's a cynical scum post IMO, yes, but even without her posting it - I ain't electing someone unless I'm 100% sure it's Town, and even then...

If we pick a Town pope, which is... 5 to 3... would be... 60% success rate if we just pick randomly, yes, sure, we might end up finding the scum players, if you somehow get the majority to agree and there's only one player left and that player isn't some paranoid Catholic (rightfully or unrightfully so).

So basically scum can take advantage of that in such a way that a Catholic would be the last one abstaining from electing a Pope, thus convincing us to investigate this Catholic and bring them closer to a win. It is not impossible to fail an unanimous vote, after all.

But, if we're unlucky enough to hit the already dangerously high 40% Reformer rate and all Catholics elect the chosen one? Oh well, the reformers can just quick-elect them, boom, game over. It's easier than you may think, seeing as all of us aren't as committed as we ought to be. Also do remember that if the elected pope is a Reformer, chances are high they are self-electing, so only two Reformer quick-elections are necessary.

Now, trent has not given me any indication that he is one of those accursed reformers, but, I have to be really cautious about the trust he garnered that quickly and how almost everyone is preaching his name. It could cost us the game. So I'm not handing Trent the popedom that easily. I understand the desire for a quick and decisive victory and to get the game over with, but I also want to actually win the game and, you know, it's gambits like these that usually end up backfiring.

I never said that I disappear for long periods except to do things like go to bed and sleep. However since sleep is apparently not allowed anymore. It isn't just Flocke as even joppo commented on my lack of activity and overall commitment, I am only going to vote for myself and urge everyone else to do the same.

Didn't I say that I'm confident that I'm confident that scum is hiding among people with low activity. If my activity has been an issue for all of you all this time, you should all be voting me out for that alone..

VOTE Catventurer

Besides my apparent lack of commitment and not being active enough, I have been very much downplaying just how sick I am. Since the start of the year, I have been...
* alternating between fever and low body temp (between 95 and 96)
* vomiting multiple times a day
* diarrhea
* severe abdominal pain
* sore throat
^ chills
* really really tied like all the time.

Yesterday I developed a bloody nose. I think it's unrelated and just due to the air being super dry, but it's only adding to my misery. Now since I am on my way out, I'm going to be on bed rest until further notice. Feel free to debate among yourselves as to if I'm actually sick or not.


Okay, it's 4am here. Only awake because I was woken up by the smell of urine. Not in the room - I already checked. It's coming in from outside. There's strays that hang around outside. One of which is an unneutered male that we're trying to catch to get fixed. Going back to bed once the air purifier makes the room not sticky.

Catventurer, please.

I know nothing I could say could accurately describe the pain you're going through, and I'm sorry you have to deal with everything on top of the California smoke. But don't let anyone commenting about your activity let you down, in-game or IRL.

You've made 65 posts, in comparison to my 25, or Joppo's stellar 10, or Flocke's 13 combined with Scene's 9. The game has 364 posts including this post, yours, and anything before it. I don't need to do maths to tell you that a seventh of the thread is your content.

I’m so sorry you’re this sick and I hope whatever is causing your issues can be resolved soon because it sounds absolutely miserable. **HUGS** Don’t let this bring you down so much that you give up though, self voting is so bad. I really believe you’re Town, please don’t hand scum the game. If you’re lynched and flip Town like I believe you will, what info do we garner from your wagon? Anyone would be justified voting you if you give up. If you’re scum then I guess I’m a fool and should be thanking you for giving up, but I can’t see that being the case.


I’m traveling today for work so will not be on except for mobile until this evening. Someone find and kick yog’s awake, it’s not like him to be so absent from a game, I hope he’s ok.

This game is making me sad :-(

I missed this.
Your scenario is banking on trent being town. Trent is a very good (scum) player. The game I keep thinking back on, he won the game for scum, because he was townread by pretty much everyone. Yeah, I know, you still don’t see how that’s a problem.

Ooooooh, I could have upped my score a lot by making every reply a separate post. Silly me.


Ah, to hell with it. I’m gonna go read a book.

But since there are no verified town PRs that's impossible in this game. What then?

Winning the game is being fun and all, but not at the cost of enjoyment. I thinking sometimes it's better to just enjoy it, even if it means playing silly. Of course I knowing some players don't agree but that's what makes this more fun!

Sorry I've been totally gone for days.

tbh I'm finding this game pretty directionless. It's an interesting concept, and the flavor is top notch, it's just almost impossible to find a path to victory.

As several people have pointed out, it doesn't actually seem possible for Town to win. Mafia will never vote for a Town for pope, period, so that entire mechanic is void.

and to be fair, I'd point that out as either alignment myself

The only way to win as Town is conventionally yeeting out all the scums, but with no powers and no nightkills, we're just in an information void

And my skills at finding the scums... just don't seem to work very well anymore. The stuff that works on MU doesn't really work here, and I just can't get invested enough to try and figure this out with the total dearth of feedback

anyway

Vote trent

There is zero possibility a whole big group of townies just spontaneously all decided to elect trent as pope. This one is a slam dunk.

I actually did play a game like this years ago where mafia had to maneuver one of their own to be the Day vote, and it was an impossible disaster. "Reverse mafia" was the name of the experiment. This is what it looked like. Just a whole bunch of people voting for no real reason, and it was like... yep, here are the scums lol.

So yeah.

Trent is a baddie, 100%.

I am very sorry to read that you are so sick! What a bad start to the year. Perhaps you should indeed take a break, concentrate on getting well again and maybe even go to a hospital?

But as a side note: it is good that the degrees you wrote of are in °F not in °C! ;-)


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On to the Elections and Votes:

ELECTION:
Trent North 4 - mchack 269, cat 306, bucktooth 316 and self
mchack East 1 - Flocke 336
all others are self-electing.

INVESTIGATION:
mchack 1 - joppo 333
trent 1 - yogs 369
Flocke 2 - pooka 302, mchack 326
joppo 1 - trent 309
Cat 3 - bucktooth 285, Flocke 336, Cat 363


Everyone is voting and Cat is in the lead at I-2,
Deadline is Monday Evening.

I managed to keep breakfast and lunch down, so here I am.
I also didn't walk into any walls today, so that is good.

I'm convinced that scum voting for three different people.
They specifically want a no-lynch, so they get to decide who is eliminated.
I really don't have the energy to do individual replies to anyone.



I am 100% convinced that Trent is town. However the explanation for why is not short, and I don't have the energy to go into any long explanations... plus I want to finish writing this.

Town = Trent

You'll notice that Flocke (formerly Scene) has been specifically targeting me and acting like it's entirely unreasonable for me to be offline for any reason plus my thread participation has been always lacking. (And by the way, Flocke is offline again.) I think that I was picked because I indicated that I'm sick and the goal is to push me past my breaking point so that I'll prioritize my health and just refuse to participate.... so that even if I'm not actually voted out, I'm effectively eliminated through non-participation.

I also noticed that after I voted for myself the second time that Flocke started making comments about Trent. As if scum was over there thinking that they got rid of me for good, so decided to turn their attention on getting rid of Trent. Why are they so afraid of Trent?

Scum = Flocke
Town = Trent

Also I noticed that before being substituted with Flocke, Scene was in the process of starting something with Pooka on Day 1. One thing I've observed about Scene is that once he's formed an opinion about someone, he's going to die on that hill about them. He doesn't strike me as someone who is devious enough to go after a scum teammate on Day 1. It would also look super suspicious if he backed off at any point. For this reason, I'm inclined to believe that Flocke (formerly Scene) being scum also means that Pooka is town.

Scum = Flocke
Town = Trent, Pooka

Joppo looks like he's participating when he posts, but I feel like he really doesn't say anything of any real substance that hasn't already been been said by someone else. It's like he's picking his battles carefully and trying to not take any risks. More accurately, he looks a lot like I do when I am scum.... Except that I tend to look more town than the town.

Scum = Flocke, Joppo
Town = Trent, Pooka

Mchack started to actually participate after I gave him the frustration vote. I think he's actually trying to solve things for reals, so I think he's town.

Scum = Flocke, Joppo
Town = Trent, Pooka, Mchack

Bucktooth has been voting against me from Day 1. I think he just has a serious case of tunnel vision. Did I sneeze on him or something?

Scum = Flocke, Joppo
Town = Trent, Pooka, Mchack, Bucktooth

That leaves Yog. This guy has been odd. On Day 1, he acts like he wants to be my BFF. On Day 2, he's acting like one of my cats peed in his coffee. I've been over here wondering who would be the person who tries to make a serious move against Trent and not just makes micoaggression jabs. It turns out that person is Yog. He has to know that there's zero chance of Trent getting voted out today. I think that it's just a pretense to not be voting with his teammates with the goal being that town votes all over the place, and scum team gets to use its abjudicator to decide who is eliminated. Yes, I am saying that Yog is both death robot from the future and scum. I'm very disappointed in Yog.


Scum = Flocke, Joppo, Yog
Town = Trent, Pooka, Mchack, Bucktooth
Confirmed Town = Micro, Farky




Now if you'll excuse me, I really do need to go use the bathroom and will want to go lay down after.

Nope.

Again, there is zero way scum are going to push to elect a townie pope.

There are too many people pushing to elect trent, too easily, with too much certainty.

One of them is you. I don't like your reads. I don't like this one in particular. Hence, losing my love thing. That's not a "microagression", that's a solid (and I think pretty level-headed) look at the game state.

And plus, I've played with trent a ton. A TON.

Him being this passive is definitely well within his scum meta.

He should be all over my ass like a toilet seat cover and he's just floating on by.

I think I'm good here.

Wow. You seriously think if I was scum my big plan would be to get me elected to win? There's no way in hell I would ever consider something like that because I know full well it would never work, it would be a fools gambit. Why are people trying to elect me? I have no idea, ask them for clarification. I can't seriously believe you think I would try something like that.

I'm sitting here trying to fathom a reason you would do this as scum, and I don't know what your play is here because if you somehow manage to convince people this is legit and get me lynched, you'll be the next on the chopping block. That does not give scum a win, scum still need two more lynches of Townies to win not just one. Are you planning on me being the lynch tomorrow? You don't play "protect my teammate" as scum, you play to similar to me to do that. You are confusing the crap out of me with this play here.

I've tried several times to get you to open up this game to get a feel for you because you are always hard for me to read, you've ignored every question I have asked you except when I asked you something not game related (the metal band question), otherwise crickets.

I've had you as neutral because you've been so absent, and you are usually more invested as scum, but I can only think you're changing things up because of the format and lack of activity from most people. If you're Town doing this then I sure hope it doesn't cost us the game.

Vote yogsloth

I would buy Yogs as scum all day, their first seemed like they were either disinterested in the game or trying really hard to post without adding a ton of substance to avoid being scrutinized(and before anyone says anything, yes I realize that could describe me at this point as well)

Flock and Joppo I would have to re-read, but it is clear flock is tunneling on you. Also not that you need to hear it, but the claims of your lack of participation are unfounded. No matter how paranoid I get about you being a sly scum I would never argue the amount of effort you have put in the game so far.

unvote cat

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