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Posted November 16, 2016
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phaolo: Those Basques seem quite sexy XD
Yeah, thinks must have gotten better on the half year I've been gone. Can't wait to get back home for Christmas.

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Goodaltgamer: (...)
a. President YET, so no difference to all muslims to be killed.
Does his life's value get a sudden increase the moment he gets officially declared president? I get what you were saying, and I agree, but I don't particularly see the point to clearly point the difference between the elected president to be and the already official president. Importance wise, it's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?
Posted November 16, 2016
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Ian: We may not constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but we sure as hell can help sell more copies. I was buying multiple copies of games for regular giveaways, which you have lost for now, because you have ignored the forum for years. My impression from speaking to people outside of the community is that this forum is toxic, which is why they don't use gog. Oh and from my previous post, you have lost many sales from my very generous friends who have sadly left for good.

I will continue to support GOG, but now is the time for me to ask a direct question - are you actually going to do anything, or are you just going to place a few random posts ? (if it is the latter - please be advised, this comes across to me as totally patronising.)
You can't even imagine how glad i am for seeing posts like this.
Posted November 16, 2016
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Cyraxpt: I'm confused, you misquoted me right? Otherwise i'll have to ask you to be more explicit because i have no idea of what you're talking about.
Yes, sorry! and corrected :P
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Cyraxpt: ToxicTom post? I'm in favor of a paywall, people don't like restrictions but you can't expect order when there's people that abuse the freedom that was given but i'm guessing you want me to discuss his suggestion.

Well, first problem is that people that have been abusing that system already have a bunch of accounts to do so therefore the restriction for new accounts wouldn't work, second, the rep system is dumb, people can't voice their opinion otherwise they're downvoted, what's the point of having "freedom"? Besides, people are more bound to upvote their forum "sweethearts" than everyone equally (not counting giveaways, obviously) so what's the point?

About the names of who downvoted, that wouldn't go well with everyone because "mah privacy/freedom" not to say that you would see a bunch of accounts that you never heard of.

Just remove the rep system, if you're against something that was then VOICE about it instead of being a lazy coward hidding behind a - symbol.
Paywall is more than likely out of discussion, too much real technical stuff in the way. If you never had in place before, kind of no way to do it afterwards.

Getting rid or rep altogether? (Not talking about GA or similar( BUT as mm324 put it so nicely in post82, how about showing appreciation for people doing work for us?

Privacy? It is the user who decided to push the button, or? If he doesn't want to see his name, don't use downvote. So you are a bit contradicting yourself about (unless I miss something): freedom.

hm, just thought about the upvoting: maybe making the same? making names public?

Just brainstorming ;)
Posted November 16, 2016
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fables22: Again, good point, and I'm glad you guys understand this. It would be foolish of me to say that we are now making the forum our priority, because everyone knows that's not and never will be the case. But I think making resources available to at least have someone (sorry you're stuck with me! :)) try and re-ignite the discussion between GOG and the community is a good step forward by GOG. To put this bluntly, if they really did not care, I wouldn't be here either. So all we can do now is try and make the most of it.

So, selling games is always the priority. The community doesn't constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but it does sit well with what the ethics behind GOG is.
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Ian: We may not constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but we sure as hell can help sell more copies. I was buying multiple copies of games for regular giveaways, which you have lost for now, because you have ignored the forum for years. My impression from speaking to people outside of the community is that this forum is toxic, which is why they don't use gog. Oh and from my previous post, you have lost many sales from my very generous friends who have sadly left for good.

I will continue to support GOG, but now is the time for me to ask a direct question - are you actually going to do anything, or are you just going to place a few random posts ? (if it is the latter - please be advised, this comes across to me as totally patronising.)
I'm doing something as we speak, but as I said previously, it will take a while before changes can be implemented and we can see whether we're getting anywhere... I know that sounds like the usual chat you seem to get, and I'm sorry I don't have anything better for you as of yet, but please hang in there!
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: Sexual orientation for me still includes Gender identity. I do see the point for kids!, but min. age here is +13 which do have a sexual orientation & GI already. And to, how to say it, participate in your orientation you would also need to know your GI, or? Hence why I said/asked is it not included. ;) (sorry shortened it)
That's not how the xor function works! CS101, srsly. The specific category for sexual orientation is indeed dependent on gender identity, but those are different classes that should each be protected. Leaving out sexual orientation would allow for "fag", leaving out gender identity would allow for "go back to the kitchen, cunt".

(Also, some adults aren't interested in sex and thus don't have a sexual orientation.)
Posted November 16, 2016
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Ian: We may not constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but we sure as hell can help sell more copies. I was buying multiple copies of games for regular giveaways, which you have lost for now, because you have ignored the forum for years. My impression from speaking to people outside of the community is that this forum is toxic, which is why they don't use gog. Oh and from my previous post, you have lost many sales from my very generous friends who have sadly left for good.

I will continue to support GOG, but now is the time for me to ask a direct question - are you actually going to do anything, or are you just going to place a few random posts ? (if it is the latter - please be advised, this comes across to me as totally patronising.)
Ian,
I did provide a link to the quest for the missing blue and we already gave him a hard time there ;)
He did state that he wanted to get a better feeling and seeing more off our opinion/wishes and similar. Hence why I started this thread so that we can discuss things ;)

For the link check post1, the link under the his name
Posted November 16, 2016
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fables22: Again, good point, and I'm glad you guys understand this. It would be foolish of me to say that we are now making the forum our priority, because everyone knows that's not and never will be the case. But I think making resources available to at least have someone (sorry you're stuck with me! :)) try and re-ignite the discussion between GOG and the community is a good step forward by GOG. To put this bluntly, if they really did not care, I wouldn't be here either. So all we can do now is try and make the most of it.

So, selling games is always the priority. The community doesn't constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but it does sit well with what the ethics behind GOG is.
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Ian: We may not constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but we sure as hell can help sell more copies. I was buying multiple copies of games for regular giveaways, which you have lost for now, because you have ignored the forum for years. My impression from speaking to people outside of the community is that this forum is toxic, which is why they don't use gog. Oh and from my previous post, you have lost many sales from my very generous friends who have sadly left for good.

I will continue to support GOG, but now is the time for me to ask a direct question - are you actually going to do anything, or are you just going to place a few random posts ? (if it is the latter - please be advised, this comes across to me as totally patronising.)
Yeah this.
And before anyone screams "hypocrite", I am the first to admit I'm a prick and a troll but I will gladly reign myself in and shut the hell up when it is asked of me in order to get this place back to where it was and help out the company as a whole.
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: a. President YET, so no difference to all muslims to be killed.
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P1na: Does his life's value get a sudden increase the moment he gets officially declared president? I get what you were saying, and I agree, but I don't particularly see the point to clearly point the difference between the elected president to be and the already official president. Importance wise, it's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?
No, but AFTER he gets declared President, it is a crime to threaten the President in the US. Hence my slight variation on there ;)
For anyone OUTSIDE the US no difference ;)
Still just one person on earth
Posted November 16, 2016
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tinyE: Yeah this.
And before anyone screams "hypocrite", I am the first to admit I'm a prick and a troll but I will gladly reign myself in and shut the hell up when it is asked of me in order to get this place back to where it was and help out the company as a whole.
Like your promise before if i changed avatar? Yeah, i vouch for you. You keep your promise the *second time* you utter it and then afterwards only one (of the many someone elses) keeps up the good work of my freshly opened, relative-to-games-threads destruction. You 're good to go, approved! You are reliable and cooperative. It's a shame the lot of someone elses don't display the same traits as you.

Hmm, to be honest, you are tempting me, though. If my game related threads weren't to be derailed or broken anymore, i would consider being clad in the same chains of slavery you so much like/desire/adore and keep constantly asking for to tie us all together in here, since you cannot live without them, be it in the internet or otherwise.
Post edited November 16, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: No, but AFTER he gets declared President, it is a crime to threaten the President in the US. Hence my slight variation on there ;)
For anyone OUTSIDE the US no difference ;)
Still just one person on earth
Ah, legal speak. Now it makes sense. Or more like, now it's expected for it to not make sense.
Posted November 16, 2016
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Starmaker: That's not how the xor function works! CS101, srsly. The specific category for sexual orientation is indeed dependent on gender identity, but those are different classes that should each be protected. Leaving out sexual orientation would allow for "fag", leaving out gender identity would allow for "go back to the kitchen, cunt".

(Also, some adults aren't interested in sex and thus don't have a sexual orientation.)
hm....still doesn't really clear it up for me.
The second example you gave is a at least harassment or even a slur.
What has it got to do with GI?
Not saying that I don't want to understand or similar, but I am just trying to keep those definitions as short as possible, that we need to read afterwards like 50 pages ;)
And having redundant things in there ......
As I said, might be me.
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P1na: Ah, legal speak. Now it makes sense. Or more like, now it's expected for it to not make sense.
Makes a difference only if you live in the US ;)
Post edited November 16, 2016 by Goodaltgamer
Posted November 16, 2016
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fables22: I'm doing something as we speak, but as I said previously, it will take a while before changes can be implemented and we can see whether we're getting anywhere... I know that sounds like the usual chat you seem to get, and I'm sorry I don't have anything better for you as of yet, but please hang in there!
Thanks for the reply :)

I am sorry for the tone of my question, my frustration of previous years got the better of me.
Posted November 16, 2016
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fables22: Again, good point, and I'm glad you guys understand this. It would be foolish of me to say that we are now making the forum our priority, because everyone knows that's not and never will be the case. But I think making resources available to at least have someone (sorry you're stuck with me! :)) try and re-ignite the discussion between GOG and the community is a good step forward by GOG. To put this bluntly, if they really did not care, I wouldn't be here either. So all we can do now is try and make the most of it.

So, selling games is always the priority. The community doesn't constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but it does sit well with what the ethics behind GOG is.
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Ian: We may not constitute a necessary part of the selling aspect, but we sure as hell can help sell more copies. I was buying multiple copies of games for regular giveaways, which you have lost for now, because you have ignored the forum for years. My impression from speaking to people outside of the community is that this forum is toxic, which is why they don't use gog. Oh and from my previous post, you have lost many sales from my very generous friends who have sadly left for good.

I will continue to support GOG, but now is the time for me to ask a direct question - are you actually going to do anything, or are you just going to place a few random posts ? (if it is the latter - please be advised, this comes across to me as totally patronising.)
This!

A nice (as in respectful and not rude) and free (as in free speech) community does boost sales indeed.
That's why people around here don't want a "goody two shoes"-mod that is invisibly keeping people "in line" but don't want total neglect either.

People like tinyE may be obnoxious to some at times and he is indeed crossing the line now and then (the assassination request being the most recent and extreme example), but although I have a great talent for rubbing most people the wrong way, for some reason I never had a problem with him, so I guess a friendly word from a blue one when some crossing of lines happened is all the moderation that is needed most of the time. Just don't make one of the overly authorative people here a mod, a liberal attitude goes hand in hand with a DRM free shop and its customer base.
The best mod around here would probably have been Mrkgnao but this one got sick of the community neglect after having done GOG's job on the technical side (Magog etc...) for a very long time with a lot of effort.
Now that fables22 is at it, lets just hope he/she doesn't vanish into thin air like the many before when it comes to actually doing something.
Handling social constructs is difficult enough, handling a more or less social construct with people from often clashing cultures and backgrounds needs some care and self-restraint.
Good luck!
Post edited November 16, 2016 by Klumpen0815
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: Getting rid or rep altogether? (Not talking about GA or similar( BUT as mm324 put it so nicely in post82, how about showing appreciation for people doing work for us?
"Thank you"

See, it wasn't needed a "+" icon for me to appreciate others.
Privacy? It is the user who decided to push the button, or? If he doesn't want to see his name, don't use downvote. So you are a bit contradicting yourself about (unless I miss something): freedom.
I was just pointing out what would be the arguments against it. Btw, if there already is some grudges on this forum wouldn't that make things worse?
Posted November 16, 2016
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Goodaltgamer: Getting rid or rep altogether? (Not talking about GA or similar( BUT as mm324 put it so nicely in post82, how about showing appreciation for people doing work for us?
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Cyraxpt: "Thank you"

See, it wasn't needed a "+" icon for me to appreciate others.
I appreciate what your saying about saying "Thank you" and on occasion I do that also. But I think that it would get annoying if I were to do that every time someone posted a fix for a helpfull script, a changelog for a game, or one of the many things that numerous members do for the benefit of the rest of us.
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