Posted July 05, 2016

Bookwyrm627
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark

docbear1975
game collector
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States

Bookwyrm627
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Fantasysci5
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From United States
Posted July 05, 2016
Unvote No Lynch, Vote flubbucket
Because of reasons.
Because of reasons.

Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark

docbear1975
game collector
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted July 05, 2016


Do you have any specific reasons?
Post edited July 05, 2016 by docbear1975

dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
Posted July 05, 2016


docbear1975
game collector
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted July 05, 2016
Dang it! I forgot about the whole posting within 10 minutes thing and that my two posts to bookwrym and fantasysci5. Completely unintentional

Fantasysci5
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From United States
Posted July 05, 2016
It's nothing personal against flubbucket, I agreed with some things they said. But the multiple voting and unvoting, and then one post being bolded weirdly just made me curious.

dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
Posted July 05, 2016

JK, as far as I saw nothing changed and the 2 posts only merged, so I think you'll get a free pass this time. Try not to do it again, though. I won't be able to keep Lift's thirst for blood constrained next time.

Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted July 05, 2016


JK, as far as I saw nothing changed and the 2 posts only merged, so I think you'll get a free pass this time. Try not to do it again, though. I won't be able to keep Lift's thirst for blood constrained next time.

JMich
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Registered: Apr 2011
From Greece

dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
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From Bulgaria

flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
Posted July 06, 2016
I can appreciate your posting the "intent" of the cult leader surviving Day One, it is not fact. Plausible but still not proven. I also have more questions than answers.
Bookwyrm627: So the plausible alternative is that the cult already consists of 25% of the starting players (roughly normal starting numbers for a mafia team, right?), and they start with an ability that is better than the standard mafia NK. And if the CL is lynched D1, the deprogrammer suddenly becomes vanilla.
JMich: I've no idea how the cult recruiting will work. Is it a 100% chance of recruiting or a smaller chance?
As for normal mafia numbers, the normal mafia isn't in danger of being killed at night, or at least it's been quite a while since we had an unlimited vigilante in our games.
So yes, depending on balancing, I could see a 3 person cult team as a starting point, since a 2 person team would make it too weak if the CL got lynched on D1. And I do find that much more plausible than the CL being unkillable during D1. A three person cult team is unlikely.
9 and 3 Day One; with No Lynch or townie lynch, Day Two would start with 8 and 4....that's a bit over powered don't you think??
10 and 2 Day One; with No Lynch or townie lynch, Day Two would start with 9 and 3.....still not quite a balanced start for town.
However what if the cult leader was to hit the deprogrammer on Night One?? If the game starts with only the cult leader that really wouldn't make much sense.....well it would at least be weird.


As for normal mafia numbers, the normal mafia isn't in danger of being killed at night, or at least it's been quite a while since we had an unlimited vigilante in our games.
So yes, depending on balancing, I could see a 3 person cult team as a starting point, since a 2 person team would make it too weak if the CL got lynched on D1. And I do find that much more plausible than the CL being unkillable during D1.
9 and 3 Day One; with No Lynch or townie lynch, Day Two would start with 8 and 4....that's a bit over powered don't you think??
10 and 2 Day One; with No Lynch or townie lynch, Day Two would start with 9 and 3.....still not quite a balanced start for town.
However what if the cult leader was to hit the deprogrammer on Night One?? If the game starts with only the cult leader that really wouldn't make much sense.....well it would at least be weird.