Posted May 26, 2021
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Lone_Scout
Argy "the cook" - halfling
Registered: Aug 2014
From Spain
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Ganni1987
'My Rewards' is DRM
Registered: Sep 2011
From Malta
Posted May 26, 2021
I always hated them for not releasing the Linux version on GOG. Good riddance.
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted May 26, 2021
Once again, GOG's marketing has done a stellar job at advertising titles that this is one of those times where a game is leaving the store and I have to actually go look it up.
And this isn't some obscure title, For the King appears to have a generally large audience and a stellar reputation.
And this isn't some obscure title, For the King appears to have a generally large audience and a stellar reputation.
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted May 26, 2021
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Anyway another developer to blacklist for their disgraceful behavior.(...)
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Was it the drm? If so, you more or less showed it wasn't intentional.
Is it because they're leaving? If so lemme ask: should a dev(in general, not this one specifically) stick around if they're not making profit or losing money?
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General musing(this is not about the users replied to in this post): so many overly entitled gamers these days, it seems.
No, I don't mean those with reasonable complaints, but the ones who seem to think gaming companies should bend over backwards and/or bow down to the customer else they're uncaring/evil/etc.
Post edited May 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Alexim
Dark Lord of the Sith
Registered: Mar 2015
From Italy
Posted May 27, 2021
You're right, Iron Oak Games may have had to suffer a publisher decision, but they did nothing to communicate this decision, when a simple press release would have sufficed to at least explain their reasons.
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Alexim
Dark Lord of the Sith
Registered: Mar 2015
From Italy
Posted May 27, 2021
Because as I wrote above they left without even a statement, a message, to explain to their GOG customers the reasons for their decision. All this shows cowardice, if not total disregard for those who have purchased their products on this platform, that will remain forever with an incomplete product, and since they got their money, I have the absolute right to criticize these behaviors.
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
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Knowing this, I ask: do you think they should do things that might get them in legal hot water just to make customers feel a bit better?
(sidenote: I didn't say people can't or shouldn't criticize things[in fact I think due criticism should be levied when/where needed].....I just feel that people[in general, I mean] shouldn't throw blame around too readily...especially without checking all the facts/info behind something first)
Post edited May 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
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kai2
New User
Registered: Jun 2013
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
Does anyone know...
... do games often de-list from Steam?
I'm sure some do since EGS got into the game.
Yeah, this whole situation sucks. I've played the base game on PS4 and really wanted to purchase it here to play. Just a week ago I was asking around about the dlc release... and now the game's gone...
... do games often de-list from Steam?
I'm sure some do since EGS got into the game.
Yeah, this whole situation sucks. I've played the base game on PS4 and really wanted to purchase it here to play. Just a week ago I was asking around about the dlc release... and now the game's gone...
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UnashamedWeeb
+200 rep before negrep bots
Registered: Jun 2020
From Canada
Posted May 27, 2021
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... do games often de-list from Steam?
I'm sure some do since EGS got into the game.
Yeah, this whole situation sucks. I've played the base game on PS4 and really wanted to purchase it here to play. Just a week ago I was asking around about the dlc release... and now the game's gone...
n = 466 games delisted (including relistings)
Oldest = Nosgoth - Apr 8, 2016
Newest = Afterfall InSanity - May 26, 2021
Δt = 1874 days
λ = 0.249 games delisted / day OR 1 game delisted every 4 days
Correcting for permanent delistings (i.e., exclude relistings), then n = 435 and λ = 0.232 games delisted / day OR 1 game every 4.3 days for Steam.
Meanwhile, for GOG:
n = 80 games delisted (including relistings)
Oldest = Wallace & Gromit - May 31, 2016 (relisted)
Newest = Shadow Man - May 17, 2021
Δt = 1812 days
λ = 0.0442 games delisted / day OR 1 game delisted every 22.7 days
Correcting for permanent delistings (i.e., exclude relistings), then for GOG:
n = 56
Oldest = Grid (2008) - Feb 2, 2017
Δt = 1565 days
λ = 0.0358 games delisted / day OR 1 game permanently delisted every 28 days
For reference, Steam has 54,058+435 = 54,493 total games published to date. So their permanent delisting rate is 435 / 54,493 = 0.8%. GOG's is 3363+56 = 3419 total games published to date with a permanent delisting rate of 56/3419 = 1.64%. So games are slightly more than twice as likely to delist on GOG compared to Steam in the context of total game catalogue, but Steam has a permanent delisting rate 6.48x than GOG's (based on when these delistings started in 2016).
Missed a 0, now looks right.
Post edited May 27, 2021 by Canuck_Cat
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mrkgnao
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HCZVCTO
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
There wasn't any, AFAIK. One of their updates had a bug that made the game unplayable without galaxy. I reported it to GOG in March 2020 and in April 2020 it was fixed. That, I believe, is the reason for the DRM rumours.
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BlueMooner
Blue User
Registered: Jun 2012
From United States
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
low rated
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(the reviews I can get not being changed as one cannot do so, but one would figure some would change their marks for such reviews when they're proven wrong/etc)
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mrkgnao
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HCZVCTO
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
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(the reviews I can get not being changed as one cannot do so, but one would figure some would change their marks for such reviews when they're proven wrong/etc)
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
low rated
Because people are human and often let their emotions lead instead of their logic & facts.
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I'm near certain that one can remove/change a mark(will go check to verify 100%, though)
edit: was wrong...one can't remove/change such....gonna ask a staffer to pass that idea on to the proper dept later
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I'm near certain that one can remove/change a mark(will go check to verify 100%, though)
edit: was wrong...one can't remove/change such....gonna ask a staffer to pass that idea on to the proper dept later
Post edited May 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
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kohlrak
One Sooty Birb - Available on DLsite.com, not
Registered: Aug 2014
From United States
Posted May 27, 2021
low rated
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Rumor and supposition seem to be far too common online, with people claiming "knowledge" and "certainty" on subjects where all they know is what their cousin's boyfriend's grandmother's neighbor heard someone read in an article somewhere, maybe.
I have no interest in this game, but it I do find it... disappointing... that so many people seem to equate made-up whim with verified fact.