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Posted September 20, 2014
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amok: ToG do have static stat progression, so it fits. Receiver have none (that I could see). I do count static stat increase as character progression (your character grows stronger)
Ah, fair enough--you had mentioned choice just before that, which I took to exclude so static a system, I think.
Posted September 20, 2014
While I love classic roguelikes (Rogue, NetHack), and also games with roguelike elements (Dwarf Fortress, FTL), I haven't played any FP roguelike yet.
It seems that I'll have to buy Tower of Guns, as soon as it is fully supported by Wine. :)
Posted September 20, 2014
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Thaumaturge: On the other hand, Rogue itself had next to none of that as far as I recall: it had character levels, but they simply increased stats, with no input from the player.

That said, I feel that I should mention the term "Roguelite"; as I understand it, this covers games that use elements of Roguelikes, but don't go all the way. I believe that I've seen it applied to Rogue Legacy and Tower of Guns, for example.
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amok: ToG do have static stat progression, so it fits. Receiver have none (that I could see). I do count static stat increase as character progression (your character grows stronger)
But what ABOUT dungeon Hack though? You only want stuff currently available via legit DD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Hack
Post edited September 20, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
Posted September 20, 2014
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amok: ToG do have static stat progression, so it fits. Receiver have none (that I could see). I do count static stat increase as character progression (your character grows stronger)
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Fever_Discordia: But what ABOUT dungeon Hack though? You only want stuff currently available via legit DD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Hack
I never played Dungeon Hack, so I do not know much about it, so is it:

a) First person ?
b) Roguelike / roguelite ?
Posted September 20, 2014
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amok: I never played Dungeon Hack, so I do not know much about it, so is it:

a) First person ?
b) Roguelike / roguelite ?
I'd say yes to both. It's basically Eye of the Beholder minus the story and everything randomized (dungeon, monsters, loot, 'puzzles'), and if I'm not mistaken you only control one character (who can progress in levels and stats), not a whole party.
Post edited September 20, 2014 by Leroux
Posted September 20, 2014
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Leroux: if I'm not mistaken you only control one character
Yup, only one character.
Posted September 20, 2014
on the list Dungeon Hack goes then.
Posted September 20, 2014
Y'know, the early Elder Scrolls games must come pretty close to qualifying, I've not gotten to Daggerfall yet but I did a full playthrough of Arena and can tell you that, apart from the 17 main quest dungeons, everything in that game - side quests that the kings and queens give you, artifact retrieval quests even the town layout and what you can find when you wander around in the wilderness is completely random, and even in the 17 set dungeons the drops are random
Heh - the names of the taverns are generated from 2 lists, which sometimes works really well, giving you names like 'The Red Dragon' but some combinations are less great - I ended up visiting a pub called 'The King's Goblin'!
Oh and unlike the later Elder Scroll the view IS first person and not 3rd person too!
Post edited September 20, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
Posted September 20, 2014
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Fever_Discordia: Y'know, the early Elder Scrolls games must come pretty close to qualifying, I've not gotten to Daggerfall yet but I did a full playthrough of Arena and can tell you that, apart from the 17 main quest dungeons, everything in that game - side quests that the kings and queens give you, artifact retrieval quests even the town layout and what you can find when you wander around in the wilderness is completely random, and even in the 17 set dungeons the drops are random
Heh - the names of the taverns are generated from 2 lists, which sometimes works really well, giving you names like 'The Red Dragon' but some combinations are less great - I ended up visiting a pub called 'The King's Goblin'!
Oh and unlike the later Elder Scroll the view IS first person and not 3rd person too!
yeah, I have heard others calling Daggerfall and Arean FP Roguelikes also. I am a little bit on the fence, but I can see why.
Posted September 20, 2014
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Fever_Discordia: Y'know, the early Elder Scrolls games must come pretty close to qualifying, I've not gotten to Daggerfall yet but I did a full playthrough of Arena and can tell you that, apart from the 17 main quest dungeons, everything in that game - side quests that the kings and queens give you, artifact retrieval quests even the town layout and what you can find when you wander around in the wilderness is completely random, and even in the 17 set dungeons the drops are random
Heh - the names of the taverns are generated from 2 lists, which sometimes works really well, giving you names like 'The Red Dragon' but some combinations are less great - I ended up visiting a pub called 'The King's Goblin'!
Oh and unlike the later Elder Scroll the view IS first person and not 3rd person too!
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amok: yeah, I have heard others calling Daggerfall and Arena FP Roguelikes also. I am a little bit on the fence, but I can see why.
It has some roguelike elements; randomized loot and quests; but it really depends on what you consider a roguelike to be.
Posted September 20, 2014
This type of genre is the best! I wish there were more games like this.

Tower of Guns is a great game and it's on GOG!

I really hope GOG can get , [url=http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/eldritch]Eldritch, and Heavy Bullets!
Posted September 21, 2014
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amok: Eldritch
Ooh cool, I didn't know about this game. I luvs me some H.P. Lovecraft!
and it's on sale at the Humble Store for $4.99 right now (for 1 more day.)
I think i'll pick it up. Thanks for the heads up! :)
Posted September 21, 2014
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amok: Eldritch
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PhilD: Ooh cool, I didn't know about this game. I luvs me some H.P. Lovecraft!
and it's on sale at the Humble Store for $4.99 right now (for 1 more day.)
I think i'll pick it up. Thanks for the heads up! :)
Eldritch is a lot of fun! I think you'll like it!
Posted September 21, 2014
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IronArcturus: Eldritch is a lot of fun! I think you'll like it!
Eldritch would deserve about two times the amount content it actually got (not in terms of environments, in terms of enemies and items) - it's a lot of fun for a few playtroughs tho.
Posted September 21, 2014
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IronArcturus: Eldritch is a lot of fun! I think you'll like it!
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Fenixp: Eldritch would deserve about two times the amount content it actually got (not in terms of environments, in terms of enemies and items) - it's a lot of fun for a few playtroughs tho.
Yeah, I wish it had more enemies in it too. I wonder if they had to lower down that amount since everything is randomized.
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