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This is my favourite topic
Posted November 15, 2015
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kblazer883: (i.e.) The Perfect Consumer!
Now if they could only find the perfect Producer....
Posted November 15, 2015
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mobutu: If you're worried then why did you preordered it?
I guess you were emotional, not rational.
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Crewdroog: b/c i love the game and i've been wanting to play it for forever. besides, this is a freaking video game, not some huge life decision, it's perfectly ok to have emotion involved in ordering. b/c not that big of a deal in the scheme of things.
So your argument is:

I love the game
and have been waiting forever to play it,
therefore, it's perfectly ok to be emotional because it is not a big deal.

That seems like a counter-intuitive argument to make!
Posted November 15, 2015
I hope no one takes this personally: I'm so not psyched or even the slightest bit interested in Fallout 4. I think that it is in Boston is lame, stupid, non-creative blah, really makes it even less interesting than it could have maybe been if only different people were in charge of its making. So yeah, really what matters is that the franchise has never had the same quality (in writing, atmosphere, gameplay, immersion, characters, overall aspects) and depth, What also matters is the developers are all about mainstream Trash content that satisfies the least common denominator. But, ya know, that just IMO! To me "T-minus" stands for "Trash-minus" the rating I would probably give Fallout 4 if I were to ever play it.

You've got to understand my perspective first of all though. It's a matter of the change that went on in the franchise when it got taken over by different peoples/company. Fallout 3 and NV are void of all the essence that was in the original Fallouts (including Tactics, I must say, even though that is a different type of game, it still captures FALLOUT to me) whereas Fallout 3, NV, and I'm most sure Fallout 4 absolutely fail at presenting me with authentic Fallout experiences OR anything near the artistic quality of the originals. They are blasphemous soul-less shallow re-bastardizations of games that I love dearly, pieces of art that should have been left in the past or turned back over to Brian Fargo long before the existing Fallout 3 was ever conceived so he could continue on with them properly (please, I'd like to live in that alternate reality!) All that is the original Fallouts is lost in the newer renditions.

But, I'm ranting to the wrong crowd for the most part here, and don't mean to poop on your happy parade, really. I just think it's important for this perspective to be voiced, as, it may be something to be discovered about them for some people and they just haven't realized it yet, you know?

I understand that for some people that 3+NV+4 work fine for them and they don't need it to be as meaningful as the other Fallouts and can enjoy them regardless. The newer ones are okay story-driven RPG/FPSs with some attitude and a great basis for it's world coming from the original Fallout games that quality-wise, pass as sell-able/playable perhaps, but, spirit-wise, put me off, to put it mildly

Anyway, yeah, I don't mean to be a downer about the excitement though. I'm glad you're excited crewdroog! A first pre-order is exciting certainly! Did you get the CE with the pipboy thingiemagigee?

I'm not sure what my first pre-order was any more. It might have been Full Throttle. But it might have been BG2. I don't remember, and will think on it and perhaps it will come to me.

*rant off*

peace all!
Posted November 15, 2015
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HereForTheBeer: Until it's DRM-free, T-minus Forever.
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kblazer883: I was going to say T-minus 'til DRM free.

+1 to you
Going to be awhile then considering New Vegas is 5+ years and counting.
Posted November 15, 2015
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kblazer883: I was going to say T-minus 'til DRM free.

+1 to you
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synfresh: Going to be awhile then considering New Vegas is 5+ years and counting.
Eh, I have plenty of other games to keep me occupied until, as another poster hinted at, I am dead or it comes out DRM free (I'll go ahead and have my casket picked out in case it takes a little while).
Post edited November 15, 2015 by kblazer883
Posted November 15, 2015
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synfresh: Going to be awhile then considering New Vegas is 5+ years and counting.
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kblazer883: Eh, I have plenty of other games to keep me occupied until, as another poster hinted at, I am dead or it comes out DRM free (I'll go ahead and have my casket picked out in case it takes a little while).
You can preorder those on Costco too!
Posted November 15, 2015
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Crewdroog: well, I just found the Fat Man and a third set of power armor. All these things you can get at lvl one if you explore early on. I also have found a few mini nukes. I'm kinda upset by this. Oh, you also get a minigun early. I kinda would rather have to play a lot of game before getting OP weapons :( Not a fan of this. I mean come on, THREE sets of power armor??

I did find a cute bandana for dogmeat. :)

if you want to see where i got the fat man, see my twitch feed
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JDelekto: Someone told me that I could get that wonderful looking gun locked up back in Vault 111 by commanding the dog without having to be a very high level of lock picking. Is this true?
REALLY?!?!? I am just biting at the bit to get at thaat puppy. looks like it might be a freeze gun or something? I will totally try this out when I play later tonight :) thanks!
Posted November 15, 2015
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JDelekto: Someone told me that I could get that wonderful looking gun locked up back in Vault 111 by commanding the dog without having to be a very high level of lock picking. Is this true?
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Crewdroog: REALLY?!?!? I am just biting at the bit to get at thaat puppy. looks like it might be a freeze gun or something? I will totally try this out when I play later tonight :) thanks!
Well, I was watching a twitch stream when I asked, someone responded in private, they could have been just pulling my leg, but I am going back to the vault to try it.

Either the joke's on me or the dog can do it, we'll see.
Posted November 15, 2015
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Painted_Doll: Wtf is this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFBvunP4bps
lol

now i want to run around without a head
Posted November 15, 2015
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drealmer7: ...

*rant off*

peace all!
You realize, rant and peace in the same post are taken with a grain of salt. Hopefully when you find something you enjoy nobody rains on your parade, well, unless they end it with "rant off" and "peace all".
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Painted_Doll: Wtf is this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFBvunP4bps
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Crewdroog: lol

now i want to run around without a head
Most people have been for a while, well, metaphorically speaking. :)
Post edited November 15, 2015 by JDelekto
Posted November 15, 2015
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Crewdroog: b/c i love the game and i've been wanting to play it for forever. besides, this is a freaking video game, not some huge life decision, it's perfectly ok to have emotion involved in ordering. b/c not that big of a deal in the scheme of things.
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kblazer883: So your argument is:

I love the game
and have been waiting forever to play it,
therefore, it's perfectly ok to be emotional because it is not a big deal.

That seems like a counter-intuitive argument to make!
it's a fucking video game. it doesn't matter in the scheme of everything. yes,that was my argument, good job you can read. why do you care? i'm not spending your money.
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drealmer7: ...

*rant off*

peace all!
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JDelekto: You realize, rant and peace in the same post are taken with a grain of salt. Hopefully when you find something you enjoy nobody rains on your parade, well, unless they end it with "rant off" and "peace all".
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Crewdroog: lol

now i want to run around without a head
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JDelekto: Most people have been for a while, well, metaphorically speaking. :)
hahaha, very true :) myself included!
Post edited November 15, 2015 by Crewdroog
Posted November 15, 2015
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Painted_Doll: Wtf is this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFBvunP4bps
It's called "a bug". Maybe something related to this -
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/bug_in_witcher_3_hearts_of_stone?
Post edited November 15, 2015 by amok
Posted November 15, 2015
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Painted_Doll: Wtf is this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFBvunP4bps
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amok: It's called "a bug". Maybe something related to this -
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/bug_in_witcher_3_hearts_of_stone?
some say bugs, others say features, yet others say exploits. Was the headless horseman a bug in literature? Before you say it was the written word, I could say I saw the headless one with my own two eyes.
Posted November 16, 2015
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kblazer883: I was going to say T-minus 'til DRM free.

+1 to you
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synfresh: Going to be awhile then considering New Vegas is 5+ years and counting.
/Looks at backlog

/shrugs

I can wait. : )
Posted November 16, 2015
Welp, after around 12 hours in, I've made up my mind.

This is a GREAT Rage game. What it isn't, is a Fallout game. Seriously, everything about it reminds me of Rage, which is awesome, because I liked Rage, glitching/mega textures and all. This is that, painted up in nice looking Fallout colors, with a bunch of other functionalities that scratch my hoarder's itch. (I've spent waaaaay too much time hunting down things like telephones and desk fans for components.) >.>

The gameplay itself feels very fluid, like Rage did, and I'm pretty sure I recognized some of the animation patterns from that game in this one. It's bright. (Almost too bright in some cases. I had to shut off Godrays because it was starting to get annoying.) The gunplay feels a lot like Rage's, which means fairly slick and rewarding. They've taken a few pages out of Borderlands' book, by throwing in the occasional Legendary mutant/animal/creature/enemy, which are tough, spongier versions that give better loot.

The power armor play is pretty decent, but I sort of disliked how early they hand it over to you. (I always felt that nice set of T-45a/b was supposed to be more of an endgame reward for your badassery.) Aside from that, though, it's been fairly irrelevant in my questing thus far.

Game world is typical Bethesda. Very fun to explore and get lost in, then find things tucked out of the way that you don't expect. (Example: I stumbled into a subway station into some kind of multilevel all out fire fight between Institute Synths and raiders. That was pretty awesome.) It also seems that Bethesda has learned to stop leaving large portions of their worlds feeling empty, as there's all kinds of things I've found and I've only discovered a portion of the map.

So, let's talk some downsides. Whoever thought the dialogue wheel was a great idea needs a good old fashioned ass whippin'. Seriously. That thing is one of the most unintuitive and unimmersive additions ever, and hopefully enough people tell them to knock it off that they go back to actually writing some dialogue.

Performance is pretty jittery and I'm running between ultra and high. You won't notice stuttering or performance hits until you start hitting bigger cities, then it becomes a massive pain. Lexington was especially noticeable and was enough that I went back and adjusted some options down from ultra to high. There's also some occasional self-correcting glitches and on the bright side, I have yet to find any quest breaking bugs.

The iconic radio stations? Trash. I'll be honest, Diamond City Radio has some funny moments, but they recycled a LOT of the songs, which I felt was simply lazy. There are a few new songs thrown in, but you're gonna hear a majority of the same tracks from 3. (This may not matter much to most people.)

So, to sum it all up? I agree with the "great shooter, terrible Fallout game" crowd. It really isn't even a Fallout game. It feels like iD made a top notch shooter and Bethesda slapped some Fallout trappings on it and decided to call it 4.

...now I'm going to go play it some more. :P
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