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Kardwill: There's a difference between "Fallout 4 is shit" and "All Fallout 4 players are retarded", though. One is an opinionated but somewhat extreme view, the other is just crapping on other people.
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WBGhiro: Imho if you enjoy shit you have at least one major malfunction and I'd like not to be around you.
Err, I don't like FO4 either (my brother loves it, but it's not my stuff), but let me check the reasoning

"I don't like this game" = "People playing it are shit-eaters"

Ooookay. You're an idiot, and I'm sooooo out of this trainwreck of a thread. Bye.
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GreasyDogMeat: Not all religions are created equal.
Thanks for supporting the notion that religions are "created". And the extend...

Well Islam is evolutionary at a point where Christianity has been a few hundred years ago. Conquest with fire and sword propagated by the leaders (the foot folk for the most always prefers to live their lives in peace... but when "god" calls, some will answer...).
The only advantage the Christians has were technological superiority at the time (Gunpowder!).

Nowadays it's rather easy to repel the "wrong crusaders", because we are at an technological advantage, propelled not least by letting go of religious dogmas and embracing science instead.

And yes Christians have had their own "honour killings", they're even in the Bible...
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GreasyDogMeat: If true you realize that Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world?
ROFLMAO
Post edited December 20, 2016 by toxicTom
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wpegg: No it's not. My suspicions here were mostly based around his behaviour in the cologne thread, and this post where he suggests the Kristallnacht was, if not a good thing, then an exaggeration (indicative of holocaust denial): https://www.gog.com/forum/general/no_snide_comments_on_this_one_please_why_dare_we_not_talk_about_euroepan_regugee_crises/post420

However if he just wants to clear the matter up, he can just reply to make things clear.
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GreasyDogMeat: I don't know much about that group but the information, if translated correctly, hardly seems like some fascist hate group. Willing to give them more than the benefit of the doubt as an American who has gone through this latest election with every 'ism' thrown at their beliefs.

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Atlantico: That is probably true, I'm not familar with how muslims think of her, I'm just going with her own statements. She's a declared atheist.

In fact she's pretty anti-muslim. It's funny that even though she's been abused by the religion she was born into, is a woman, is black, she's still scorned by the mainstream because she dares to speak against islam.

Is there anything higher on the imagined "oppression scale" than islam in the west? Evidently not even a black, abused, mutilated woman. Maybe if she was lesbian, that would help. But nah, let's be realistic here.

She's oppressing muslims.

Also interesting is to read or hear Salman Rushdie talk about his feelings on islam. He's also not muslim. (Any more, by his own accord)
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GreasyDogMeat: Are you actually serious when you say that she is oppressing Muslims?

If true you realize that Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world?

As for her becoming an Atheist... can you blame her?

EDIT: To make the post easier to read/less sloppy.
No man, wow. Never heard of the Oppression Olympics?

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Oppression_Olympics

You think I'm saying that a lone, abused, mutilated black woman is oppressing muslims or islam? That's what you got out of it? I don't even..

Try reading this with a sarcastic voice in your head, while contemplating that she's been banned on multiple occations to speak publically against islam:

Is there anything higher on the imagined "oppression scale" than islam in the west? Evidently not even a black, abused, mutilated woman. Maybe if she was lesbian, that would help. But nah, let's be realistic here.

She's oppressing muslims.
Post edited December 20, 2016 by Atlantico
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wpegg: It's nothing about that group. He refers to "The night of crystal", that was The Kristallnacht.
I see. That comparison in the context used by Cat doesn't necessarily imply they are fascist. Information about "The night of crystal" damaged the Nazi movement and the comparison could be about how the message was received.

Anyway, Cat can speak for his self.

Even if they are fascist... I don't really care. Based on a lot of posts here there appear to be plenty of socialist and communist and I don't believe freedom of speech should be suppressed.
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toxicTom: Thanks for supporting the notion that religions are "created". And the extend...

Well Islam is evolutionary at a point where Christianity has been a few hundred years ago. Conquest with fire and sword propagated by the leaders (the foot folk for the most always prefers to live their lives in peace... but when "god" calls, some will answer...).
The only advantage the Christians has were technological superiority at the time (Gunpowder!).

Nowadays it's rather easy to repel the "wrong crusaders", because we are at an technological advantage, propelled not least by letting go of religious dogmas and embracing science instead.

And yes Christians have had their own "honour killings", they're even in the Bible...
So what's your point? Christianity had it's flaws in the past so now we need to put up with another religion's flaws? Also, have any stats on how many honor killings Christians are involved with now here in present year?

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GreasyDogMeat: If true you realize that Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world?
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toxicTom: ROFLMAO
You ROFLMAOing in agreement or the 'idiocy' of my statement? I'll say it again: If Ayaan Hirsi is oppressing Muslims then by that definition Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world. There is no backlash to criticizing Christians in this day in age unless you somehow find yourself at a local KKK rally. Even then I'd say you'd be safer doing that then criticizing Muhammad in an Islamic country.

EDIT: Or perhaps you were ROFLMAOing at me misreading it. Fair enough.

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Atlantico: No man, wow. Never heard of the Oppression Olympics?

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Oppression_Olympics

You think I'm saying that a lone, abused, mutilated black woman is oppressing muslims or islam? That's what you got out of it? I don't even..

Try reading this with a sarcastic voice in your head, while contemplating that she's been banned on multiple occations to speak publically against islam:

Is there anything higher on the imagined "oppression scale" than islam in the west? Evidently not even a black, abused, mutilated woman. Maybe if she was lesbian, that would help. But nah, let's be realistic here.

She's oppressing muslims.
My mistake, I read that as two separate points.
Post edited December 20, 2016 by GreasyDogMeat
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Dismember77777: So you must be Far-Left.
This is far left. Do I look like it? :/
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catpower1980: 6 August 2016 / Charleroi (Belgium)
Lone terrorist attacked a police checkpoint next to the police station
1 terrorist killed and 2 wounded

19 December 2016 / Berlin (Germany)
Lone terrorist drove a truck into a Christmas market
12 killed and 50 wounded

I hope I won't have to update this list too often....
Is there a reason the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey isn't on this list?
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Dismember77777: So you must be Far-Left.
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Lin545: This is far left. Do I look like it? :/
Don't know what you look like, so can't say.
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kalirion: Is there a reason the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey isn't on this list?
Yep, simply because the thread is Western-Europe centered, otherwise, I could have added the attacks in Turkey (like in the airport) or in other parts of the world.
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catpower1980: 6 August 2016 / Charleroi (Belgium)
Lone terrorist attacked a police checkpoint next to the police station
1 terrorist killed and 2 wounded

19 December 2016 / Berlin (Germany)
Lone terrorist drove a truck into a Christmas market
12 killed and 50 wounded

I hope I won't have to update this list too often....
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kalirion: Is there a reason the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey isn't on this list?
well, technically it isn't Europe ... :)
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GreasyDogMeat: You ROFLMAOing in agreement or the 'idiocy' of my statement? I'll say it again: If Ayaan Hirsi is oppressing Muslims then by that definition Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world. There is no backlash to criticizing Christians in this day in age unless you somehow find yourself at a local KKK rally. Even then I'd say you'd be safer doing that then criticizing Muhammad in an Islamic country.

EDIT: Or perhaps you were ROFLMAOing at me misreading it. Fair enough.
Probably the latter :-) The thought is at least worth a LOL...

Sorry... in xmas time I kind of react sensitive to all that Christian stuff occupying my holidays...

On topic: I don't have the time right know, but the topic is more complicated...
There is no backlash to criticizing Christians in this day...
You're not physically killed anymore but really... look a little further.
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kalirion: Is there a reason the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey isn't on this list?
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catpower1980: Yep, simply because the thread is Western-Europe centered, otherwise, I could have added the attacks in Turkey (like in the airport) or in other parts of the world.
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kalirion: Is there a reason the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey isn't on this list?
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immi101: well, technically it isn't Europe ... :)
Ah, I see, thanks!
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wpegg: I like you. Don't take any shit from these guys, CatPower has a history of using these threads to establish an undercurrent of hatred towards immigrants (he's a facist, that's not an insult, I truly believe he actually really is a member of the belgian facist party, I guess that's just his political ideology,
LOL, seems like you have a crush on me :o)

Actually, Fables is already aware of my political views as I already briefed him/her in some private conversations so you're a bit late to the party. And FYI, there's no Belgian fascist party as the country is split in different electoral entities so we can only choose between the regional ones. And I'm not affiliated....yet ;)
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toxicTom: You're not physically killed anymore but really... look a little further.
Perhaps its different in Germany but in the U.S.A. Christian bashing is quite common and very rarely has any negative consequences. At least as far as the media is concerned. Criticize Islam and its 'racist' this and 'racist' that.
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GreasyDogMeat: You ROFLMAOing in agreement or the 'idiocy' of my statement? I'll say it again: If Ayaan Hirsi is oppressing Muslims then by that definition Christians are the most oppressed religion in the world. There is no backlash to criticizing Christians in this day in age unless you somehow find yourself at a local KKK rally. Even then I'd say you'd be safer doing that then criticizing Muhammad in an Islamic country.

EDIT: Or perhaps you were ROFLMAOing at me misreading it. Fair enough.
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toxicTom: Probably the latter :-) The thought is at least worth a LOL...

Sorry... in xmas time I kind of react sensitive to all that Christian stuff occupying my holidays...

On topic: I don't have the time right know, but the topic is more complicated...

There is no backlash to criticizing Christians in this day...
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toxicTom: You're not physically killed anymore but really... look a little further.
You have your own holidays?
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catpower1980: LOL, seems like you have a crush on me :o)

Actually, Fables is already aware of my political views as I already briefed him/her in some private conversations so you're a bit late to the party. And FYI, there's no Belgian fascist party as the country is split in different electoral entities so we can only choose between the regional ones. And I'm not affiliated....yet ;)
Just noticing your form, not necessarilly an admirer :).

You're allowed your political views. What's interesting is how shady you are with them. Why not just spell it out?

Was the holocaust exaggerated? Did it even happen? Was the "night of crystal" a good thing?

I'm fine with my views on this, I'll air them if asked. Are you?