Posted October 31, 2016

viperfdl
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Ricky_Bobby
Pan Galactic Inc
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden
Posted October 31, 2016

It feels like such a childish and spoiled thing to complain about for someone living in a dictatorship that had serious human rights violations, not to mention the risk to personal safety by being a foreigner (probably Westerner) living in such a country.

Steam sells Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (+ Vietnam), I might suggest that the OP is a fan of fast paced multiplayer FPS and he loves to play Battlefield 4 a lot, like many others prefer Call of Duty or Halo, or Overwatch or something else.
Personally I don't like those games, but I can easily understand his dissapointment. I would feel the same if US puts Russia in some black list for media content (incl. video games) and Origin forbids me to play Dragon Age 2 or Command & Conquer games.
Don't you really see a point here? It's all about exlusives bought for real money and restricted because of some political bull shit interpretation by EA.
This is not some "naughty country" doing "naughty things", this is about evil leaders doing some really evil shit.
That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
If this was Valve and not EA people would not be discussing this matter at all; 'it's Valve, they'll sort it, no worries'.

PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
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Posted October 31, 2016
Download your Origin games and crack them if you don't want to be a potential victim of this in the future. The fact that denying you access to the games you bought is within the power of DRM clients is just another reason why I always download my games and crack them if they are DRM'd. Blocking me access from buying general goods is one thing, denying me access from games I already bought because of a sanction is another.
But of course nobody will care about just another country they've never heard of before in their lives getting access to their games blocked. People will continue happily dealing with DRM services without knowing in advance just what they're getting themselves into.
Ricky_Bobby: That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA. That's cute.
So you're saying that just because his country is 'fucked,' so to say, he shouldn't complain about losing access to his purchases, EA or not? If he's okay with his habitat as of now due to whatever reasons there are, it's his choice and not ours. He might even have already worried about his life and freedom, but no matter what he does, the country is still 'fucked,' I say. And even if he isn't worried whatsoever, just because there is a bigger issue where he lives doesn't invalidate that the smaller issue exists and must be brought up to light.
Plus aren't games seen as an escape from reality? He could be even relying on those games and paying big bucks for it just to escape from this reality you describe.
EA or not, Myanmar or not, he lost a lot of money on games that EA just made unplayable. He has every right to talk about it, and he's not a 'moron' for using that right.
But of course nobody will care about just another country they've never heard of before in their lives getting access to their games blocked. People will continue happily dealing with DRM services without knowing in advance just what they're getting themselves into.

If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
So you're saying that just because his country is 'fucked,' so to say, he shouldn't complain about losing access to his purchases, EA or not? If he's okay with his habitat as of now due to whatever reasons there are, it's his choice and not ours. He might even have already worried about his life and freedom, but no matter what he does, the country is still 'fucked,' I say. And even if he isn't worried whatsoever, just because there is a bigger issue where he lives doesn't invalidate that the smaller issue exists and must be brought up to light.
Plus aren't games seen as an escape from reality? He could be even relying on those games and paying big bucks for it just to escape from this reality you describe.
EA or not, Myanmar or not, he lost a lot of money on games that EA just made unplayable. He has every right to talk about it, and he's not a 'moron' for using that right.
Post edited October 31, 2016 by PookaMustard

Ricky_Bobby
Pan Galactic Inc
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden
Posted October 31, 2016

But of course nobody will care about just another country they've never heard of before in their lives getting access to their games blocked. People will continue happily dealing with DRM services without knowing in advance just what they're getting themselves into.

If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.

So you're saying that just because his country is 'fucked,' so to say, he shouldn't complain about losing access to his purchases, EA or not? If he's okay with his habitat as of now due to whatever reasons there are, it's his choice and not ours. He might even have already worried about his life and freedom, but no matter what he does, the country is still 'fucked,' I say. And even if he isn't worried whatsoever, just because there is a bigger issue where he lives doesn't invalidate that the smaller issue exists and must be brought up to light.
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EA or not, Myanmar or not, he lost a lot of money on games that EA just made unplayable. He has every right to talk about it, and he's not a 'moron' for using that right.
I agree he has every right to complain. The issues is that we, on GOG, Kotaku and elsewhere else are inflating his complaints way out of proportion and looking at it from a childish perspective: 'oh no, this guy can't play his games, his luxury hobby is ruined'.
Post edited October 31, 2016 by Ricky_Bobby

Pheace
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Registered: Jul 2010
From Netherlands
Posted October 31, 2016

But of course nobody will care about just another country they've never heard of before in their lives getting access to their games blocked. People will continue happily dealing with DRM services without knowing in advance just what they're getting themselves into.

PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
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Posted October 31, 2016

But okay, let's suppose it is a temporary situation then. He still has every right to complain about losing access to his games, temporarily or permanently. Its his games that he bought with cash, any intelligent person would expect to be able to play them today, tomorrow, in the future and not be 'denied access' to them via means of a sanction that prohibits future dealings not past dealings.
Post edited October 31, 2016 by PookaMustard

Ricky_Bobby
Pan Galactic Inc
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden
Posted October 31, 2016


EA has already stated they are working to fix it.

paladin181
Cheese
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted October 31, 2016

This is not some "naughty country" doing "naughty things", this is about evil leaders doing some really evil shit.
That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
If this was Valve and not EA people would not be discussing this matter at all; 'it's Valve, they'll sort it, no worries'.

PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
From Other
Posted October 31, 2016

EA has already stated they are working to fix it.
Where do they say that then? I've been looking for this statement ever since I came here this moment.

sanscript
Ltd. DeepSeeker
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway
Posted October 31, 2016

Steam sells Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (+ Vietnam), I might suggest that the OP is a fan of fast paced multiplayer FPS and he loves to play Battlefield 4 a lot, like many others prefer Call of Duty or Halo, or Overwatch or something else.
Personally I don't like those games, but I can easily understand his dissapointment. I would feel the same if US puts Russia in some black list for media content (incl. video games) and Origin forbids me to play Dragon Age 2 or Command & Conquer games.
Don't you really see a point here? It's all about exlusives bought for real money and restricted because of some political bull shit interpretation by EA.

This is not some "naughty country" doing "naughty things", this is about evil leaders doing some really evil shit.
That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
If this was Valve and not EA people would not be discussing this matter at all; 'it's Valve, they'll sort it, no worries'.
1. Should you be held accounted for when your King does something bad? Or when the government accepts for example death as a penalty? Should you then be treated like a terrorist/hacker/murderer just because you live in that country?
2. Is it reasonable that a gaming company should dictate what is or not the right moral, ideology, or political way with another people? Tell me, was Norways primeminister wrong when she urged Facey to not act a "thought police" or a moral guide?
3: Do you honestly think that this type of reaction would ever hurt a government/dictator that has already thrown common human rights in the toilet? For all we know - this is exactly what he needs to escape the reality.
Have you never read history?
Post edited October 31, 2016 by sanscript

Ricky_Bobby
Pan Galactic Inc
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden

Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted October 31, 2016

This is not some "naughty country" doing "naughty things", this is about evil leaders doing some really evil shit.
That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
If this was Valve and not EA people would not be discussing this matter at all; 'it's Valve, they'll sort it, no worries'.
What do you know about a person to call him a "moron"? Is it okay in Sweden to accuse whole population and decide what they can or can't whine about?
Post edited October 31, 2016 by Cadaver747

Ricky_Bobby
Pan Galactic Inc
Registered: Jun 2014
From Sweden
Posted October 31, 2016

This is not some "naughty country" doing "naughty things", this is about evil leaders doing some really evil shit.
That should put things in perspective here. This moron on Reddit is whining about a truly insignificant matter considering where he happens to live. He is worried about games ? he should be worried about his freakin' life and freedom.
If he was living in Hungary, Norway or Brazil I would be more sympathetic towards his cause, but this is bullshit whining and people are devouring the story simply because it's about EA.
If this was Valve and not EA people would not be discussing this matter at all; 'it's Valve, they'll sort it, no worries'.


PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
From Other
Posted October 31, 2016

A sanction is not some naughty slap on the wrist, it's a comprehensive economic blockade.
As games I've got from such services fall under the term 'trades in the past', I'm expected to be able to play them during the sanction's period without the ability to buy any future content. That is why he can complain about it: the items he bought in the past were revoked due to a sanction in the present.
Please show me proof of when EA said they'd fix it.
Post edited October 31, 2016 by PookaMustard

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