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Posted June 17, 2018
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, look at the tyranny in the right hand image. Makes me sick.
Indeed

Just look at it
Posted June 17, 2018
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devoras: the most insidious is trying to co-opt a word that means fairness and promotes freedom: 'Equality', and change it to mean something tyrannical(ie. equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity).
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SirPrimalform: https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/OriginalMeme-1-1200x630-e1474324979895.jpg

Yeah, look at the tyranny in the right hand image. Makes me sick.
If you're tall and can see better, it's because god wanted you to see better. These bloody SJW liberal snowflakes think that someone should get 'help' if they have a disadvantage. Suck it up and help yourself shortarse.
Ah, but what the picture doesn't show is how the person on the left brought those boxes himself, and even hauled them up there. It wouldn't be fair to force him to just give his boxes to the others, but it does make sense that the shorter people could use those boxes. What would be fair is for the shorter people to give the person on the left something in trade, ie. pay for the use of the boxes, to compensate him for his work.

If the short people want boxes, they can make/ bring their own. If you keep taking the tall person's boxes away, he's going to stop bringing them, and then nobody has any boxes; it hurts everyone in the long run. But if you do fair trade, the tall person has a reason to keep bringing the boxes, and the short people keep getting them.
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devoras: Ah, but what the picture doesn't show is
...how the older brother starts shoving the boxes around that didn't belong to him in the first place, then kicks his brothers' asses for daring to even get near "his", because he's the big one, so he can and will abuse his power.

You KNOW that's the most likely scenario here (I mean, who BRINGS crates to the big game?).

Anyone here who grew up with older brothers knows what I mean, and anyone who's been an older brother but has grown up, and looks back, understands (I certainly do).

Substitute "brothers" with "brotherhood of man", and you have a fitting allegory for what's happening in society today.

The older brother didn't "earn" his privilege of being so big and strong. He was just born earlier. It's no individual merit of his that he repurposes crates that aren't his to use. But he takes one for himself by law of the fist. He could help his brothers, but he keeps it to himself. Come on, you can imagine the look on his face when he looks at the little one that his mother has said he must take along. The expression of glee when he recognizes that his little brother hasn't got a chance at all to see the game. Hah!

Shit day for his brothers, great day for him.

At the end of the day, they're all underprivileged. You despise all three of them precisely for their lack of privilege. None of them is watching the game with an actual ticket from a cozy seat. They all peek over the fence. They all have to leech off the system to get a glimpe of the game.

A propos game, how about a new Duke? How awesome would that be?
Post edited June 17, 2018 by Vainamoinen
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devoras: Ah, but what the picture doesn't show is
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Vainamoinen: ...how the older brother starts shoving the boxes around that didn't belong to him in the first place, then kicks his brothers' asses for daring to even get near "his", because he's the big one, so he can and will abuse his power.
Maybe in a third world country, but not in civilized society.
Posted June 17, 2018
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Vainamoinen: Substitute "brothers" with "brotherhood of man", and you have a fitting allegory for what's happening in society today.

The older brother didn't "earn" his privilege of being so big and strong. He was just born earlier.
Oh, so now first humans originated from Europe and not from Africa or Middle East! Or maybe just your "allegory" doesn't really fit?

As for Duke Nukem new game, it will come. With such franchises like Shadow Warrior and Doom being reborn by good developers, it is only a matter of time when Duke license will get itself into capable hands.
Post edited June 17, 2018 by LootHunter
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Fairfox: so yah i do get teh 'angle' taht was used, its just i dont feel it wud work nao anyhoohar. liek... even if you left teh main uuuh argument aside regardless of where your opinion liek lies, i think many of teh larger companies wud no wai want teh social backlash taht would ensue (as said whether you think it justified oooor naht). i dont think all publicitea is gud publicitea despite wut peeps say an' backlash = -$$$
they wud be insane to do it.

societea changes. its just teh wai it is an' teh wai it should be

i dont agree with opinion taht peeps wud be over lee offended ovah liek pong, or whatevs example was used. duke-y as disussed wus liek parody of sexist masculine meathead taht thought with penis, sho', an' teh problem with taht is mockin' or naht (again no comment) it still offers taht viewpoint to embrace. liek... peeps hav shown over teh years taht they are willin' (or just plain dimbo) to overlook teh subtleties or mockin' an' embrace teh core traits. when it is liek so ingrained in teh character/game i feel it a problem or at least i can see why it would be tricky naodayz where peeps are uuuh galvanized an' double-down on certain topics. i think it would give license for deplorables to treat women with same surface (ie non-subtle or parody elements) sneer an' attitude

actual gameplay is cool tho, rite? pew-pew-pew! does it need taht extra schtick, taht gimmick an' polarization, to be gud?

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fronzelneekburm: Duke Nukem isn't the problem. It's "today's climate" that's the problem.
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Fairfox: subjective non?

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darthspudius: <snip>
and a bunch of complete pussies
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Fairfox: this is a word taht needs to be (an' is current lee bein') reclaimed from certain male-dominated thoughts 'n' actions; taht comparin' peeps to women (or women anatomy specific lee here, i guesses) isomehow meks 'em lesser an'/or weak. liek teh same with 'queer' or other in taht it should be taken back an' reclaimed. then probs disposed of, certain lee in teh current lite its used
same with tellin' men to 'grow some balls' or whatevs. demasculinize = wrong o eww o scary

still i guesses it goes with terry-tory re: threadie an' overt masculinitea

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KasperHviid: I think I read somewhere that they got the idea of adding babes really late in production
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Fairfox: read taht as "babies" an' was horrified lolz
Look, I barely understood a fucking thing you wrote. LEARN TO SPELL
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darthspudius: Look, I barely understood a fucking thing you wrote. LEARN TO SPELL
Thank God. I thought it was just me.
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Keep it civil please guys
Posted June 17, 2018
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darthspudius: Look, I barely understood a fucking thing you wrote. LEARN TO SPELL
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pds41: Thank God. I thought it was just me.
Non-native English speakers would have a harder time understanding Fairfox's posts, I'm sure.
Posted June 17, 2018
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devoras: the most insidious is trying to co-opt a word that means fairness and promotes freedom: 'Equality', and change it to mean something tyrannical(ie. equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity).
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SirPrimalform: https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/OriginalMeme-1-1200x630-e1474324979895.jpg

Yeah, look at the tyranny in the right hand image. Makes me sick.
FTFY

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Linko90: Keep it civil please guys
Well, since I'm not a guy, I guess I don't have to keep things civil.
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Linko90: Keep it civil please guys
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dtgreene: Well, since I'm not a guy, I guess I don't have to keep things civil.
'Guys' is an informal, all-inclusive, term. So yes, it includes you. I expect everyone else to remain civil. Failure to do so will require moderation.
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dtgreene: Well, since I'm not a guy, I guess I don't have to keep things civil.
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Linko90: 'Guys' is an informal, all-inclusive, term. So yes, it includes you. I expect everyone else to remain civil. Failure to do so will require moderation.
Sorry, but I am not a guy, and I really resent being called one. I do not see the term "guys" as being gender neutral, as it is clearly the plural of a word that is not gender neutral, and I ask that you not use the term when referring to me.

(If you had just removed the last word from your original sentence, I wouldn't have a problem with this.)
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Linko90: 'Guys' is an informal, all-inclusive, term. So yes, it includes you. I expect everyone else to remain civil. Failure to do so will require moderation.
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dtgreene: Sorry, but I am not a guy, and I really resent being called one. I do not see the term "guys" as being gender neutral, as it is clearly the plural of a word that is not gender neutral, and I ask that you not use the term when referring to me.

(If you had just removed the last word from your original sentence, I wouldn't have a problem with this.)
Noted.

I expect you, as well as everyone else to civil. That also includes off-topic posts. If you have an issue with certain words being used, please contact me through PMs.


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