You're being needlessly combatitive about this, and you're misenterpreting my stance quite a bit. I don't begrudge what you enjoy, and while I see a lot the "grimdark edgy" stuff as silly and over the top, it's certainly not true that it "earns all these pejoratives and dismissiveness" from me. I hold the overly jokey, nothing-but-comic-relief stuff like many of the Marvel films in just as low regard, and I'm a fan of the Snyder films that people so often call overly dark and violent. I love both the dark, gothic Disciples 2 and colorful, fairy-tale-ish HoMM 2, because I feel they both nail their chosen tone without taking things too far.

Looks like I struck a nerve, so someone built themselves a strawman and started hitting it pretending that it was me. There's not a single mention of children in the post nor do I even imply that the game should be removed.

I never understood this prude thinking. Killing, maiming, torturing is ok for children, boobs are "adult"?!

I don't care if they release these sorts of games but I just hope that if they continue down this path, that they add customizable filter options so I can filter out the stuff I have no interest in. That's a feature that would literally benefit everyone.

We don't get to vote anyway.

Lol, did you forget what you posted 24 hours ago?

PURITAN LOGIC 100

Also, I never accused you of wanting to take down the game either. Check your logic. Oh wait, you can't because you don't have any.

I respect that but honestly I don't think I am, as for me it is not unlike defending DRM-free gaming. That is to say, those of us with my particular taste (DRM-free gaming / "edgy grimdark" ... you can add AO games too since I feel they are in a similar spot, at least among the community here) are essentially quite marginalized and don't have that much truly catering to us. Any further encroachment I feel can make the marginalization even worse going forward. You were participating in that lovely "Should GOG accept Epic Fail achievements system" topic and are one of the stalwarts calling out DRMed bs where you see it, so I know you can relate :)

I like some of those DC movies for what they are but that's also an example I have brought up in the past, when people were complaining about "edginess" and "grimdark". To me, the fact that so many folks find the DC movies to be, supposedly, so dark, is a comment on how far the range is firmly planted towards the comedic side of things. I mean ultimately these movies are about characters who in other places have their likeness on cereal, macaroni, and underwear. That's not their "fault" but barring an Elseworlds type story I think it is very hard to push grimness/darkness farther than Batman v. Superman when we are talking about mainstream characters of that kind.

To go back to my DRM-free analogy, I like when games are DRM-free all the way and have DRM-free multiplayer too (for games that include a multiplayer mode, that is). So, while I do appreciate a game getting released on GOG but then I learn the multiplayer is locked behind some sort of online requirement and no option for hotseat/LAN/etc, it's not exactly what I am looking for. I might still well buy it and enjoy it if the singleplayer content has enough of what I am looking for, but I won't feel fully satiated. That is basically how I feel about the DC movies, and about games/movies I feel could have pushed farther. Granted, not everything needs to! I just wish that more would is all :)

+1 for good convo and for referencing those good old games

Takes one to know one. Calling me a puritan implies I want the game removed.

My response that you quoted was to
"most people in Europe would not consider this to be adult content, I certainly wouldn't"

So me not thinking this is a G rated family friendly game makes me a puritan? I'm done talking to you.

Exactly this! Deep Space 9, Babylon 5, both of them handled the flaws of humanity and what it really meant to live in a so called Utopia. You can't run away from your problems on a space station, so you have to solve them.

o yes mature movies who still watch it?. now we just overload with stupid humor and makes anything renderless meaningless goo

just watch the latest Suicide Squad ohh i no longer have the energy nor time to care about anymore.

Well, that's the US american moralist way of thinking: ending lives is OK. The act of creating life is disgusting.

The screenshots of Succubus are a perfect example of this. Violence, blood and gore are depicted freely. But the demon boobs have to be pixelated.

I don't know whats going on, GoG won't post my message and I can't delete this. what the hell

Not really sure a German should be lecturing Americans about moralist thinking. Just saying :P

Why? Because of our censorship laws? And GOG's weird eagerness to comply with the German censorship even in cases where it doesn't exist? Yes, the German censorship is bad. But at least it has the relative rating of which things are worse in the correct order. Nudity is OK. Depiction of Sex is mostly OK too, but will lead to an age rating. The depiction of violence can lead to censorship, especially if it is in the form of gore. And I think that actually makes sense: killing people is very bad, you know. Murder is a crime. But there is nothing wrong with consensual sex.

It takes a quite perverted mind to think that showing an uncovered boob is somehow worse than reveling in mass-murder.