Posted May 29, 2018
Ah shi*,I stuffed it.What I meant was any game that is uncensored.
I do travel a bit and I know what I'm saying.
Tauto
TRUMP'S THE MAN!!!!!! JERKMUTER RULES!!!
Registered: Jul 2015
From Australia
Ah shi*,I stuffed it.What I meant was any game that is uncensored.
I do travel a bit and I know what I'm saying.
mike_cesara
Registered: Jun 2013
From Poland
Posted May 29, 2018
Tauto
TRUMP'S THE MAN!!!!!! JERKMUTER RULES!!!
Registered: Jul 2015
From Australia
mike_cesara
Registered: Jun 2013
From Poland
Piranjade
*twirls*
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted May 29, 2018
high rated
- the ruling was only concerned with refunds for faulty games
- it was about Steam not refunding games for any reason at that time
- the ruling was only about the time before Steam implemented its return policy
None of this makes me believe that GOG's current return policy is not in compliance with Australian law.
- for minor problems Australian consumer law says that the shop has to have the opportunity to fix the problem. GOG does that.
- about a time limit, like GOG's 30 days after purchase, the ACCC has the following to say "Policies that set a time limit, such as ‘no refunds after 30 days’, can be misleading because statutory rights have no time limits, other than what is ‘reasonable’." Which means that 30 days aren't automatically ruled out (they CAN be misleading). The question here would be whether 30 days are reasonable in case of a faulty PC game.
I'll attach a screenshot of the notice Australian Steam users got back in 206 when the case was decided. It shows again that this was about faulty games.
Post edited May 29, 2018 by Piranjade
Elvis is Dead
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted May 29, 2018
Who gives a shit, Will Power won the Indy 500!
In my mind that makes Australia the land of Kings...until next year's race.
In my mind that makes Australia the land of Kings...until next year's race.
bler144
μαϊμού
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Elvis is Dead
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted May 29, 2018
In my mind that makes Australia the land of Kings...until next year's race.
When i lived in St Louis working for B&N we had a reg named Austin Power. No 's' not that it would have mattered because he was like 90 years old and never heard of the movie.
Post edited May 29, 2018 by tinyE
hedwards
buy Evil Genius
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted May 30, 2018
1) Countries absolutely can require companies to abide by their laws even if they aren't resident there, if they want to sell in those countries. New Zealand is far smaller than Aus yet we have GST levied on certain online purchases now- from companies over a certain size of sales; Steam definitely does, not sure if GOG has enough sales to have to- and the vendor has to administer, collect and pay it.
The concept of universal jurisdiction is extremely dangerous and is really only appropriate in cases like where the US prosecutes its own citizens for bribing foreign officials. Or when the Hague tries people for war crimes. Failing to adhere to the local return policy would be an extremely dangerous precedent to set for use of universal jusrisdiction.
As far as the tax goes, there's no law saying that GOG has to collect that tax and if you review the site's terms, you'll find that they're basically only required to adhere to the laws of the EU, not other countries. When they do things like collect taxes for foreign countries, it's voluntary to avoid headaches, but there isn't anything that the Australians can do to force the issue.
Australia doesn't have a firewall in place to prevent people from shopping here and I doubt that the credit card networks would cooperate voluntarily.
Phasmid
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From New Zealand
Posted May 30, 2018
1) Countries absolutely can require companies to abide by their laws even if they aren't resident there, if they want to sell in those countries. New Zealand is far smaller than Aus yet we have GST levied on certain online purchases now- from companies over a certain size of sales; Steam definitely does, not sure if GOG has enough sales to have to- and the vendor has to administer, collect and pay it.
Doesn't matter if you don't have a Great Firewall of ANZACia, if you legally require ISPs to block non compliant sites they'll have to do it as they- and all ISPs- already do for certain sites. The practicalities of it are pretty simple and that they exist is evident from the whole net neutrality debate- there's obviously ways to be non net neutral and that involves far more complicated things like regulating speeds to certain sites rather than just/ only outright blocking them.