Posted March 26, 2015
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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From United States
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Gilozard
Registered: Apr 2011
From United States
Posted March 26, 2015
Depends on the mindset of the person playing and how the content is presented.
Games are fiction and fiction's point is to let people take brief glimpses into other lives. When the game is not immediately distinguishable from real life there's a problem. Just like other forms of entertainment, where that line is depends on the person involved. Children and mentally disabled people are the most obvious groups that have trouble with this, but all adults simply have different tolerances.
I think there's a realism event horizon after which the game is not immediately distinguishable as fiction for some people, and including murder/rape/etc in games after that point isn't OK. There's also the overwhelmingly problematic view of rape and abuse in many cultures that makes portraying or encouraging those actions in a game much less acceptable IMO.
TL;DR It depends on how the content is presented and how the person playing interprets it. Different people will have opposite reactions to the same content, which is why we need options to manage the level of possibly objectionable content in games.
Games are fiction and fiction's point is to let people take brief glimpses into other lives. When the game is not immediately distinguishable from real life there's a problem. Just like other forms of entertainment, where that line is depends on the person involved. Children and mentally disabled people are the most obvious groups that have trouble with this, but all adults simply have different tolerances.
I think there's a realism event horizon after which the game is not immediately distinguishable as fiction for some people, and including murder/rape/etc in games after that point isn't OK. There's also the overwhelmingly problematic view of rape and abuse in many cultures that makes portraying or encouraging those actions in a game much less acceptable IMO.
TL;DR It depends on how the content is presented and how the person playing interprets it. Different people will have opposite reactions to the same content, which is why we need options to manage the level of possibly objectionable content in games.
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Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted March 26, 2015
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Surely, in real life, you value a human's life even higher than an animal's life (like, wouldn't redirect a rolling boulder towards a family of humans in order to save a family of dogs, but might do the opposite). So, what reverses this hierarchy in video games ?
It's not a rhetorical question, I do not even say that it is wrong or hypocritical. I'm just trying to pinpoint the factors that lead to this.
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gamesfreak64
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From Netherlands
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Klumpen0815
+91
Registered: Dec 2012
From Germany
Posted March 26, 2015
I don't even....
Do you really believe this nonsense?
Other animals than homo sapiens have long-term memory too you know?
Do you really believe this nonsense?
Other animals than homo sapiens have long-term memory too you know?
Post edited March 26, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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MaxFulvus
Fulvus Forever !
Registered: Apr 2012
From France
Posted March 26, 2015
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Surely, in real life, you value a human's life even higher than an animal's life (like, wouldn't redirect a rolling boulder towards a family of humans in order to save a family of dogs, but might do the opposite). So, what reverses this hierarchy in video games ?
It's not a rhetorical question, I do not even say that it is wrong or hypocritical. I'm just trying to pinpoint the factors that lead to this.
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Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted March 26, 2015
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Surely, in real life, you value a human's life even higher than an animal's life (like, wouldn't redirect a rolling boulder towards a family of humans in order to save a family of dogs, but might do the opposite). So, what reverses this hierarchy in video games ?
It's not a rhetorical question, I do not even say that it is wrong or hypocritical. I'm just trying to pinpoint the factors that lead to this.
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"Humans" are not only over-weaponized military grunts.
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F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
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infinite9
No Longer New!
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted March 26, 2015
No in terms of morality. The only time it is considered wrong for me is if it means a failed mission and having to restart or reload.
Huge difference between a "murder" in a video game and a murder in real life.
Huge difference between a "murder" in a video game and a murder in real life.
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AnimalMother117
New User
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From United States
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Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted March 27, 2015
Also what about the people to whom you deny existence by not booting the game they feature in, or that you eradicate en masse by quitting - or worse, uninstalling ?
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johnnygoging
I was told there would always be a bigger fish
Registered: Jun 2013
From Canada
Posted March 27, 2015
Yes it is wrong to kill in a videogame.
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Klumpen0815
+91
Registered: Dec 2012
From Germany
Posted March 27, 2015
I couldn't resist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvPR0upXoXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvPR0upXoXg
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Bad Hair Day
Find me in STEAM OT
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djranis
Booze
Registered: Sep 2011
From Canada
Posted March 27, 2015
wrong or right, it doesnt stop people from killing in video games or real life