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richlind33: That only holds water with respect to web sites that are "fairly standard", and GOG is distinctly "unstandard", so maybe you ought to rethink that.
Nah, I'm fine.
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richlind33: That only holds water with respect to web sites that are "fairly standard", and GOG is distinctly "unstandard", so maybe you ought to rethink that.
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Alaric.us: Nah, I'm fine.
Narcissists aren't well-known for rethinking things, but I felt obliged to give you the benefit of the doubt. Good day.
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Linko90: Users who are banned are informed as to why they have banned.

I don't make this information public unless it's a major case (e.g. banned for racism and the like).

Be sure, I am active watching over the forums, but it does not mean I am posting. I have many duties to cover, but I am always watching. As some users can already attest to.

There will be further mods overlooking the forum in the near future. I expect you'll see them posting before long. I also expect users to treat them in a civil manner. I will remind people that the days of breaking the rules and attacking users in harsh manners with no consequence are done.

Just be civil, and you'll have no worries!
Just curious. Is it possible to ban people from the forums only, so that one can still access the games? Or isthis person unable to access its bought games?
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Alaric.us: Nah, I'm fine.
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richlind33: Narcissists aren't well-known for rethinking things, but I felt obliged to give you the benefit of the doubt. Good day.
Yea, I'm not gonna rethink industry standards just because you (an entirely inconsequential stranger on the Internet) feel that this site is special for some reason. If that makes me a narcissist in the eyes of this inconsequential stranger ... I'm perfectly fine with that outcome.

In fact the standards for responsible disclosure for such simple issues is traditionally 5-10 days. The fact that I published it after 3 months, means that I went above and beyond.

So... yea, good day.
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richlind33: Narcissists aren't well-known for rethinking things, but I felt obliged to give you the benefit of the doubt. Good day.
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Alaric.us: Yea, I'm not gonna rethink industry standards just because you (an entirely inconsequential stranger on the Internet) feel that this site is special for some reason. If that makes me a narcissist in the eyes of this inconsequential stranger ... I'm perfectly fine with that outcome.

In fact the standards for responsible disclosure for such simple issues is traditionally 5-10 days. The fact that I published it after 3 months, means that I went above and beyond.

So... yea, good day.
Let's be honest here, you didn't do it because it's an industry standard, you did it because the thread dedicated to your precious jerkmuter was being savagely violated and GOG didn't give a rip -- which was more than you apparently could bear, in spite of the fact that GOG has never given a rip about this forum. But hey, if it helped to heal your butthurt then I'm happy for you. ;p
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Alaric.us: Yea, I'm not gonna rethink industry standards just because you (an entirely inconsequential stranger on the Internet) feel that this site is special for some reason. If that makes me a narcissist in the eyes of this inconsequential stranger ... I'm perfectly fine with that outcome.

In fact the standards for responsible disclosure for such simple issues is traditionally 5-10 days. The fact that I published it after 3 months, means that I went above and beyond.

So... yea, good day.
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richlind33: Let's be honest here, you didn't do it because it's an industry standard, you did it because the thread dedicated to your precious jerkmuter was being savagely violated and GOG didn't give a rip -- which was more than you apparently could bear, in spite of the fact that GOG has never given a rip about this forum. But hey, if it helped to heal your butthurt then I'm happy for you. ;p
By the time all of that happened, the whole JerkMuter business was already put to rest for at least half a year. In fact when I first published it, I never expected the crap-storm that ensued. To me it was just a normal feature, that I was adding for convenience. Yea, I was pretty surprised when people lost their minds, but then it didn't really matter, because everyone who wanted it already had it.

What caused me to build that proof of concept, was the constant disappearing threads at that point. (Again about 6 to 8 months later.) There was a period where threads would disappear within hours, sometimes minutes of being created. First I built an auto-repost script to bring attention to it. That one would repost the thread as soon as it was deleted. That didn't seem to impress GOG, so I built the nuker to kill any post with ease, hoping, that GOG would rather fix the issue than risk something like that being used.

Yes, in retrospect, I was clearly wrong in thinking that it would cause GOG to act. It didn't. I guess it is difficult for me, as a software engineer, to wrap my mind around not wanting to fix bugs in your code. Personally, if you come to me with a bug in a piece of software that I wrote 15 years ago, I'll be pretty much compelled to fix it even if nobody is using it anymore.
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richlind33: Let's be honest here, you didn't do it because it's an industry standard, you did it because the thread dedicated to your precious jerkmuter was being savagely violated and GOG didn't give a rip -- which was more than you apparently could bear, in spite of the fact that GOG has never given a rip about this forum. But hey, if it helped to heal your butthurt then I'm happy for you. ;p
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Alaric.us: By the time all of that happened, the whole JerkMuter business was already put to rest for at least half a year. In fact when I first published it, I never expected the crap-storm that ensued. To me it was just a normal feature, that I was adding for convenience. Yea, I was pretty surprised when people lost their minds, but then it didn't really matter, because everyone who wanted it already had it.

What caused me to build that proof of concept, was the constant disappearing threads at that point. (Again about 6 to 8 months later.) There was a period where threads would disappear within hours, sometimes minutes of being created. First I built an auto-repost script to bring attention to it. That one would repost the thread as soon as it was deleted. That didn't seem to impress GOG, so I built the nuker to kill any post with ease, hoping, that GOG would rather fix the issue than risk something like that being used.

Yes, in retrospect, I was clearly wrong in thinking that it would cause GOG to act. It didn't. I guess it is difficult for me, as a software engineer, to wrap my mind around not wanting to fix bugs in your code. Personally, if you come to me with a bug in a piece of software that I wrote 15 years ago, I'll be pretty much compelled to fix it even if nobody is using it anymore.
As I recall it, Tauto kept bumping the jerkmuter thread because his posts were getting deleted, and you refused to have the thread locked, so then the thread got deleted, you reposted it, Tauto continued bumping it, you kept reposting it, and on and on.
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Alaric.us: By the time all of that happened, the whole JerkMuter business was already put to rest for at least half a year. In fact when I first published it, I never expected the crap-storm that ensued. To me it was just a normal feature, that I was adding for convenience. Yea, I was pretty surprised when people lost their minds, but then it didn't really matter, because everyone who wanted it already had it.

What caused me to build that proof of concept, was the constant disappearing threads at that point. (Again about 6 to 8 months later.) There was a period where threads would disappear within hours, sometimes minutes of being created. First I built an auto-repost script to bring attention to it. That one would repost the thread as soon as it was deleted. That didn't seem to impress GOG, so I built the nuker to kill any post with ease, hoping, that GOG would rather fix the issue than risk something like that being used.

Yes, in retrospect, I was clearly wrong in thinking that it would cause GOG to act. It didn't. I guess it is difficult for me, as a software engineer, to wrap my mind around not wanting to fix bugs in your code. Personally, if you come to me with a bug in a piece of software that I wrote 15 years ago, I'll be pretty much compelled to fix it even if nobody is using it anymore.
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richlind33: As I recall it, Tauto kept bumping the jerkmuter thread because his posts were getting deleted, and you refused to have the thread locked, so then the thread got deleted, you reposted it, Tauto continued bumping it, you kept reposting it, and on and on.
on and on the ABUSE of deleting posts continued and so you say but it's not ABUSE to spam and delete another user's posts! Is it? Well,it is ABUSE to spam and delete another user's post just because you think it's funny (to do).
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richlind33: As I recall it, Tauto kept bumping the jerkmuter thread because his posts were getting deleted, and you refused to have the thread locked, so then the thread got deleted, you reposted it, Tauto continued bumping it, you kept reposting it, and on and on.
Almost, but not exactly. Tauto and Kleetus did keep bumping it, and it did get deleted. At that point I didn't realize that users could delete threads so I thought it was a bug and reposted it. After the second one got deleted it became clear what was going on, but at that point I was all done developing it, so I just let the whole thing go. What pissed me off, was normal unrelated threads disappearing. And again, this was 6 to 8 months after the whole JM debacle.

As to refusing to have the thread locked, that bit never happened. No GOG employee offered to lock it at the time, nor was this brought up by other forum members. It did get brought up after the second thread was deleted.

The whole thing happened over 2 years ago and doesn't really matter at this point. Everyone who wanted to use JS is already using it and since I'm not selling it, I don't care for getting new users. Still, I do believe that users should not have the power to delete other users' threads even if they don't like them and/or even if someone is bumping them. I am perfectly fine with having active moderation on the forum, in fact I think it's a good thing and welcome it. My issue is specifically with other users doing it, and since to this day this was never fixed, both the auto-reposting code and the nuking code still work. It's just that nobody is using them. Combined with open registration and the ability to post as soon as one registers, this can potentially be a serious problem.
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richlind33: As I recall it, Tauto kept bumping the jerkmuter thread because his posts were getting deleted, and you refused to have the thread locked, so then the thread got deleted, you reposted it, Tauto continued bumping it, you kept reposting it, and on and on.
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Alaric.us: Almost, but not exactly. Tauto and Kleetus did keep bumping it, and it did get deleted. At that point I didn't realize that users could delete threads so I thought it was a bug and reposted it. After the second one got deleted it became clear what was going on, but at that point I was all done developing it, so I just let the whole thing go. What pissed me off, was normal unrelated threads disappearing. And again, this was 6 to 8 months after the whole JM debacle.

As to refusing to have the thread locked, that bit never happened. No GOG employee offered to lock it at the time, nor was this brought up by other forum members. It did get brought up after the second thread was deleted.

The whole thing happened over 2 years ago and doesn't really matter at this point. Everyone who wanted to use JS is already using it and since I'm not selling it, I don't care for getting new users. Still, I do believe that users should not have the power to delete other users' threads even if they don't like them and/or even if someone is bumping them. I am perfectly fine with having active moderation on the forum, in fact I think it's a good thing and welcome it. My issue is specifically with other users doing it, and since to this day this was never fixed, both the auto-reposting code and the nuking code still work. It's just that nobody is using them. Combined with open registration and the ability to post as soon as one registers, this can potentially be a serious problem.
It would appear that only half the story is told about it,sort of like ''fake news'' coverage as per normal in this place:)
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Tauto: It would appear that only half the story is told about it,sort of like ''fake news'' coverage as per normal in this place:)
Meh. Again, this was 2 years ago. Doesn't much matter anyway. There are 3.5 billion people on the Internet, so if a dozen or so GOG forums users happen to dislike me, I can most certainly live with that. =)
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Vainamoinen is not somebody we auto-downvote people. If you think he's being too much of an ass sometimes you get all up in his grill about it but I read his posts and they were not worthy of the little auburn badge of shame.

It's not a useful way of dealing with dissent it's only purpose is to mark hateful speech or trolling.

So a couple things. 1) Moderators are always community members. That's common sense. 2) CMs might be neutral to two separate parties in a dispute but ultimately they are performing a service for the company they work for and are never really "neutral". 3) Terry Bogard is in Fighting EX Layer.
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johnnygoging: Vainamoinen is not somebody we auto-downvote people.
And neither am I!
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