Okay, last reply and you can have the last word: I never said there isn't more to it (or more to 'explain', as you put it). What I said is they don't owe you further explanation.

"The problem here is you've already decided that there's more to the explanation than GOG is saying"

Hm? That's literally what you said. Or at the very least, implied.

But look, I'm tired of this too, so I'm also going to step away after this message to cool off a bit.

I hate to disappoint you, but there wasn't any "looking up" involved on my side.

That thread was literally right below this one, and when I replied to the newest comment there, I accidentally stumbled over your comment there, while scrolling down.

Was referring to the number of games I own

Cause it’s perfectly reasonable to expect me to research everything you’ve ever said anywhere else about the subject. Of course, if you have a more nuanced, well thought out position you could just present it here instead of saying the same thing over and over.

No, the youtubers don't speak for all gamers.

However, their videos, and their audience members' responses to their videos, proves that a huge preponderance of gamers - meaning literally hundreds of thousands to millions of people - know both that:

a) GOG flagrantly outright lied to them by saying they banned Devotion because "many gamers" told them to

b) GOG bent the knee to the CCP and banned the game solely in order to appease them, which is a fact that GOG is too cowardly to admit, hence their "many gamers" lie

And those, we who are the real many gamers who actually exist (unlike lying GOG's fictitious ones who they just fabricated out of thin air as a scapegoat cover-up for their bending of the knee to the CCP), they are boycotting GOG in droves as a consequence.

They may not raise a huge fuss about it here on the GOG forums (where it seems GOG apologists are now starting to out-number honest gamers who call GOG out on their diabolical crap, hence the mass down-rating of anyone who speaks honestly about this matter), but that silent majority do vote with their wallets, and GOG is financially suffering for that as a consequence, and will continue to do so until if & when they ever decide to "man up" and make things right in regards to this debacle.

By the way, "firstpastthepost," to use your own premise again: do the "many gamers" that GOG alleges caused them to ban the game...do they speak for all gamers? And if not, then why do they get a special privilege to dictate to GOG what games must be banned? Who made them gods or kings over all other gamers? How come normal actual GOG customers don't have that same power to ban games they don't like off of GOG?

Has anyone noticed how GOG never actually said 'many gamers'?

No?

*mind blown*

kthxbai

No one 'noticed' that because that quoted assertion is untrue. In fact, GOG did indeed say "many gamers."

They said "many messages from gamers," which is equivalent, unless you are suggesting these "many messages" could have been written by just a couple of "gamers," which as a matter of fact, is also a possibility.

https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/1339227388438306817

Oh, well after looking that up, it appears you may be "technically correct," if one wants to play semantic word games.

Nevertheless, "many gamers" is an accurate truncation/paraphrase of "many messages from gamers," both of which phrases communicate the same idea.

But for the sake of being technically pristine and not 'losing' to semantic word game arguments in the future, henceforth I shall endeavor to cite the GOG's words verbatim, which are equally as diabolical & untruthful as any truncated/paraphrased version of them.

Seems silly to insist that there can’t possibly be any real gamers who complained about the game given the many publicly visible complaints about it that came up on Steam. So clearly there are some number of people who don’t want to see the game sold.

Also, the number of people who liked that video is hardly a “preponderance of gamers”. What you’re insisting people know is really speculation. I agree that it is likely that the motivation to cancel releasing the game came from a government compliant rather than from gamers, but I don’t know that because I can’t know that, and neither can you.

Exactly, they said 'many messages from gamers', which could mean a very active minority of gamers sending loads of messages, or it could mean many gamers sending many messages, or it could mean many gamers sending a few messages each. We don't actually know.

I just find it fascinating how the term 'many gamers' spread like wildfire and was quoted everywhere as the gospel truth. Meaning most people had never even read the original tweet that started this whole thing.

I find it fascinating. It's like how hearsay gets less and less accurate the more people spread the message and the more people it goes through, each injecting their own bias onto the 'facts of the matter'.

*mind blown*

You mean: many gamers?
Some of which probably coming from the most populous country in the world, aka: China?

Not to mention the country where the majority of Cyberpunk pre-order originated from despite not being officially sold there.