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Posted December 24, 2020
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kohlrak: There's alot of games already lost to time because of less. Unless they can be patched or the pirates do a good number on them, they'll be lost. That's one of the reasons i'm not worried as much about the DLC era stuff. Fortunately, the messages usually aren't as profound.
Still, I hate to see good content possibly lost forever.....but here's hoping it gets preserved somehow.
Posted December 24, 2020
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GamezRanker: Some games have some nice story DLC, though, like the Mass Effect series. Imo it'd be a shame if it gets lost to time.
grats :p
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Posted December 24, 2020
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tfishell: grats :p
Yeah...my rep, like the game(for some people), is a big dumpster fyre. ;D
Posted December 24, 2020
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GamezRanker: Some games have some nice story DLC, though, like the Mass Effect series. Imo it'd be a shame if it gets lost to time.
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tfishell: grats :p
Cyberpunk GamezRanker
Posted January 15, 2021
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kohlrak: Cyberpunk GamezRanker
When I get to 2525 i'm gonna throw a party here maybe. :D
Posted January 17, 2021
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llamas: I bet the Zoom platform owners would be super happy to know that there are actually people talking about their store here. I also bet that they contribute such a small amount of sales that they are just a rounding error for most publishers so it's easy to see why they have forgotten their existence.

I also highly doubt that Devotion will get released on the Zoom Platform. If Red Candle wanted to release their games on other stores besides Steam, GOG and Epic they would definitely go with itch.io first. I don't think that itch.io is so dependent on Chinese investment yet that they have to worry about making China mad, but they also don't have Detention there either, so there's no precedent to release this game.

I think Zoom-platform is like fire flower games, just a side project, DRM-Free store that offers some games for sale, but is not a big priority and that's fine. I just bought KGB and Commander Blood from there. The publisher is Microids and the developer is Cryo so it's not like the devs are going to see a cent of my money either way. I'll just save the offline installer and if the store exists in the future and expands great, if not, I have copies that will likely still work on windows 15 since they run in DOSBox so no problem for me.

Also GOG please learn some lessons from all your recent (and past) bad press and do better. Stop calling us gamers, stop your edgy marketing,it's insulting and stop pretending like you are "one of the good guys and are fighting against DRM", you are not.
You say a bunch of sensible sounding things, then spoil it right at the end by saying something nonsensical.

If GOG, who have over 99% of their store selling DRM-Free games, aren't the good guys, then who are?
There's certainly no-one else out there doing as much for DRM-Free as they have been doing.

It's the typical old story, of someone who has done a thousand great things, doing one bad thing and that's all some want to recall and judge them by ... just stupid and illogical, and says more about the person who is being like that.
Posted January 17, 2021
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kohlrak: Cyberpunk GamezRanker
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GamezRanker: When I get to 2525 i'm gonna throw a party here maybe. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic
Posted January 17, 2021
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amok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic
That and some other things(like the show Cleopatra 2525) probably will be the theme. :)
Posted January 26, 2021
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llamas: I bet the Zoom platform owners would be super happy to know that there are actually people talking about their store here. I also bet that they contribute such a small amount of sales that they are just a rounding error for most publishers so it's easy to see why they have forgotten their existence.

I also highly doubt that Devotion will get released on the Zoom Platform. If Red Candle wanted to release their games on other stores besides Steam, GOG and Epic they would definitely go with itch.io first. I don't think that itch.io is so dependent on Chinese investment yet that they have to worry about making China mad, but they also don't have Detention there either, so there's no precedent to release this game.

I think Zoom-platform is like fire flower games, just a side project, DRM-Free store that offers some games for sale, but is not a big priority and that's fine. I just bought KGB and Commander Blood from there. The publisher is Microids and the developer is Cryo so it's not like the devs are going to see a cent of my money either way. I'll just save the offline installer and if the store exists in the future and expands great, if not, I have copies that will likely still work on windows 15 since they run in DOSBox so no problem for me.

Also GOG please learn some lessons from all your recent (and past) bad press and do better. Stop calling us gamers, stop your edgy marketing,it's insulting and stop pretending like you are "one of the good guys and are fighting against DRM", you are not.
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Timboli: You say a bunch of sensible sounding things, then spoil it right at the end by saying something nonsensical.

If GOG, who have over 99% of their store selling DRM-Free games, aren't the good guys, then who are?
There's certainly no-one else out there doing as much for DRM-Free as they have been doing.

It's the typical old story, of someone who has done a thousand great things, doing one bad thing and that's all some want to recall and judge them by ... just stupid and illogical, and says more about the person who is being like that.
The reason for the backlash and framing as GOG as bad is due to them...well...being bad? You can't sell yourself as ''Truly gamer friendly DRM-free online gaming platform. Classic & new PC games, great offers, friendly staff, awesome community!'' When you blame ''the gamers'' for not selling the game, even though that makes no sense given they announced they pulled it so quickly after the dev tweet it wouldn't have left room for ''da gamers'' to even have input.

As for DRM-Free (by the way, you heard much about fck-drm day or checked their website they setup for it recently?), the lack of care with the offline installers is becoming more charted and recorded by the userbase. Plus, it's pretty clear to see where they see their future in clients.

As for presevation...i mean you can't champion that then bury a game you know?

As for community...what community? The one they fear? The one they refuse to interact with outside of the same 3 tenor GIFs?

The reframing wasn't done by the users, it was done by them.

I understand you love GOG, I still enjoy the service and treasure the games they have that would have been lost in time...but that's another issue, they don't even seem to understand they have those games or how important that is.

The change in view is not a sudden one, but a slow burn which keeps on changing.
Post edited January 26, 2021 by Linko64
Posted January 26, 2021
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Linko64: The reason for the backlash and framing as GOG as bad is due to them...well...being bad? You can't sell yourself as ''Truly gamer friendly DRM-free online gaming platform. Classic & new PC games, great offers, friendly staff, awesome community!'' When you blame ''the gamers'' for not selling the game, even though that makes no sense given they announced they pulled it so quickly after the dev tweet it wouldn't have left room for ''da gamers'' to even have input.
Incidentally, there's a wish on the wishlist that addresses this particular issue...

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/remove_truly_gamer_friendly_from_your_twitter_bio
Posted January 26, 2021
The only way and time to get physically hold of GOG representatives would be at Gamescom, right?

If there's one this year and GOG is present with a booth and all that, maybe someone from the community or members of the press could swing by and ask them for a belated statement on why they went with this ludicrous "the gamers told us to do it" excuse instead of just openly admitting to Devotion being too hot to handle and them dropping it at the last minute because of the potential implications.

"We're a company that has to turn a profit to keep the lights on after all, and we didn't want to risk losing access to the Chinese market, we hope you understand." or something along those lines.
An official apology for the excuse to top it off, and all would be good, for me at least.
Post edited January 26, 2021 by jcbgnkbv
Posted January 26, 2021
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Linko64: you heard much about fck-drm day or checked their website they setup for it recently?
If we're talking FEW YEARS being described as "recently"...
https://web.archive.org/web/20180821113130/https://fckdrm.com/
( you need to copy paste the link manually since GOG forum software is utter garbage and custs everything before last https )
That's earilest capture on archive org, the site might have been possibly setup live eariler.

Btw I just preserved current site version for "historical accuracy" (such as not allowing GOG to shove truth under the carpet in few months) on GOG's hypocrisy (since there didn't appear to be any saved dump so far in 2021).
https://web.archive.org/web/20201225003258/https://fckdrm.com/

While saving it striked my attention one line (when archive org saves page it shows what is saves so I noticed because of this) in saved site files:
https://fckdrm.com/images/schafer_wikipedia.jpg
file name of "schafer_wikipedia" threw me off, I mean, just how blunt (and dumb, you're not supposed to have filenames THAT OBVIOUS on public facing site) could be the webdesigner of this site.
So I went to check and lo and behold:
[url=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tim_120A354-crop.jpg]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tim_120A354-crop.jpg[/url]
I wonder if they even asked him for permission to be featured on the site... or if they just blatantly copied his statement from somewhere, snagged his picture off wikipedia, slapped it together and called it a day...

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Linko64: As for community...what community? The one they fear? The one they refuse to interact with outside of the same 3 tenor GIFs?
That's probably how they see their "future projected + hoped highest income country community" /s

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jcbgnkbv: The only way and time to get physically hold of GOG representatives would be at Gamescom, right?
Or you can get physically to their office I guess...
Posted January 27, 2021
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jcbgnkbv: The only way and time to get physically hold of GOG representatives would be at Gamescom, right?

If there's one this year and GOG is present with a booth and all that, maybe someone from the community or members of the press could swing by and ask them for a belated statement on why they went with this ludicrous "the gamers told us to do it" excuse instead of just openly admitting to Devotion being too hot to handle and them dropping it at the last minute because of the potential implications.
I bet they'd ask people asking such to leave or ask security to escort them offsite, more so than actually answer.
(or they'd give some vague non answer or pr style cut and paste cookie cutter response)

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B1tF1ghter: Or you can get physically to their office I guess...
I heard that(years back) GOG invited 6 users to it's HQ long ago, asking for their input on the site/store/etc while promising to take their criticism/suggestions/feedback to heart.....and that GOG used the criticism/suggestions/feedback as you'd likely expect.
(I have the link, but I hesitate to post it....as if anyone posts there GOG might lock it due to "necroposting" as they seem to do these days to some threads)
Post edited January 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted January 27, 2021
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Linko64: The change in view is not a sudden one, but a slow burn which keeps on changing.
Well said
(Clip is the first one I found: "The Times they are a changin", in the intro to the film "The Watchmen")
Post edited January 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted January 27, 2021
So any word on this?
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