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Starmaker: *snip*
What you say makes sense and I think it's great that you decided to make this post, but...
Sorry, no matter how brain-damaged or not an adult is, in the absence of proof everyone will consider the most "obvious" explanation for a problem.

The only question I've left is: Why didn't GOG explain this?
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Too support GOG is now to support genocide.
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Starmaker: *snip*
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Nible1: What you say makes sense and I think it's great that you decided to make this post, but...
Sorry, no matter how brain-damaged or not an adult is, in the absence of proof everyone will consider the most "obvious" explanation for a problem.

The only question I've left is: Why didn't GOG explain this?
They obviously imagined it would save their skin. Obviously it was just imagination.
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kohlrak: A fundamentalist Christian at new york times? Did i just wake up in the twilight zone? Fox has been controlled opposition for years even before Donald Trump. I think you're onto something, but you have the wrong motive: PH was in the crosshairs of both the left and the right for a while now, for different reasons. Christians like myself are, more or less, out of the picture. As a result, we're learning our lessons: shouldn't try to legislate morality, because you cannot have morality thorugh force, but only through the freely willed choice to avoid the sin that is available. We lost our last shreds of power because we failed to understand that fundamental position.

Also, since when has facebook protected the far right?

EDIT: And Christian criticism of islam is quickly censored off youtube, but death threats from muslims are apparently not against youtube policies. If you need evidence, co look for Acts17 Apologetics on youtube. He's found sneaky ways to avoid his videos getting taken down, but he loves to remind us what he has to do to accomplish that task.
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GreywolfLord: Yes, it may seem wierd to some, but the reporter is a Fundy (or at least allies with them consistently in taking down Pornsites, stripping and escort groups and anything related to them). Supposedly (I think Rolling Stone did an expose on him after his PH article) he has done this before and even got caught up in a lawsuit when one of his false stories actually started people donating money to a group that lied about many of the facets for his story. He didn't really check out his facts.

His most recent story had much of it's research done with a Anti-Porn Christian group where he supposedly spent (once again, according to Rolling Stone and other groups that wrote articles on what was happening to PH after this New York Times article) months with them in concocting the whole thing. Their Site now brags about his article and their role in it supposedly (I haven't visited their site, just taking the other media articles word for it).
Sometimes you do see that. But you can't tell me someone for the The New York Times is a fundamentalist Christian, nor can you tell me that Christianity was his reason for nailing PH over YT or FB, especialyl with their treatment of notable people who are potentially christianity's strongest allies: Carl "I'm an atheist, but I don't hate Christianity" Benjamin, Dr. Jordan "Christianity is the collective unconscious of our ancestors and should not be ignored" Peters, Stefan "Universally Preferable Behavior" Molyneux, David "I'm unironically a Christian" Wood, etc. I wouldn't even believe you if you said Fox News was Christian, but at least with them I'd know where you got the idea.
I can't say I think PH was a good site or the best of site, BUT this guy lying about his real purpose and deceiving people and groups into reactions to take it down...That just rubs me wrong. It's anti-free speech for one and also trying to censor what is under someone else's control. In some ways it's very similar to the actions people are saying the CCP did to GOG, but in this case it's this reporter who wrote this article and the group behind him.
Seeing what i've seen from PH, while i wouldn't say their primary product is the best of things, I'd rather see yotuube go under than pornhub. In a weird way, PH is more viable than things like bitchute for non-pornographic content (not that very many people have caught onto this). Oddly enough, the usual crowd that follows the New York Times does seem, to some degree, to be anti-porn, but also anti Christian. These are strange times with even stranger alliances.
He is clever though, it actually wasn't a full on article. He wrote it as an 'opinion' piece which means he didn't have to vet his sources, didn't have to do any journalistic integrity, and has more lax rules because it was an OPINION rather than an actual news report.
Yeah, i've been noticing that pattern, lately, too.
Everyone needs to watch the documentary "The Tank Man", and watch the CPP massacre thousands of innocent and unarmed protestors.

Then I want you to ask yourself, do I really want to support GOG? Do I really want to give a penny to a company that would sell out to a regime that would gun down there own populace?

GOG should condemn the CPP and apologize for there actions.

Until then, if you put a penny into GOG, you might as well just say that you are okay with genocide.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by RockyFour1
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RockyFour1: Everyone needs to watch the documentary "The Tank Man", and watch the CPP massacre thousands of innocent and unarmed protestors.

Then I want you to ask yourself, do I really want to support GOG? Do I really want to give a penny to a company that would sell out to a regime that would gun down there own populace?

GOG should condemn the CPP and apologize for there actions.

Until then, if you put a penny into GOG, you might as well just say that you are okay with genocide.
Notice tear gassing is unacceptable for alot of people, but suddenly China's actions are. I'm giving the "I'm not buying from gog until Devotion comes here" crowd, here, the benefit of the doubt because this is new behavior, but the usual boycott crowds are hypocrites: it's very rare to see boycotts that are truly on principles.
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RockyFour1: Everyone needs to watch the documentary "The Tank Man", and watch the CPP massacre thousands of innocent and unarmed protestors.

Then I want you to ask yourself, do I really want to support GOG? Do I really want to give a penny to a company that would sell out to a regime that would gun down there own populace?

GOG should condemn the CPP and apologize for there actions.

Until then, if you put a penny into GOG, you might as well just say that you are okay with genocide.
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kohlrak: Notice tear gassing is unacceptable for alot of people, but suddenly China's actions are. I'm giving the "I'm not buying from gog until Devotion comes here" crowd, here, the benefit of the doubt because this is new behavior, but the usual boycott crowds are hypocrites: it's very rare to see boycotts that are truly on principles.
I don't know if your aware, but the current government of China, has taken, automatic weapons, and fired into crowds of unarmed protesters in there capital, and as a result, thousands of people were executed. .

I don't understand how you could say that people are hypocritical or compare tear gas, to being fired upon with AK-47's.

Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure, nobody on this forum, has ever thought to grab automatic weapons and fire into crowds of people.

if they have, they probably should be in a mental institute or prison.

Don't be a moron.
I can't blame gog. It's awful situation for the devs and gog itself.

The Chinese government incursion into every part of the world, their indirect censorship of foreign media by threatening blocking of the market and even worse like hacking websites is not something gog can really fight alone.

Especially since

Currently fifteen states recognise Taiwan as the ROC (and thus do not have official relations with Beijing): Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See, Honduras, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Nicaragua, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland and Tuvalu.

Our own governments are bitches and bow to winnie the pooh.

How can small polish company go against that while even trump government never even considered saying that Taiwan is independent country?

Gog was naive in this case. Did not realize how powerful pro chinese movement is. And what they thought would be a good pr move and lots of sales could have threatened their business, especially now with important release.

So until our government stop being bitches small companies will have to bow to China.
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kohlrak: Notice tear gassing is unacceptable for alot of people, but suddenly China's actions are. I'm giving the "I'm not buying from gog until Devotion comes here" crowd, here, the benefit of the doubt because this is new behavior, but the usual boycott crowds are hypocrites: it's very rare to see boycotts that are truly on principles.
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RockyFour1: I don't know if your aware, but the current government of China, has taken, automatic weapons, and fired into crowds of unarmed protesters in there capital, and as a result, thousands of people were executed. .

I don't understand how you could say that people are hypocritical or compare tear gas, to being fired upon with AK-47's.

Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure, nobody on this forum, has ever thought to grab automatic weapons and fire into crowds of people.

if they have, they probably should be in a mental institute or prison.

Don't be a moron.
It's very simple: any time someone like evil bad Orange Man is leader in the country where crowds of violent protesters are dispersed with tear gas, everyone's up in arms about how he's a dictator, but those same people criticize him for engaging at all with China, saying China did nothing wrong. I'm sorry that you're so blind to sophistry that you're clueless to how modern politics works, but perhaps if you took some time, you could seewhat i'm saying.

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lukaszthegreat: I can't blame gog. It's awful situation for the devs and gog itself.

The Chinese government incursion into every part of the world, their indirect censorship of foreign media by threatening blocking of the market and even worse like hacking websites is not something gog can really fight alone.

Especially since

Currently fifteen states recognise Taiwan as the ROC (and thus do not have official relations with Beijing): Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See, Honduras, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Nicaragua, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland and Tuvalu.

Our own governments are bitches and bow to winnie the pooh.

How can small polish company go against that while even trump government never even considered saying that Taiwan is independent country?

Gog was naive in this case. Did not realize how powerful pro chinese movement is. And what they thought would be a good pr move and lots of sales could have threatened their business, especially now with important release.

So until our government stop being bitches small companies will have to bow to China.
Government is downstream of culture.
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RockyFour1: I don't know if your aware, but the current government of China, has taken, automatic weapons, and fired into crowds of unarmed protesters in there capital, and as a result, thousands of people were executed. .

I don't understand how you could say that people are hypocritical or compare tear gas, to being fired upon with AK-47's.

Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure, nobody on this forum, has ever thought to grab automatic weapons and fire into crowds of people.

if they have, they probably should be in a mental institute or prison.

Don't be a moron.
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kohlrak: It's very simple: any time someone like evil bad Orange Man is leader in the country where crowds of violent protesters are dispersed with tear gas, everyone's up in arms about how he's a dictator, but those same people criticize him for engaging at all with China, saying China did nothing wrong. I'm sorry that you're so blind to sophistry that you're clueless to how modern politics works, but perhaps if you took some time, you could seewhat i'm saying.

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lukaszthegreat: I can't blame gog. It's awful situation for the devs and gog itself.

The Chinese government incursion into every part of the world, their indirect censorship of foreign media by threatening blocking of the market and even worse like hacking websites is not something gog can really fight alone.

Especially since

Currently fifteen states recognise Taiwan as the ROC (and thus do not have official relations with Beijing): Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Holy See, Honduras, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Nicaragua, Palau, Paraguay, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland and Tuvalu.

Our own governments are bitches and bow to winnie the pooh.

How can small polish company go against that while even trump government never even considered saying that Taiwan is independent country?

Gog was naive in this case. Did not realize how powerful pro chinese movement is. And what they thought would be a good pr move and lots of sales could have threatened their business, especially now with important release.

So until our government stop being bitches small companies will have to bow to China.
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kohlrak: Government is downstream of culture.
The Chinese Communist Party took Ak-47's and tanks and shot into crowds of unarmed people for peacefully protesting there regime.

Are you fucking retarded dude? China and the U.S.A are not even in the same league of oppression. Imagine if Trump decided to tell the army to go to Washington and shoot down all of the people who opposed him with automatic weapons and then executed anyone who tried to report on the incident.

That is what China did. That is literally what China did, they went into Bejing, and gunned down a bunch of university students, among others, for being pro-capitalism; for peacefully protesting the regime.

China sent in tanks and soldiers to commit genocide on there own population for having a opinion.

You are a fucking idiot for trying to defend China. I am assuming you have no clue about the CPP and there many outrageous offences.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by RockyFour1
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RockyFour1: The Chinese Communist Party took Ak-47's and tanks and shot into crowds of unarmed people for peacefully protesting there regime.

Are you fucking retarded dude? China and the U.S.A are not even in the same league of oppression. Imagine if Trump decided to tell the army to go to Washington and shoot down all of the people who opposed him with automatic weapons and then executed anyone who tried to report on the incident.

That is what China did. That is literally what China did, they went into Bejing, and gunned down a bunch of university students, among others, for being pro-capitalism; and peacefully protesting the regime.

China sent in tanks and soldiers to commit genocide on there own population for having a opinion.

You are a fucking idiot for trying to defend China. I am assuming you have no clue about the CPP and there many outrageous offences.
You might want to slow down and reread what i posted. I'm not even defending china in the slightest. It would seem i'm a little more educated than you on the CPP's offenses. But, hey, i doubt you'll take my advice, and just come after me again. =p
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RockyFour1: The Chinese Communist Party took Ak-47's and tanks and shot into crowds of unarmed people for peacefully protesting there regime.

Are you fucking retarded dude? China and the U.S.A are not even in the same league of oppression. Imagine if Trump decided to tell the army to go to Washington and shoot down all of the people who opposed him with automatic weapons and then executed anyone who tried to report on the incident.

That is what China did. That is literally what China did, they went into Bejing, and gunned down a bunch of university students, among others, for being pro-capitalism; and peacefully protesting the regime.

China sent in tanks and soldiers to commit genocide on there own population for having a opinion.

You are a fucking idiot for trying to defend China. I am assuming you have no clue about the CPP and there many outrageous offences.
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kohlrak: You might want to slow down and reread what i posted. I'm not even defending china in the slightest. It would seem i'm a little more educated than you on the CPP's offenses. But, hey, i doubt you'll take my advice, and just come after me again. =p
I feel like you should be a little bit more offended by GOG's decision then.
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kohlrak: You might want to slow down and reread what i posted. I'm not even defending china in the slightest. It would seem i'm a little more educated than you on the CPP's offenses. But, hey, i doubt you'll take my advice, and just come after me again. =p
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RockyFour1: I feel like you should be a little bit more offended by GOG's decision then.
I think i've made my offense clear in other posts, especially the ones you obviously have not read. The one you decided to jump in on, in particular, was pointing out that I am surprised at whom i find myself agreeing with here on gog, because normally these same people defend china any other time. It's curious, and i'm more used to sophistry from the left, so perhaps we might want to consider what all might be going on here.

EDIT: I'll just make my position crystal clear, incase anyone else ever chimes in like this, i can link back to this post.

My girlfriend was diagnosed with Kung Flu, and her symptoms are getting worse (she has congenital pre-existing conditions). She's a healthcare professional, and a Trump supporter like me. I remember when blocking flights from china was "racist" because "there's no evidence of human to human transmission." I have evidence that the virus did indeed come from the Wuhan lab, not that you need evidence given the mental gymnastics necessary to explain another vector, especially after what the CCP said about SARS-CoV(-1). I don't particularly care for China's social credit system, and, while I am certainly no fan of Islam, I also don't particularly care for what they're doing to muslims in China. I'm particularly unfond of the left notoriously standing up for China. I could go on for hours, but i think this is enough to extrapolate from.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by kohlrak
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RockyFour1: I feel like you should be a little bit more offended by GOG's decision then.
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kohlrak: I think i've made my offense clear in other posts, especially the ones you obviously have not read. The one you decided to jump in on, in particular, was pointing out that I am surprised at whom i find myself agreeing with here on gog, because normally these same people defend china any other time. It's curious, and i'm more used to sophistry from the left, so perhaps we might want to consider what all might be going on here.

EDIT: I'll just make my position crystal clear, incase anyone else ever chimes in like this, i can link back to this post.

My girlfriend was diagnosed with Kung Flu, and her symptoms are getting worse (she has congenital pre-existing conditions). She's a healthcare professional, and a Trump supporter like me. I remember when blocking flights from china was "racist" because "there's no evidence of human to human transmission." I have evidence that the virus did indeed come from the Wuhan lab, not that you need evidence given the mental gymnastics necessary to explain another vector, especially after what the CCP said about SARS-CoV(-1). I don't particularly care for China's social credit system, and, while I am certainly no fan of Islam, I also don't particularly care for what they're doing to muslims in China. I'm particularly unfond of the left notoriously standing up for China. I could go on for hours, but i think this is enough to extrapolate from.
It's not even a left or right thing, is people not being educated.

If you explain to people that the same Chinese Government as is today, committed genocide on there own population for having a opinion. All of a sudden, there's not going to be to many fans of China.

The problem is, they don't know. For some reason, people don't talk about those things.

They think China is something that it is not.
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kohlrak: I think i've made my offense clear in other posts, especially the ones you obviously have not read. The one you decided to jump in on, in particular, was pointing out that I am surprised at whom i find myself agreeing with here on gog, because normally these same people defend china any other time. It's curious, and i'm more used to sophistry from the left, so perhaps we might want to consider what all might be going on here.

EDIT: I'll just make my position crystal clear, incase anyone else ever chimes in like this, i can link back to this post.

My girlfriend was diagnosed with Kung Flu, and her symptoms are getting worse (she has congenital pre-existing conditions). She's a healthcare professional, and a Trump supporter like me. I remember when blocking flights from china was "racist" because "there's no evidence of human to human transmission." I have evidence that the virus did indeed come from the Wuhan lab, not that you need evidence given the mental gymnastics necessary to explain another vector, especially after what the CCP said about SARS-CoV(-1). I don't particularly care for China's social credit system, and, while I am certainly no fan of Islam, I also don't particularly care for what they're doing to muslims in China. I'm particularly unfond of the left notoriously standing up for China. I could go on for hours, but i think this is enough to extrapolate from.
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RockyFour1: It's not even a left or right thing, is people not being educated.

If you explain to people that the same Chinese Government as is today, committed genocide on there own population for having a opinion. All of a sudden, there's not going to be to many fans of China.

The problem is, they don't know. For some reason, people don't talk about those things.

They think China is something that it is not.
I believe you underestimate the populace, especially after Trump. There's no point in talking about somethign we all already know and understand. Would you say the same thing about, say, North Korea? How about Trump's deals in the Middle-East? No no, i'm quite familair with the average person's view on china being "not my problem." It's not ignorance, but apathy. This is most likely, however, why this action on gog's behalf changes a few things: the realization that it's no longer "not my problem" anymore.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by kohlrak