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Posted November 28, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: 1. I do not play those games so it does not hurt me but if you make those games then don't claim to fight for drm free and brag about the principles you previously had because certainly those don't mean as much as they once did. Secondly CDP and GOG should not embrace always online and MTX like Gwent because why should other publisher be held to that standard with no such practices if CDP and GOG don't care.
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GameRager: They have ONE such game....it's not like they are abandoning their principles in massive ways...that is what U am trying to say. They are still fighting the good fight", even if they made one such game.....exceptions do not invalidate something/etc.

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ChrisGamer300: 2. Yes you can make exceptions now and then but be sure to not undermine you own values too many times because once you go down deeper then you might not like the end result, GOG's only and real selling point is the offline installers and drm free. Many people are far less forgiving then me.
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GameRager: And some might come regardless who don't care as much about DRM as some of us do.....the number of customers won't necessrily go vastly up or down as a result.

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ChrisGamer300: 3. No one has said it's the end of the world and CDP is the worst, i just prefer them not going down the road that gwent did it's nothing more than that, i think it's you who think what i have written is more serious than it actually is and it's only my thoughts on the matter.
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GameRager: Sorry if I took your words toot seriously....I was just trying to argue my own points a bit and talk on the issue at hand.
I have never said it invalidates something but it does make it sound like something you say to look good rather than being genuine about it, an exception here and there is fine but it does worry me maybe i'm a bit paranoid but we both know EA, Activision, 2K and Bethesda didn't start out as horrible as they are now and i need to make this fully clear that CDP are nowhere near these monstrosities and will hopefully never be it's just an example of how the future can turn out.

Yes but then the store would lose relevance, why would anyone come here for drm'ed games unless it's a future exclusive. I would be surprised if GOG still was fine if they stopped caring about drm but a interesting thought.

It's fine. I thought it was clear that no one thought this was like the END of the World serious but maybe i could have communicated my intentions better.
Post edited November 28, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
Posted November 29, 2019
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SarahGabriella: Exception to what? You think they can give you free stuff in a game and maintain servers for free?
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ChrisGamer300: Pfft, ofc not ! Simply don't make those games. Sorry but you can't have it both ways and claim you care for drm free and good practices then make an exception for your own games like Gwent.

I don't expect free stuff and never will but you should always practice what you preach and therefore i prefer CDPR not going down further this road.
Go down what road? You make no fucking sense. And what "both ways"? And Gwent doesnt have DRM.
Posted November 29, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: Pfft, ofc not ! Simply don't make those games. Sorry but you can't have it both ways and claim you care for drm free and good practices then make an exception for your own games like Gwent.

I don't expect free stuff and never will but you should always practice what you preach and therefore i prefer CDPR not going down further this road.
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SarahGabriella: Go down what road? You make no fucking sense. And what "both ways"? And Gwent doesnt have DRM.
I have already said what i meant, i would prefer if CDP stay away from Gwents business model in the future and as i said you shouldn't claim to stand for drm free and good practices if you make games like Gwent an online game that is what i meant by both ways.
It's actually really fucking simple either you care for drm free or you do not. GOG was supposed to be DRM FREE once without all connection and online requirement bullshit but they decided to make Gwent which was once against their principles.

In the end it's CDP's store and they make the rules, i'm happy as long as they offer drm free and offline installers and i hupe they don't move closer to gwents business model.
Posted November 29, 2019
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richlind33: That's what the internet is for. Unless you're too lazy to type a few words into a search bar and hit [Enter]. In which case you expect someone else to do it for you.
This can also mean that you lied earlier and you do not have access to such tools. Because you said ...

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richlind33: It's not an answer I consider acceptable when we have access to tools that allow us to check sources in a matter of minutes. But that's me. o.O
Why delay an answer that takes " a matter of minutes" for so long? On the other hand, if you do possess access to such tools, why don't you take that "a few minutes" to help the community instead of wasting everyone's time and energy?

In summary, why criticize someone for something you were not capable of doing yourself for 2 days even tho you said it takes minutes? Why not chose to contribute to the community instead of doing unnecessary criticism?

I am eagerly waiting for your response.
Posted November 29, 2019
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SarahGabriella: Go down what road? You make no fucking sense. And what "both ways"? And Gwent doesnt have DRM.
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ChrisGamer300: I have already said what i meant, i would prefer if CDP stay away from Gwents business model in the future and as i said you shouldn't claim to stand for drm free and good practices if you make games like Gwent an online game that is what i meant by both ways.
It's actually really fucking simple either you care for drm free or you do not. GOG was supposed to be DRM FREE once without all connection and online requirement bullshit but they decided to make Gwent which was once against their principles.

In the end it's CDP's store and they make the rules, i'm happy as long as they offer drm free and offline installers and i hupe they don't move closer to gwents business model.
How are you gonna make a multiplayer game offline? Youre a troll...
Posted November 29, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: I have already said what i meant, i would prefer if CDP stay away from Gwents business model in the future and as i said you shouldn't claim to stand for drm free and good practices if you make games like Gwent an online game that is what i meant by both ways.
It's actually really fucking simple either you care for drm free or you do not. GOG was supposed to be DRM FREE once without all connection and online requirement bullshit but they decided to make Gwent which was once against their principles.

In the end it's CDP's store and they make the rules, i'm happy as long as they offer drm free and offline installers and i hupe they don't move closer to gwents business model.
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SarahGabriella: How are you gonna make a multiplayer game offline? Youre a troll...
No i'm not, you don't have to make a multiplayer game it's simply as easy as that but they willingly choose to make one that's only online in a store that supposedly drm free. Yes i know the game is F2P and yes i know it's not a big deal..yet.

It's not a difficult concept to understand why some people don't shower praise over CDP when they make a game like Gwent with MTX and always online components while they have been slowly throwing away principles one by one over the years.
Posted November 29, 2019
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SarahGabriella: How are you gonna make a multiplayer game offline? Youre a troll...
How old are you? If you know nothing about the period before internet became mainstream, at least don't be an ignorant infant and look up multiplayer / LAN / hotseat / split screen on wikipedia.
Posted November 30, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: I have never said it invalidates something but it does make it sound like something you say to look good rather than being genuine about it, an exception here and there is fine but it does worry me maybe i'm a bit paranoid but we both know EA, Activision, 2K and Bethesda didn't start out as horrible as they are now and i need to make this fully clear that CDP are nowhere near these monstrosities and will hopefully never be it's just an example of how the future can turn out.
That's why one should be cautious, and not let paranoia rule over them. :)
(I know I know...easier said than done)

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ChrisGamer300: Yes but then the store would lose relevance, why would anyone come here for drm'ed games unless it's a future exclusive. I would be surprised if GOG still was fine if they stopped caring about drm but a interesting thought.
I think many more come here for low prices and the support rather than just drm free, tbh.....sadly, people like us are becoming more and more rare.

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ChrisGamer300: It's fine. I thought it was clear that no one thought this was like the END of the World serious but maybe i could have communicated my intentions better.
No sweat.....have a good one.
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: That's what the internet is for. Unless you're too lazy to type a few words into a search bar and hit [Enter]. In which case you expect someone else to do it for you.
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Engerek01: This can also mean that you lied earlier and you do not have access to such tools. Because you said ...

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richlind33: It's not an answer I consider acceptable when we have access to tools that allow us to check sources in a matter of minutes. But that's me. o.O
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Engerek01: Why delay an answer that takes " a matter of minutes" for so long? On the other hand, if you do possess access to such tools, why don't you take that "a few minutes" to help the community instead of wasting everyone's time and energy?

In summary, why criticize someone for something you were not capable of doing yourself for 2 days even tho you said it takes minutes? Why not chose to contribute to the community instead of doing unnecessary criticism?

I am eagerly waiting for your response.
The "tools" in question here are called search engines. And the OP was corrected within a few hours of being started -- long before I showed up.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/cyberpunk_and_micropayments/post6

Any more questions? lol
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: The "tools" in question here are called search engines. And the OP was corrected within a few hours of being started -- long before I showed up.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/cyberpunk_and_micropayments/post6

Any more questions? lol
That's not a tool, it is an other source of information.

Also, in the post you provided, the OP was NOT corrected but provided with an answer from that source, which none of them were your contribution to this topic. Your initial post is way after that post so utterly useless to the discussion.

To sum it up, the OP asked a valid question and received some solid answers while your contribution to the discussion is less than ZERO.

So my question remains unanswered. Why criticize someone for something you were not capable of doing yourself?
Post edited December 01, 2019 by Engerek01
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: The "tools" in question here are called search engines. And the OP was corrected within a few hours of being started -- long before I showed up.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/cyberpunk_and_micropayments/post6

Any more questions? lol
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Engerek01: That's not a tool, it is an other source of information.

Also, in the post you provided, the OP was NOT corrected but provided with an answer from that source, which none of them were your contribution to this topic. Your initial post is way after that post so utterly useless to the discussion.

To sum it up, the OP asked a valid question and received some solid answers while your contribution to the discussion is less than ZERO.

So my question remains unanswered. Why criticize someone for something you were not capable of doing yourself?
Are you feeling OK? Your responses seem feverish and delusional, so perhaps you should see a doctor. Get well soon!
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: Are you feeling OK? Your responses seem feverish and delusional, so perhaps you should see a doctor. Get well soon!
To be fair, he does have somewhat of a point on one aspect....one should always try doing what they suggest others to do and set a good example(in this case posting corrections) whenever possible.

Lead by example, as they say.....:)
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: Are you feeling OK? Your responses seem feverish and delusional, so perhaps you should see a doctor. Get well soon!
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GameRager: To be fair, he does have somewhat of a point on one aspect....one should always try doing what they suggest others to do and set a good example(in this case posting corrections) whenever possible.

Lead by example, as they say.....:)
That was his point, not mine, and a rather pointless point as the OP was corrected long before I showed up. My point is the OP has a habit of posting dubious links, in this case expecting someone else to determine it's veracity.

If you're lonely, start a conversation thread.
Posted December 01, 2019
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richlind33: That was his point, not mine, and a rather pointless point as the OP was corrected long before I showed up. My point is the OP has a habit of posting dubious links, in this case expecting someone else to determine it's veracity.
Fair enough....I was just musing in general and offering some common sense advice just to offer it. :)

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richlind33: If you're lonely, start a conversation thread.
I did....not many replied. o.0
Posted December 02, 2019
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richlind33: Are you feeling OK? Your responses seem feverish and delusional, so perhaps you should see a doctor. Get well soon!
You said it takes a few minutes to test a source.

You failed to deliver that promise.

Hehe. I will really enjoy reading your reply explaining HOW this is being delusional and feverish. But this time please at least try to show some logic in your example or sources, which you keep failing delivering so far.
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