well that's normally you! what a twist here, worthy of m night shlamadingdong

Although the player has an influence here. First, nobody forced the player to complete an optional objective to get this chip. Second, there was a line to tell about corp involvement that potentially could prevent violence.

Milk runs going wrong is pretty much a Cyberpunk trope tho ;)

I don't really mind that, Witcher 3 did it too occasionally, with the apparent "good" solution often having the worse outcome.

But I agree that it shouldn't happen like in the Demo too often, just enough to not always have a predictable good or bad way to do things.

Dunno if the game will have stealth elements but I hope that most quests really will have a peaceful or more diplomatic solution, but CDPR are pretty good at this in my opinion, i'm not worried.

I don't know, I think it's a question of balance, on of the thing I preferred in Witcher games compared to other "choice'ish" games like Mass Effect, is that for several choices there wasn't really a "good" and a "bad" choice.

While I love choice and the possibility to choose different approach or different gameplay style, I consider that it's not necessarily to have said choice every time or that you choice necessarily always change the outcome.

Just because you chose the "non-violent" approach, it doesn't mean that you will always be able to get away with it, maybe you will end up with the "violent" resolution anyway.

That's IMHO a problem with the newer Deus Ex, they are so obsessed with "multiple resolution" and "non-violent/pacifist runs" that it sometime become ridiculous and IMHO damage the immersion/surprise. Every time you see a guard you know, without a doubt, that if you look 2 meters away you will find a ventilation shaft allowing you to avoid it, that for every locked door there is a computer somewhere with an email allowing you to open it (or another ventilation shaft, often both), that for every armed guy you talk to there is a dialogue option allowing you to avoid the fight (unless it's one of the three bosses...).

I also hope for stealth gameplay.

As the "narrator" in the demo said: "Remember - we've chosen to buy the tech, not steal it."
In my eyes, the "steal it" part implements, that there is a stealth path...of course, it could also just be the narrator's choice of words with absolute no regard to the actual possibilities in the game.
Anyway - we'll have to wait and see.
Well, sure. And it would be ok, if I was the one who botched it.
I just don't like these pre-set screw-ups, where the decision (or just the opportunity to screw up through faults of my own) gets taken away from me.
Just my 2cts.

Watched it with little skipping and besides a guy that yells "my legs" right after his head gets blown away all looking pretty amazing. :)

Headless guy says my legs but forgets to say my head got me laughing hard.

And? That does not make cyberpunk "dark".

1) Yeah, but how do you try a diplomatic approach...without the 50k creditchip from the corp?

The narrator of the demo is quite unambiguous with his statement regarding this:

Narrator: "The agent gave us the money to buy the bot we need from the gang. By chosing to call the Militech Agent earlier, we have now opened up a non-violent path through this quest. Of course, we could try and keep the money, but that would mean we'd have to take the merchandise by force. Which requires a lot of firepower."

2) There was? I must have missed it...

Meeting with the Corporate Agent:
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Correct.
Got a proposition for ya.
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Calm the hell down. Sheesh.
Got information you could use.
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Yep. All by my lonesome.
No. Got a friend watching over me.
Lemme go. Then we'll talk.
Grab the gun.
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No idea what you're talking about.
I know lots of assholes. And most of 'em talk.
Lemme go. Then we'll talk.
Grab the gun.
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Got an offer for you.
I'm working for Dexter DeShawn.
Now, no reason at all (fight).
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Pay me, and I'll nab your thieves for you.
We can recover your gear together.
I'll help you find your mole.
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I'm in.
What's the catch?
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At this point after the meeting the narrator explains how this meeting enables us to approach the quest peacefully.

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Arriving at the hide-out:
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We go in guns hot.
Let's try to get along.
Start off nice, then...
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No faith in my charme?
Chattered enough.
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Here to see Royce.
Just open the fuck up.
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Want to buy a spiderbot.
Where's the boss?
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Jackie, sit down.
What's up, Jack?
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Take the inhaler.
I'll pass.
What is this shit?
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The bot - need to see it.
How'd you get your hands on all the Militech gear?
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I'll take it as is.
How much?
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Eddies are on this chip.
Fuck you.
Draw weapon.
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Dex sent me.
I'm my own boss.
Draw weapon.
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Draw weapon.
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Fund's right here.
Know what? Changed my mind.
Cred's yours, with some additional info.
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At this point, the virus on the chip activates, and the shooting begins.

Where exactly did you see the line about corp involvement, that could (potentially) prevent the violence?

'Psycho borgs chromed out with military grade hardware worth millions'* really ought to be able to detect an opponent using mantis blades to climb and attach herself to a wall...

* 'The guys we're about to meet are dangerous. They are members of the Maelstrom gang, and their obsession with body modification goes way beyond even this world's standards. On their path to becoming machines, they don't shy away from even the most extreme measures.'

With your own 50k.

The last one: Cred's yours, with some additional info.

One would surely think so. ;)
Hm, but aren't V and Jack on the lowest rung of the ladder to success?
Where do they get the 50k from?

EDIT: remember - V couldn't even pay the Ripper-Doc (a lousy E$1800 or so?)
EDIT 2: just watched it again - (20:26) V has a whopping 140 eddies in her wallet.
Well, it's a possibility...I'll give you that.
However - could also be the info where to find Dexter DeShawn - and make some powerful equipped new friends with that info.
That's the thing - we don't know for sure if there is an option to avoid the firefight.
And even if it avoids this particular fight - ratting out either Dex or the corp will definitely lead to some other fight in the future.

Maelstrom replace vocal cords with voice implant which can be noticed around 36:36 (https://www.youtube.com/embed/vjF9GgrY9c0), so technically only neck is required. Also watch the jawless guy in background around 35:01, which maps on this trailer: https://www.youtube.com/embed/8X2kIfS6fb8 at 0:50

True...as I said before - we'll have to wait and see. My fingers are crossed. ;)

Oh, I hope for the best.
Because I really want to play that game...it's just that things like these will determine whether I buy the game on release day, or at a later point and at a reduced price.