adaliabooks: It's good fun, takes a bit of getting into and you definitely need to read the manual if you want to have any chance of knowing what's going on.
I'd say more 4x than strategy, it reminds me a bit of CK2 (which as I remember, you have spent a considerable amount of time with, so you'd probably like it) but on a bit more basic scale.
It's quite slow; waiting for fleets and troops to build, waiting for new facilities to build or arrive at their destination, waiting for missions to complete, basically a lot of waiting ;)

l0rdtr3k: Where can I get the Steamless version of Morrowind and Oblivion?

adaliabooks: Well, I say waiting. I tend to just bump the speed up to fast until I get a notification or two of something interesting happening, slow it down again to deal with them, and then bump the speed up till the next thing happens.
But building things, travelling between sectors and other actions take time. It's measured in days (which are kind of like a turn, something finishes or happens pretty much every day or other day for me) and it can take 100 days to build a capital ship or travel to a far away sector.

But having never really played a 4x game other than Civilisation until I played CK2 I can definitely see that this is the kind of thing Paradox's games evolved from.

ElTerprise: I bought retail version of them years ago but it could apparently the Elder Scrolls Anthology also includes non-Versions of both games.

Possibly - especially the speed-up function which is also very important in Paradox games (although more important in EUIV than CK2 imho). I think the waiting you described is a real thing (in lack of a better word) present in real-time 4x games.

l0rdtr3k: As tempting as it is,I don't know if I should import especially with the dollar-real trade is high. It's 3 reais for 1 dollar today and it's rising each day.

ElTerprise: Possibly - especially the speed-up function which is also very important in Paradox games (although more important in EUIV than CK2 imho). I think the waiting you described is a real thing (in lack of a better word) present in real-time 4x games.

ElTerprise: I'm sorry but this is the only way for new ones. Maybe you can find older retail copies of them....

adaliabooks: Yeah, I would say it's just a mechanic of real time 4x games, you need to be able to speed up and slow down the action to enjoy it.
It's a bit annoying that you can't pause and manage things (pausing pops up a big dialog that stops the game until you close it), but on the slowest speed setting you're pretty much guaranteed to deal with anything you need to before any new events pop up.
If you enjoy CK2 I would say you'll like it.

In fact, I think I'll go pick up where I left off :)

l0rdtr3k: Consolation hug?

EndreWhiteMane: Aloha all.
Hope everyone's having a nice restful Sunday.
I'm watching it rain right now and enjoying it. ;)

moonshineshadow: *welcome hug* Watching the rain is really relaxing, I did that and took a nice nap :D
So what are your plans for today?

EndreWhiteMane: Aloha all.
Hope everyone's having a nice restful Sunday.
I'm watching it rain right now and enjoying it. ;)

moonshineshadow: *welcome hug* Watching the rain is really relaxing, I did that and took a nice nap :D
So what are your plans for today?

l0rdtr3k: Boring sunday hug,Ms.moon?

EndreWhiteMane: *return bear hug*
Starting to play AI War, looks nice. Awesome music and decent graphics.
Just starting the tutorial so I don't know much else yet. :)

EndreWhiteMane: Hi Crow, had a taste for Sci-Fi today. I would be playing GalCiv 2 if not for Stardock.
AI War I've had for a while and just now trying it, loads of fun so far. ;)