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Posted June 26, 2021
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Seems like a detailed, well-written and believable response. Problem being that it took him so terribly long to come out with it.
Either way, hope it'll go some way towards fixing things, because someone (not to mention someone with his impact on his field) shouldn't have their professional activity harmed by claims that are neither directly related to their behavior in a professional capacity nor serious and well proven enough to get them sentenced in court.
Posted June 26, 2021
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Cavalary: Problem being that it took him so terribly long to come out with it.
He waited until just before the statute of limitations ran out. The time was spent preparing the court case.

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A long list of digital evidence and witness testimony has been compiled over the past year. With that in hand, I filed a formal response last week, not to silence Karissa and Kelly, but to encourage them to speak more.
There's gonna be hell to pay!
Posted June 26, 2021
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fronzelneekburm: Yes, Planetescape Tournament
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frost0: Ah, an unreleased fighting RPG. Sort of Street Fighter meets D&D. :D
Almost as good an idea as Portal Wombat.
Post edited June 26, 2021 by Breja
Posted June 26, 2021
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I always was against Cancel Culture, as a Law student I believe everyone is innocent until proven otherwise, nobody should be treated that way just for be informally accused in a social media, I really hope the studios like Techland, Gato Studios amd Paradox being sued, so finally somebody give it a punishment for take side before a proper investigation.
Posted June 26, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Chis Avellone is no hero. Rather, he's an SJW propagandist --- just like his colleagues who are making allegations against him.

It's great watching the SJWS turn on each other, as they are responsible for having ruined the gaming industry as we knew it.

And if he was innocent of the allegations, then chances are he would have denied them right off the bat, immediately when they first emerged, rather than waiting eons to do so, and only after his lawyers gave him "permission" to do so.
People have denied right away and get dogpiled worse.. Its the classic witch hunt/force someone to submit a false guilty plea to stop whats going on tactic .. Just saying
Posted June 26, 2021
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Breja: Do you mean Planescape: Torment?
Planyourescape: Tournament!

Edit: I did not notice the ninjas of old, but it is said great shinobi think alike.

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Breja: Almost as good an idea as Portal Wombat.
Parody games should be a genre (not loners like Postal), if you ask me. Lots of laughs, hopefully good gameplay. What's there not to like (if you're not a published or IP holder)?
Post edited June 26, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
Posted June 26, 2021
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I hope he spent that year of silence working on the Wasteland II novel. It's been coming soon for years. Wasteland II: Director's Cut owners can see for themselves.
Posted June 26, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Chis Avellone is no hero. Rather, he's an SJW propagandist --- just like his colleagues who are making allegations against him.

It's great watching the SJWS turn on each other, as they are responsible for having ruined the gaming industry as we knew it.

And if he was innocent of the allegations, then chances are he would have denied them right off the bat, immediately when they first emerged, rather than waiting eons to do so, and only after his lawyers gave him "permission" to do so.
Good to know, still he shouldn't be cancelled due to some fake accusations
he should have been still fired thou at least from Vampi 2 :P
Post edited June 26, 2021 by Orkhepaj
Posted June 26, 2021
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ChrisGamer300: ...fuck opportunists who make up crimes just to cancel people they don't like...
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Posted June 26, 2021
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Good. I don't know the details of the case though.

I hope a huge bipartisan movement against cancel culture appears soon. A lot of people can see that this mix of politics and technology has led us down a dark path. Obviously a lot of people still see cancel culture as a useful tool for their political ends, but my hope is that more and more people will realize that this hurts people a lot more than it helps them.

Courts should be the places where crimes are punished by professionals. Mob justice on internet forums is a major regression back to the bad old days.
Post edited June 26, 2021 by -Mithridates-
Posted June 26, 2021
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-Mithridates-: Good. I don't know the details of the case though.

I hope a huge bipartisan movement against cancel culture appears soon. A lot of people can see that this mix of politics and technology has led us down a dark path. Obviously a lot of people still see cancel culture as a useful tool for their political ends, but my hope is that more and more people will realize that this hurts people a lot more than it helps them.

Courts should be the places where crimes are punished by professionals. Mob justice on internet forums is a major regression back to the bad old days.
I'm hoping that with you but.... it seems this is going on since the 50's ( i'm basing this on that obnoxious Isaac Asimov quote about how democracy is defined as that your ignorance is just as good as my knowledge )

But if we count in China i'm sure there is indeed hope, at least they had the nerves to banish the e coin ( next to some minor races )
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Posted June 27, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Chis Avellone is no hero. Rather, he's an SJW propagandist --- just like his colleagues who are making allegations against him.
Do we need to reset the clock again?
Posted June 27, 2021
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-Mithridates-: Courts should be the places where crimes are punished by professionals. Mob justice on internet forums is a major regression back to the bad old days.
yep , like those dvoting botters here who cant accept different opinions
Posted June 27, 2021
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-Mithridates-: Good. I don't know the details of the case though.

I hope a huge bipartisan movement against cancel culture appears soon. A lot of people can see that this mix of politics and technology has led us down a dark path. Obviously a lot of people still see cancel culture as a useful tool for their political ends, but my hope is that more and more people will realize that this hurts people a lot more than it helps them.

Courts should be the places where crimes are punished by professionals. Mob justice on internet forums is a major regression back to the bad old days.
Mob justice isn’t something technological any more than the gun is the killer. Technology has just “empowered” this. The underlying human traits have not changed. The “inclusion” culture which excludes those that don’t agree, the equal rights movement wishing merely shifts the weight of power. Facism is not confined to one rule set, it works equally well for the far left etc. The groups, names, allegiances vary slightly, human nature doesn’t.
Posted June 27, 2021
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KetobaK: I believe everyone is innocent until proven otherwise...
Well not is but should be regarded as. ;-)

Yeah, that was a great achievement of civilisation. Can it make some culprits go free? Definitely. But it's worth it, unless we want to go back to the witch trials of the Middle Ages.
As Avallone himself wrote - accusations should be taken seriously and not be disregarded. On the other hand "taking them seriously" and "believing them out of hand" are two different things. Life is complicated. Sometimes some is simply being an asshole, sometimes someone is accused of being an asshole to harm them, and sometimes views of what asshole behaviour is simply clash.

So hearing every side and doing some proper investigation was a thing. Sadly, especially in cases like this, we seem to be back at torches and pitchforks mobs and lynching, at least in a social way.

I ask myself where this comes from. This need and joy of destroying somebody, conclusive evidence or not. This is simply scapegoating - people needing somebody to be "it", to be held responsible for all the shit in their lives, and of course it resolves nothing - creating a need for more scapegoats. And prominent figures are more satisfying when their heads roll...
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