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From the Cyberpunk reddit:
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What was the controversy about again?
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Swedrami: From the Cyberpunk reddit:
i.redd.it/4x7cn1ua1ej31.png

What was the controversy about again?
You just killed it.
Speaking of body types... this reminds of the various incentives going on to remove the words "mother" and "father" from any laws and legal documents and replace them with just "parent" so they don't discriminate the various modern parent combinations.
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falloutttt: What make you think you're so wise, friend ? Lived many lives ?

You're no different than anyone else. Don't think you know what's best for everyone.

The problem is in your insecurity, therefor you have the need to chose a side. So if you look for a problem, look in yourself, not in others.

cheers! :)
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LootHunter: You're no different than anyone else. Don't think you know what's best for everyone.

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Linko64: I'm honestly stunned that in the age of communication people just like to shout at each other, then go after people.
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LootHunter: Why? People do exactly what environment allowes them to do. Especially considering that mainstream media practically encourages that type of beharior.
*looks at his own profile picture*

Yes
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Demitrix2k: Gamer journalism ladies and gentlemen.

I like how all of this has gone from talking about cyberpunk leaning away from gender selection to body type selection instead, and that has brought out the loonies who spin their conspiracy theories about trans people being a blight on humanity and indoctrinating kids to get on hormones, i can't imagine the seething rage they experience when they realize just how trans the cyberpunk genre is.
Some journalism, while crude, has some nuggets of truth here and there.....also I trust some of it more than most MSM sites which all usually lean one way or another for clicks.



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Swedrami: From the Cyberpunk reddit:
i.redd.it/4x7cn1ua1ej31.png

What was the controversy about again?
So it was all over nothing, as I figured.....thanks for this info. :)
Post edited August 29, 2019 by GameRager
Ahh, here's the drama thread!

re: pandering

It's not pandering, you galaxy brains. If anything, it's the opposite: give it a few years, perverts will start crying about how body modification is cultural appropriation and only they should be able to access it (I mean, this is kinda happening with body hair removal, which women have to pay for but sex offenders get for free in some places and even demand to get it performed on them by unwilling female victims). Sex offenders also count on being the only exceptions to sex segregation to commit crimes of opportunity; once everyone can be big and tough (or small and tough), they're shit out of luck.

Remember when there was a shitstorm about the in-game ad, and every game journo assumed the model portrayed was a man? Exactly. In their world, dick = male = sex offender, because that's what they and their friends are, and no-dick = female = victim. But from the context of the picture, how it uses a prominent dick on an otherwise ideal female form to advertize a customizable drink, it's obvious that the dick is artificial, it's the thing that's customized. "Add delicious extra flavor to our already delicious drink, just like we added this sexy dick to this already sexy woman." In 2019, female aggression mostly hides behind affirmative action - also a fertile soil for perverts stacking on privilege. There no one to leech off and no one to creep on in Cyberpunk.

Do you select your character's chromosomes? No? Then it's not sex and definitely not "gender", it's body type. No one gives a damn about how you "identify" -- everyone's identity is a 2048-bit integer, and you have to maintain authenticity / anonymity as the situation demands. (I guess you can identify as 'deadbeef' if that's a part of your uuid. Everyone is deadbeef, really - it's just that kind of world.) You can attach a second head and pump your ass full of industrial silicone, and people will still try to identify you and associate your debts and your crimes with you. (Also, pin their own crimes on you.) No "it's hate speech to mention how i raped kids because i changed my name, teehee".

Once again: perverts are shit out of luck in that world. When cyberpunk happens irl, they won't like it at all.

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I'm very happy with sex-independent voice choices, too bad there are only two - what if I hate both? In some new-gen big RPG (Eternity? Tyranny?), every female voice for the protagonist (they had a bunch) were bitchy, but there were no restrictions so I just picked a 'male' voice for my female character which sounds exactly like I sound to myself live.

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Ueber: Refering to the WHO defenition of gender: Gender is social, Sex is biological
You're about 5 years too late. Gender is now "your feefees" and sex is "nothing".
Post edited August 29, 2019 by Starmaker
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windows984ever: I'm Muslim and what is transgerdre?
https://youtu.be/LemG0cvc4oU
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.
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windows984ever: I'm Muslim and what is transgerdre?
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samuraigaiden: https://youtu.be/LemG0cvc4oU
Lola is about a transvestite, not a transgender.

Prejudice against either one is equally as repugnant.
Post edited August 29, 2019 by tinyE
It's the same on every planet.
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stg83: I have attached a screenshot of the relevant part of the interview.
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LootHunter: So, basically devs just call characters sex a "body type". I'm not sure that tey'll be able to sit on two chairs with this one.
It almost sounds like you want to be offended about something, but aren't sure what. lol
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windows984ever: I'm Muslim and what is transgerdre?
ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc80tFJpTuo
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Darvond: If a man wants to wear a dress, be called Susan, and color his hair green, what am I to stop him? Biologically, he's still a guy but that won't stop himself. And why should anyone? There's no harm in it.
The people who claim that there are *no* problems with respect to gender fluidity are almost as ignorant and/or dishonest as the people who demonize it. Both camps are populated with intolerant extremists that have worn out their welcome.

"Gender" and "sex" can be synonymous, depending on usage, which raises issues that need to be addressed by people who are capable of and willing to engage in reasoned discussion aimed at finding practical solutions. People from either of the above mentioned camps NEED NOT APPLY.
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lonewolfgk: Well thats it, bye bye CD Project Red.

Luckily i did not pre order your Cyberpunk game.

Will NOT buy your game anymore.

I cannot believe CD Project Red went WOKE .

Keep your game, you lost my support and money.

*Moded, hate speech and discrimination are not allowed on the forum.
Whatever you are saying, I bet is something stupid.
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Darvond: If a man wants to wear a dress, be called Susan, and color his hair green, what am I to stop him? Biologically, he's still a guy but that won't stop himself. And why should anyone? There's no harm in it.
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richlind33: The people who claim that there are *no* problems with respect to gender fluidity are almost as ignorant and/or dishonest as the people who demonize it. Both camps are populated with intolerant extremists that have worn out their welcome.

"Gender" and "sex" can be synonymous, depending on usage, which raises issues that need to be addressed by people who are capable of and willing to engage in reasoned discussion aimed at finding practical solutions. People from either of the above mentioned camps NEED NOT APPLY.
The only issue that needs to be raised is a copy of the Oxford dictionary, so people quit using words in invalid contexts. :B Lightly whack them on the head; that or English needs to seriously evolve its pronoun game; many languages have androgynous descriptors out the wazoo,
Post edited August 30, 2019 by Darvond