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omega64:
Don't encourage her.
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I've gone ahead and removed the game from my wishlist. Sloppy game design (a permanent missable) in what I consider to be a secondary genre for my (me primary being turn-based RPGs) is enough to remove the game from my wishlist.
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omega64: Or stop acting that way as the stars are optional. You don't need them to get the rwgular ending.
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dtgreene: It still feels like sloppy game design to have a permanent missible in a game, and is enough of a reason to remove a game that isn't in my primary genre (Braid isn't a turn based RPG) from my wishlist.

(Also, what's a "rwgular" ending?)
If you don't like platformers, you won't like the game. As a platformer, I found it to be ok. The puzzle time mechanic made it a bit more interesting. The 2 hour ride to the star is just a douche move on Blow's part.

While I'm glad I got to play the game to see what all the fuss was about, I'm more glad I didn't pay more than around 75c in an Indie Bundle. Good soundtrack though.
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dtgreene: It still feels like sloppy game design to have a permanent missible in a game, and is enough of a reason to remove a game that isn't in my primary genre (Braid isn't a turn based RPG) from my wishlist.

(Also, what's a "rwgular" ending?)
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lepke1979: If you don't like platformers, you won't like the game. As a platformer, I found it to be ok. The puzzle time mechanic made it a bit more interesting. The 2 hour ride to the star is just a douche move on Blow's part.

While I'm glad I got to play the game to see what all the fuss was about, I'm more glad I didn't pay more than around 75c in an Indie Bundle. Good soundtrack though.
I actually do like platformers; I just don't like them as much as turn-based RPGs.

Also, I don't want to reward sloppy game design.
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dtgreene: Also, I don't want to reward sloppy game design.
Aren't you the same person who said that they wouldn't buy a game, even a DRM-free copy, if it was available with DRM on any website?
You take life much too seriously.

Either you enjoy it or you don't. No need to whine about it before you've even played it.
Post edited May 29, 2016 by zeogold
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dtgreene: Also, I don't want to reward sloppy game design.
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zeogold: Aren't you the same person who said that they wouldn't buy a game, even a DRM-free copy, if it was available with DRM on any website?
You take life much too seriously.
I didn't actually say that. I was just asking whether anybody did go that far.
Edit: It ain't worth it.
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Post edited May 29, 2016 by zeogold
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ZFR: OK, instead of wasting more time here I'm going back to watch grass grow... er, cloud move.
probably too late now, but in this case cheat engine could be justified in that it has a function that increases game speed
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Post edited May 29, 2016 by Master911
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ZFR: OK, instead of wasting more time here I'm going back to watch grass grow... er, cloud move.
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Master911: probably too late now, but in this case cheat engine could be justified in that it has a function that increases game speed
Thanks, but no cheats for me. Not even for this reason.
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zeogold: Edit: It ain't worth it.
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Please don't wipe your posts like that.
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zeogold: Edit: It ain't worth it.
-post wiped-
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dtgreene: Please don't wipe your posts like that.
Sloppy conversations (irrelevant posts and circular arguments) in what he considers to be a secondary genre for him (his primary genre being puzzles) is enough for zeogold to remove his post from the thread.
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zeogold: Edit: It ain't worth it.
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dtgreene: Please don't wipe your posts like that.
I don't feel like fighting with you. I've participated in enough derailments as it is thanks to your insanity.
Post edited May 29, 2016 by zeogold
So I just finished the game with 3 stars only. The ending was... weird.

Now off to collect the remaining ones. I hope I get something better then. I'll probably have to google a bit to find out what on earth is this all about anyway.

Although I love puzzle platformers, this was not my cup of tea. Some clever puzzles, but some of them felt slightly unfair.

I also enjoy non-chronological twisted stories, but this one felt like it was put together from some teenager's "deep thoughts" blog. As I said, I'd probably google about it a bit after I finish the real ending, in case I missed some real clever allegory that gives this whole thing some sense.

Not bad, but disappointing nonetheless.
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dtgreene: (Also, what's a "rwgular" ending?)
It's an ending that makes you want to rewind.
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ZFR: So I just finished the game with 3 stars only. The ending was... weird.

Now off to collect the remaining ones. I hope I get something better then. I'll probably have to google a bit to find out what on earth is this all about anyway.

Although I love puzzle platformers, this was not my cup of tea. Some clever puzzles, but some of them felt slightly unfair.

I also enjoy non-chronological twisted stories, but this one felt like it was put together from some teenager's "deep thoughts" blog. As I said, I'd probably google about it a bit after I finish the real ending, in case I missed some real clever allegory that gives this whole thing some sense.

Not bad, but disappointing nonetheless.
You won't like it. This was the first big indie darling, that back in 2008 showed what could be done with games outside of a studio system. How it could be a little more thought provoking, and gave us this idea of authorial intent in our games. That a lone developer could deliver us his vision, untainted by focus groups and corporate mandates. It was a very culturally significant game and it should be recognized for that.

But the game is not that great.

It was great for its time when it was something new, God knows I loved it, but if I played it now having experienced better puzzle platformers, and intellectually minded games not so superficial in its themes, I'm certain I wouldn't have the same opinion of it I had back then. Maybe I wouldn't even like it, who knows.

So don't expect your opinion to be swayed, stars or no stars. Gaming has gotten better since then, and what Braid offers just isn't as impressive as it used to be. Just look at The Witness. I haven't played it yet, but from what I hear it seems to be fairly similar to Braid in its design, if not its mechanics, and while it was praised it was quickly forgotten by most. That seems to be the same reaction you had here.

As for the stars ending, I'd say just look it up on youtube, don't force yourself to replay the entire game for it if you didn't like it very much. If you go ahead regardless, understanding it shouldn't be a problem, if I recall correctly they add another paragraph to the ending section that practically beats you over the head with it.