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KiNgBrAdLeY7: It's back on sale, now. I was wondering, is it actually fixed, this time round? Oh, and this price... And all those little, overpriced, scattershotted tiny, buggy/annoying DLCs...

I always struggle to complete a series i started, but i cannot purchase garbage, especially if it is overpriced. Anyone knows more on it and is kind enough to let me know and help me decide, whether to allow myself be fleeced one final time, or skip the sh*t entirely altogether...?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. That offer for getting entire series by only buying the Knight game, up until november 16, sounds tempting though...
Your dilemma is solved.

Even Warner Bros acknowledge their re-release is bad and offer full refunds.

http://www.neowin.net/news/full-refunds-offered-to-batman-arkham-knight-pc-buyers-following-persisting-issues
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Crosmando: Or it's a good argument that you can't recognize jokes:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=commit+sudoku
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R8V9F5A2: Yes joking about suicide is very funny.
For some people, yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_MT9sazf3g

But people just make these jokes to make other people laugh. I don't think it is done to trivialize suicide. It is done with noble intentions. Making a joke about something is also a way some people cope with horrible things in life.
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2011/august/humor-coping-horror-080111.html
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Crosmando: So not only is this game capeshit, it's twitchy console action capeshit, and not only that it's broken twitchy console action capeshit.

Lol, whoever actually takes "Batman" or any superhero seriously in 2015 needs to commit sudoku NOW
I heard the game is shit from many sources. That is too bad because the previous Batman games are amazing.
Post edited November 02, 2015 by monkeydelarge
Announcement on Refunds
31 OCTOBER - YORICK
We are very sorry that many of our customers continue to be unhappy with the PC version of Batman: Arkham Knight. We worked hard to get the game to live up to the standard you deserve but understand that many of you are still experiencing issues.

Until the end of 2015, we will be offering a full refund on Batman: Arkham Knight PC, regardless of how long you have played the product. You can also return the Season Pass along with the main game (but not separately). For those of you that hold onto the game, we are going to continue to address the issues that we can fix and talk to you about the issues that we cannot fix.


Thank you,

Warner Bros Interactive Entertainment


EDIT BY VALVE: For users who were having trouble submitting a refund for the game purchased on Steam, please try your refund submission again. The issue should have now been resolved.
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I want to know WHY anyone could actually like superhero fiction media. It's just so mindbogglingly bad, and it becomes even more bad the more they try to make it "serious" (ie Batman).
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Crosmando: I want to know WHY anyone could actually like superhero fiction media.
Because stories of people who have abilities way beyond our own will always fascinate us. Because many of these heroes are broken in some way, which makes us relate to them. And most importantly, because sometimes, they become our inspiration.
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Crosmando: I want to know WHY anyone could actually like superhero fiction media.
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LesterKnight99: Because stories of people who have abilities way beyond our own will always fascinate us. Because many of these heroes are broken in some way, which makes us relate to them. And most importantly, because sometimes, they become our inspiration.
You can have "Stories about people with superhuman abilities" without said person a) wearing a cape and skin tight colored uniform, b) having a silly name like "Batman" or "Spiderman", or c) having a dumb moral compass which either falls into "righteous fighter for the innocent" or "I am literally Hitler and like killing newborn infants".
Post edited November 02, 2015 by Crosmando
Batman is NOT a superhero, technically, on the contrary. Batman is a person without superpowers, from whom life took away everything from him, including precious people he loved, his vast money and fortune being the only exception. He became who he is by training himself in extremely hard ways and willingly, becomes a figure who is HATED, instead of loved, even though he serves the greater good.

Some people might relate... Some people mostly might relate to the villains. I myself like pretty much Two-Face Harvey. Person who conceived those fictional figures and their traits, must have been a genius who ate life with a spoon and probably was a crazy (with the good meaning) and creative artist.
Post edited November 02, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
The only good to come of this is that WB finally removed the pre-load lock when prevented customers in Japan and South Korea from playing this for almost 4 months after the local release date.
Wait for re-re-release.
I wonder if the next Batman game from WB will come to PC at all? I don't know if their issue is that WB is not funding the PC version development as well as console development, or is it really that big a nightmare to make an AAA PC game that works fine on most PCs? CDPR has already some experience with that, what's their view?

Anyway, if they keep fixing it, maybe it will be near flawless by the time I buy it for 5€ from a Steam sale, or part of a WB Humble Bundle.

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Crosmando: I want to know WHY anyone could actually like superhero fiction media. It's just so mindbogglingly bad, and it becomes even more bad the more they try to make it "serious" (ie Batman).
I have similar thoughts and I've always seen the superhero fascination mainly as some kind of US thing. To each his own I guess. None of my friends nor siblings understand my fascination to (PC) games. In their eyes it is something their kids do, adults do adult things like go fishing, fix the roof of the barn and watch the TV.

I hate fishing by the way, the few times I've tried it, I was bored to death. Yet e.g. the husband of my sister can't wait to go to the lake or sea to fish some more.
Post edited November 02, 2015 by timppu
Compare Western comics and cartoons to Japanese anime. Not to be a weeb about it, but there's anime and manga of literally every genre imaginable, yet US comics/cartoons are either a) children/family titles, or b) "serious" superhero. Also Western comics are ridiculously short, though this is because they go full-color too much instead of just black and white and full color for the cover of each volume, like manga.
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timppu: I wonder if the next Batman game from WB will come to PC at all?
Did you forget Colonial Marines? Everyone was afraid Isolation would suck. Companies that don't make mistakes won't learn. :P
I have 60 hours gameplay for Arkham Knight, have beaten main story with perfect Knightfall ending, so I think I can say my opinion regarding the game.

As a whole, game's working fine for me. Fine means no crashes, no progression blockers, no random BSODs here and there.

Graphic wise, stuttering is very visible to my eyes during heavy batmobile sessions. Especially when you turn your vehicle sharply or pass through very crowded area. I do admit I don't have powerful GTX980, but 6 fps during Batmobile on ALL LOW settings? It's just -> -.-

When gliding slowly it's fine. When gliding SHARPLY it is NOT fine.

When fighting it's fine.

It's only when riding a batmobile and gliding sharply.

Lip-sync is ALWAYS off. No matter what you do, there's no workaround. Other things related to sound are fine.

I'm using 8 GB machine and my RAM usage is like 95% *gasp* when playing Arkham Knight. That is with no background programs except one puny antivirus (MSE). I suspect I could get better performance when playing with more RAM, but this is maybe also because the game's badly optimized for Windows 10 machine.

So, take it what you will. if you want to play and beat the best Batman Arkham game to date, despite the issues, just play - nothing will kill your PC just some annoyances.
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Crosmando: US comics/cartoons are either a) children/family titles, or b) "serious" superhero.
You might want to reconsider. There are MANY western comics that are hardcore and borderline pornographic, even more freakish/perverted/psycho/"disturbing" than your average eastern ecchi and hentai, or splatter theme...

Ever read anything like "shadow of melanicus"?

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zeroxxx: So, take it what you will. if you want to play and beat the best Batman Arkham game to date, despite the issues, just play - nothing will kill your PC just some annoyances.
As a completionist whore that i am, i am still fighting with myself over buying it or skipping it... Price isn't helping though... 90 euros for ONE game (i have already got the rest) and this one isn't even the complete package...
Post edited November 02, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Crosmando: Compare Western comics and cartoons to Japanese anime. Not to be a weeb about it, but there's anime and manga of literally every genre imaginable, yet US comics/cartoons are either a) children/family titles, or b) "serious" superhero. Also Western comics are ridiculously short, though this is because they go full-color too much instead of just black and white and full color for the cover of each volume, like manga.
JRPGs still suck though, except those few which are on GOG.com of course.

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timppu: I wonder if the next Batman game from WB will come to PC at all?
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MaximumBunny: Did you forget Colonial Marines? Everyone was afraid Isolation would suck. Companies that don't make mistakes won't learn. :P
Sorry I am not familiar with either game and their relationship with each other, except maybe reading the bitching how some Aliens game didn't live up to E3 demos (but then was The Witcher 3 under similar controversy later?). Were those complaints only for the PC version, or also the console versions?

Hopefully new AAA titles keep coming to PC, but still just wondering which was the main issue here, not enough resources to the PC version (less than the console versions?), or the PC/Windows platform being so hard to develop for? I can understand making a game for one console spec and configuration is much simpler than for various PC configurations, but how much extra work is that?
Post edited November 02, 2015 by timppu