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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 23, 2014
Not impressed. Australians already pay the "Australia Tax" on most of their digital transactions through every other platform, so this merely makes GOG less competitive in my eyes, not "revolutionary."

Conceding the point on regional pricing leaves the DRM-free marketing point as merely a token without any sweetener. :/
Post edited February 23, 2014 by bbqsrc
Posted February 23, 2014
I have to wonder, how much of GOG's revenue comes from Australian customers? Because this move is definitely going to bring that percentage waaaaaay down if they're going to handle it like everyone else has. Aussies seemed to get screwed over the most when it comes to pricing for items in almost every instance, not just games (see: the situation where a digital download of some Adobe software program, was priced 1000 USD higher in Australia than elsewhere, or at least the US, and when continuously pressed about the matter by reporters at some conference, the CEO constantly dodged the questions and kept going on about "the creative cloud" or whatever).
Post edited February 23, 2014 by cannard
Posted February 23, 2014
http://imgur.com/gallery/a0f3Mj2/new


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For justice.
Posted February 23, 2014
It certainly is not ea games , they are not going to strip out the origin on their games and release it and they are certainly not going let gog sell the dlc for the games, heck they refused steam demands that all dlc be included on steam rather than creating another bioware account and purchasing it there.

in short dragon age ->requires bioware account to authorize/purchase dlc same goes with any bioware game

so rule out mass effect and dragon age
Posted February 23, 2014
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Sogi-Ya: What if it is Dark Souls 2?
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cannard: Again, a game that's being released on Steam and current-gen consoles. Sacrificing a principle that is very clearly near and dear to a lot of people, and causing concern for what GOG may also sacrifice in the future, for a commonly found modern title is just terrible decision-making on whoever's part it is who's responsible for this. Yeah it may be DRM-free but now that does not seem to matter to most people here who believe that fair pricing is almost if not equally as important to them who now plan on boycotting the game here. And really GOG should not be wasting so much time getting games like that on here, especially not as a first-day release if they can wait it out. Titles unique to this catalog are what matter more to me than anything. So for me, I would say anything less than the most highly voted games on the community wishlist still not available to buy anywhere would make this change completely unjustifiable as opposed to only disappointing and barely justifiable.
That's your view on it, but don't be so quick to assume that all or even most of GOG's userbase feel the same. Personally, I don't consider Steam and option, and I'd rather not get Dark Souls 2 for PS3 or some other console, unless that's the only alternative. So a DRM-free release of a game like that, right here at GOG, would be the perfect solution for me, and I'd be willing to spend a few extra bucks if that's what it takes.

I don't know, I'm indifferent about the potential regional pricing. If anything I'm worried about possible additional regional restrictions. But since we have so little information, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes up. I also half suspect that these "great new games" will be rather underwhelming and not worth all this trouble, but who knows...
Posted February 23, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: It certainly is not ea games , they are not going to strip out the origin on their games and release it and they are certainly not going let gog sell the dlc for the games, heck they refused steam demands that all dlc be included on steam rather than creating another bioware account and purchasing it there.

in short dragon age ->requires bioware account to authorize/purchase dlc same goes with any bioware game

so rule out mass effect and dragon age
The DLC issue was less about selling it and more about how Steam was demanding platform specific versions of the DLC.

Amazon sold the same DLC that steam did, yet EA didn't pull their titles from Amazon; the distinction is that the DLC that Amazon was selling could be used with games sold through any other retailer ... except steam.

Lots of people tried to make the case that it was the same thing as PS3 DLC not working with Xbox DLC, except that there are explicit hardware differences between the two platforms while Steam vs non-Steam is nothing but a version #.

What Steam does is on the same level of Best Buy wanting a explict version of the game so that they could restrict users from buying the DLC at Walmart.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Sogi-Ya
Posted February 23, 2014
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graspee: http://imgur.com/gallery/a0f3Mj2/new

It had to be done.
For justice.
Oh that was great, first laugh I've had since this thread started :)
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liquidsnakehpks: in short dragon age ->requires bioware account to authorize/purchase dlc same goes with any bioware game

so rule out mass effect and dragon age
In short means I'm not going to buy those games digitally, last thing I want is to be tied to yet another platform.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by deonast
Posted February 23, 2014
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cannard: I have to wonder, how much of GOG's revenue comes from Australian customers? Because this move is definitely going to bring that percentage waaaaaay down if they're going to handle it like everyone else has. Aussies seemed to get screwed over the most when it comes to pricing for items in almost every instance, not just games (see: the situation where a digital download of some Adobe software program, was priced 1000 USD higher in Australia than elsewhere, or at least the US, and when continuously pressed about the matter by reporters at some conference, the CEO constantly dodged the questions and kept going on about "the creative cloud" or whatever).
What's up with that anyway? Is there any reason why Australia gets screwed over so much? I mean come on, they already have to deal with all the crazy poisonous critters and crocodiles -- give 'em a break! :P

Other countries have this problem too, including many European ones, but it seems it's especially bad for Australians.
Posted February 23, 2014
Btw. does region locking even work without DRM?

I mean, if they sell games based on IP, than you can easily get any IP from any country that you like for the buying process. For download you then use the normal connection and once you have the game and it's DRM free they cannot fuck you anymore. So will customers play along with it or will they try to save money?
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Trilarion
Posted February 23, 2014
I can just imagine GOG management thinking " Oh **** people really really hate this idea. Maybe we should reverse our decisions" :P.. can only hope.....
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Trilarion: Btw. does region locking even works without DRM?

I mean, if they sell games based on IP, than you can easily get any IP from any country that you like for the buying process. For download you then use the normal connection and once you have the game and it's DRM free they cannot fuck you anymore. So will customers play along with it or will they try to save money?
U fancy paying double or triple for a game u want to buy now or in future?.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Niggles
Posted February 23, 2014
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CharlesGrey: What's up with that anyway? Is there any reason why Australia gets screwed over so much? I mean come on, they already have to deal with all the crazy poisonous critters and crocodiles -- give 'em a break! :P

Other countries have this problem too, including many European ones, but it seems it's especially bad for Australians.
And I learned on the news the other day that Crocodiles can climb fences and trees. So not only worry about the drob bears but now the Crocodiles dropping out of trees on you :)
Posted February 23, 2014
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Niggles: ... U fancy paying double or triple for a game u want to buy now or in future?.
Don't understand. IP based detection doesn't seem to be the most accurate detection of origin and once I downloaded a DRM free game it's mine forever. At least that's what I thought?
Posted February 23, 2014
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graspee: http://imgur.com/gallery/a0f3Mj2/new

It had to be done.
For justice.
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deonast: Oh that was great, first laugh I've had since this thread started :)
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liquidsnakehpks: in short dragon age ->requires bioware account to authorize/purchase dlc same goes with any bioware game

so rule out mass effect and dragon age
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deonast: In short means I'm not going to buy those games digitally, last thing I want is to be tied to yet another platform.
EA actually sells version that are exempt from Origin ... getting rarer, but the possibility is there.

It is a long shot, but I wouldn't say it is impossible ... I could see them going for it if GOG let EA list a Origin key if people wanted MP.
Posted February 23, 2014
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CharlesGrey: ... What's up with that anyway? Is there any reason why Australia gets screwed over so much? ...
According to the theory of regional pricing it has to do with the willingness to pay a certain amount for a certain product. This would mean that Australians are just too eager handing over the money.

But maybe it is just the perceived wealth of Australia (huge continent all owned by only so few people, so they must be rich) in the eyes of the publishers.
Post edited February 23, 2014 by Trilarion
Posted February 23, 2014
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Sogi-Ya: The DLC issue was less about selling it and more about how Steam was demanding platform specific versions of the DLC.
I really think it was more about requiring publishers to not just sell the base game on Steam but the DLC for that game as well. This was right after they introduced their F2P section, which could be abused massively for free hosting/advertising if publisher/devs could just upload their game there for free and make their money in outside stores without any benefit to Steam at all.
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