I'm getting very mixed signals here - I don't mean to talk about moderation, but it's just that people have been banned for less than what has been posted in this thread already. For weeks in some cases. And it was solely due to going political off-topic, against the Code of Conduct, even though they remained civil. And seeing as this topic and thread is about 90% political, and 10% gaming related, you will understand my confusion.

I'm getting very mixed signals here and am extremely wary of posting anything concrete, despite wanting to participate in the discussion. More than just being curious of the psychology of conspiracy theorists, which is quite fascinating in its own right.

But yeah. Don't want to wake up on Monday to see that half the forum posters are banned for a month. And that goes for both sides of the arguers. People bait with these threads during the weekends when mods are sleeping, and then mass report participants.

In case you weren't aware people. Be careful out there :)

I am still surprised that PiS allowed Blackrock to control CD Projekt with ESG. With your current rainbow flag loving government there is not hope of change. You should support the Konfederacja to prevent the rise of a woke cult in your country.


The only troll in this thread is you. Shut up!

You sound like a preacher of a deluded cult. Shut up wokester!

Awful people make awful video games, it's simple as that.

If you employ awful or incompetent or ideologically biased people that cannot keep their beliefs separate and out of the games they're making you will end up with awful games.

Games that, for example despite being based in and built upon very specific and regionally contained and established lore and tradition(al values) and drawing their strength and USPs from that all of sudden need to be more "inclusive", "diverse" and "progressive" and appealing to a "modern audience" that time and time again has proven to be non-existent.

Ending up with:
- disproportionate if not completely unrealistic numbers of NPCs of non-European ethnicities milling about in a low fantasy world that while being fictional is still explicitly modelled after medieval Europe where non-white, so called people of colour have been virtually non-existent
- characters being reduced to and/or identifying/expressing themselves primarily via their sexuality or sex, as if their lives depend on it
- hiding or downright removing scientific facts like male and female sex, replacing it with "body type A" and "body type B" during character creation
- "forcing behaviours" via introducing compulsory pronoun usage, which again, makes no sense in a low fantasy world explicitly modelled after medieval Europe whatsoever
- etc.

What game(s) I'm talking about, you ask?

Witcher 4 (5 and 6), IF this praying to and doing the bidding of the DEI/ESG/BRIDGE overlords isn't stopped rather sooner than later.

You don't want to play a non-binary Geraldine of Rivia?

Right on. The woke cult needs to be stopped.

One of the many reasons the woke cult are evil is their false-flag garbage, where they larp as the villains from their deranged imaginations and mix right-wing talking points with Nazi bullshit like blaming Jews for everything and waving swastikas. A classic Scooby-Doo mask-pull reveals them for the authoritarian sub-humans they really are.

I've literally gone through 80 iterations of that last post to get even the faintest hint of the political, the abrasive, and the insulting out of it. Took me no less than an hour. But I've said my piece and I don't think I have anything to add. I think it's possible to have an actually respectful discussion of Star Wars Outlaws, of Rings of Power, of the Concord failure. I don't think it's possible to have the same kind of discussion about Sweet Baby Inc. – nobody here, myself included, even knows what they're doing.

The funny thing is, CDPR Boston could/should(?) cram as much of the "woke bullshit" into Orion (a.k.a. the CP2077 follow-up) and it wouldn't necessarily be worse for it.
The world of Cyberpunk is supposed to be a futuristic hellhole dystopia of the American way of life after all.

If CDPR could keep all the modern, revisionistic "we don't care about the established lore and world and especially the older titles in the franchise" out of the Witcher AT LEAST, that'd be great and without a doubt appreciated by essentially everyone.

Let us have at least one franchise that's staying true to its roots (no matter how allegedly controversial or problematic they may be), does not throw away artistic or professional integrity and does not bend over backwards in compliance with DEI/ESG/BRIDGE.

Changing a certain politically charged avatar picture might be in order for the thread to remain open, by the way.

Don't come crying that "GOG closed the thread because GOG hates free speech" or something along those lines afterwards.

Well, I smell a lock tomorrow so either way, my final summation:

The "S" in the ESG is the source of all problems. It has no business being there and just comes off as preachy at best, escapism ruining at worst. While the merits of the "E" and G"" part could be reasonably debated on their positives and negatives, the "S" part will ultimately lead to nothing but dispute between the company adopting it and the end customer. Especially in the entertainment industry. Because unlike most other businesses, once the "S" starts seeping into the final product, it is quite apparent to see, usually accompanied by a drop in quality. And it will start seeping through, because the strive for ever higher ESG score is not a finite thing. Well, unless you literally reach the maximum rating, in which case, your goal is to maintain it. And the more you overdo it, the more pushback there is going to be, as evidenced by the past several years.

How can we force companies to start thinking about dropping the "S" part? By repeatedly making it clear that's not what the customers want. Closing our wallets and letting things bomb hard enough and often enough so the losses actually start equaling or outweighing the gains from going full ESG. It will seem like it does nothing at first, as many companies are all but taken over by those whose political views align with the "S" pillar, taking advantage of the favorable situation (watch the example vid I linked in my previous post). So the key is persistence. The market will correct itself eventually, but it won't happen overnight. We are already starting to see some initial "twitches" towards starting to cater to the customer again. The whole ESG/DEI/BRIDGE thing has an ever-growing negative connotation in the eyes of the general public. The first phase - them starting to hide the fact they follow these systems - is already here. It used to be flaunted everywhere as something universally positive. Not anymore, because companies are starting to realize, that is no longer the case. The key is to not rest on laurels, because hiding does not mean not still adopting it in the background (because again, investment money). So remain on guard and vote with your wallet. It will eventually become enough of an issue to force change. It's much harder to do for us than for the multi-trillion dollar holding companies, but not impossible.

A certain someone has just been reported.

Joined May 2024 with a mad provocative avatar. I wonder which of the commie trolls be tryin to get the thread shut.

Facts, shove that shit into the next Cyberpunk. It would fit perfect, fr fr

Comes back to what I said earlier - it would be just like the GOG moderators to lock a thread because one user is using a swastika for their avatar. Despite the fact it would do nothing whatsoever to punish the actual user.

Now, can we stop looking for conspiracy theories and go back to posting cool gaming stuff?

Labelling shit as conspiracy theory indicates the speaker has no leg to stand on. The safe haven of weak minds is all it be.
Facts. Ok seems they changed they avatar so maybe the thread will stay open.