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DubConqueror: I'd just play being the offspring of the God of Murder, being hunted to death by my half-brother. Seems fitting, on a deathbed. What better way to die than with the greatest game of all time.

Please don't mention the game if you know what I'm referring though, or it'll turn into a spoiler!
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Sarisio: I think that game is old enough so everyone now know the plot, just like everyone knows that Darth Vader is Luke's father, or that Edea is Matron of SeeD in FF 8.
But some games are old enough so younger gamers or those who started later might not have played it
thats the beauty of gaming, there is no limit to who can play, you can be any character you want , and thumb your nose at reality and physical restrictions.
I don't see any reason for an age limit to play games. You're only as old as you feel; if you're 100 and a six pack of monster energy and a weekend binge of Mortal Kombat is what gets you going then all I got to say is.. FINISH HIM!!

Got to say though, it would be funny to see. Bunch of old farts in a home surrounding the TV playing Mortal Kombat while their friends are shaking their fists and canes cheering them on. The home care provider comes in with their pills and she gets beat down with a walker. Of course there's always at least one who cops a feel while she's down. Chances are that would be me, I would be too old to care anymore of the consequences. Ahh the stories I would have to share with the guys who survived the night at the bench outside under the tree. All of which would be a lie except for the grabbing her jugs. She could call me whatever she wants, as long as she called me.

As far as a being too young for games, there is no reason to have an age restriction. If the kid wants to play a particular game, they are going to find a way. Chances are they've already seen or heard whatever restricted material is in the game anyway. And if they can't see or hear what they want in the game, they will find it elsewhere. Kids are smarter than you may think. Just like the old man in the nursing home who grabbed the care givers jugs and claimed his hip gave out on him and he fell and was simply grabbing for anything he could find to keep from getting hurt.
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Sarisio: or that Edea is Matron of SeeD in FF 8.
I didn't know that, I won't even know what this means until I play the game. Anyway, I think your assumption is incorrect. Luckily I will probably forget I ever read this by the time I play the game.
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FoxbodyMustang: Kids are smarter than you may think. Just like the old man in the nursing home who grabbed the care givers jugs and claimed his hip gave out on him and he fell and was simply grabbing for anything he could find to keep from getting hurt.
That's a good way to describe why kids should be restricted. Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. Sure they may be smart enough to find a way, but there's no point in making life easy for them.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by ET3D
The moment people stop playing games (of any kind), they're dead inside.
Many old people I knew in my youth played cards while we grew up with additional mediums for games (with a lot more variety), so I guess when we grow old, there'll be a lot of granny-gamers.
It only seems to be so weird now, because this is actually a transition period.

Games keep your mind active indeed, all the old card players I knew back then have kept their mind way longer than anyone else who has just watched TV which is completely passive.

Stay active as long as you can and if you're bound to a chair at some point, there's even more time for gaming, that's why I try to not play too much while my whole body is still working really well.
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Matewis: Anyone ever give any thought to what game you want to play on your death bed?
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DubConqueror: I'd just play being the offspring of the God of Murder, being hunted to death by my half-brother. Seems fitting, on a deathbed. What better way to die than with the greatest game of all time.

Please don't mention the game if you know what I'm referring though, or it'll turn into a spoiler!
I believe I know :) I still have to play the sequel to the game you're referring to, as well as the other sequel where you create a full party at the beginning. Then I'll be done with all those games that were made with the same engine, which is something I set out to do some time ago.
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Matewis: Anyone ever give any thought to what game you want to play on your death bed?
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Heroes 3 Complete with Necropolis faction...
Great choice, uhm under the circumstances, but if it were up to me I'd rather go with the undead faction of Disciples 2.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by Matewis
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Sarisio: or that Edea is Matron of SeeD in FF 8.
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ET3D: I didn't know that, I won't even know what this means until I play the game. Anyway, I think your assumption is incorrect. Luckily I will probably forget I ever read this by the time I play the game.
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FoxbodyMustang: Kids are smarter than you may think. Just like the old man in the nursing home who grabbed the care givers jugs and claimed his hip gave out on him and he fell and was simply grabbing for anything he could find to keep from getting hurt.
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ET3D: That's a good way to describe why kids should be restricted. Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. Sure they may be smart enough to find a way, but there's no point in making life easy for them.
My parents never told me I couldn't do anything. They never told me I couldn't drink or smoke or anything. No restrictions. Yet I have no interest in doing so. Is it just me? Is it because I was never told I couldn't and then rebellion makes me want to? Not really sure. Bottom line to the matter is that the parents need to just simply be more involved with what their kids. Since most parents aren't into gaming, have no interest in rap or hip hop or heavy metal music, and are usually too busy with work, they have no clue what their kids are exposed to. I don't think the material is the threat to the kids, it's the fact that there is no role model to teach them morals and that not everything they see is the way life is. If you just talk to them, they will listen. Like I said, kids are smarter than you think. Most kids that end up troublesome have parents that basically neglected them throughout their life and have only learned what they see in movies, games, and hear in music. If the kid is taught that a man dodging bullets and running up the walls and fighting his way out of an endless onslaught of enemies is just not going to happen, they will realize that this is just pretend and it will not have a negative impact on the kid's life. TV and many parents try to sugar coat everything in their kid's lives and when their kid is confronted with it in real life, they are dumbfounded because nothing is what they have been taught. All because they didn't want their kids exposed. I say let them be exposed and just teach them right from wrong. Life is good, but it is also brutal. Help them be ready for whatever life throws at them.

A good example is when the family dog dies. Don't tell them he went to live on a farm or whatever, tell them the truth. Don't let them come home one day to find another family dog dead in the road alone, they will be devastated. It will be much easier for them to understand if the parent is there to explain life and death.
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DubConqueror: There should be an age limit for smartphones: to not buy a new one until the previous one has been used for at least three years. I don't get why people waste such an intense amount of energy and (mining) resources by buying a new smartphone each year.
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ScotchMonkey: Or new phones every 5 months.

Ive had 5 phones in my entire life. Some of these kids have had like 15 in a few years. Its wastefull.
Agreed on the wastage.

However do you consider another factor that nowadays companies are trying to churn out phone that will malfunction after 2 years like every other electrical applications? So people would buy new ones?

My old nokia phone is still working now after 7 years despite dropping many times, sometimes even with components flying everywhere, but I can put them back and it work again. The same cannot be said with newer phones.
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ScotchMonkey: Or new phones every 5 months.

Ive had 5 phones in my entire life. Some of these kids have had like 15 in a few years. Its wastefull.
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Gnostic: Agreed on the wastage.

However do you consider another factor that nowadays companies are trying to churn out phone that will malfunction after 2 years like every other electrical applications? So people would buy new ones?

My old nokia phone is still working now after 7 years despite dropping many times, sometimes even with components flying everywhere, but I can put them back and it work again. The same cannot be said with newer phones.
Yes , built in obsolesance is a huge issue. However most people and kids especially, just want the latest and greatest.

I understand when something would cost more to fix than to buy new. It happened to me with the 360 and PS3.

But some of this shit is out of control.
Off topic but I sill sometimes see my dad's pre-2005 Nokia phone. Its just a black and greenish yellow display phone but its built like a brick. I've had one phone malfunction on me even though I took good care of it but that decade pushing plastic rock survived being dropped 100s of times and still works. I still wonder what it takes to destroy one of those. My brother uses a really old phone as well and he once left it on the terrace one evening and forgot to bring it back. That night it rained heavily and no one remembered it until the next evening. It didn't so much as flinch. He still uses that.
I didn't really want a smartphone at all, also because of it's dimished durability and unfair mining practices, until the Fairphone 2 got me hooked.

Fair mining is what they're striving for and the phone is built to last 6 years and be repairable by replacing modules as well, with a DIY guide offered.
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DubConqueror: I didn't really want a smartphone at all, also because of it's dimished durability and unfair mining practices, until the Fairphone 2 got me hooked.

Fair mining is what they're striving for and the phone is built to last 6 years and be repairable by replacing modules as well, with a DIY guide offered.
The Fairphone did always interest me, but I heard, that the first one wasn't as fair as promised.
I didn't even know, that there is a second version. What's the battery-life?
One of the reasons why I still do not have a smartphone is, that even after 7 years of use and a max battery charge loss of about 50%, my old Samsung clamshell still works longer between charging cycles than any smartphone I've encountered.
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Shadowstalker16: Yeah that is the problem though. In the US and Europe it might be different or anywhere else but where I live it might be different but people are constantly saying I'm too old to play games. Many people still lack the knowledge that gaming is just as if not much more engaging and entertaining a medium as books or films. How people view playing games as juvenile while buying a new smartphone every 4 months is beyond me.
I'm supporting this.
Yep, that's the thing - it's based in ignorance and judgment. The mere concept of being "too old" for something whether it is games, sports, humour or anything else is at its core a form of judgment which is at a bare minimum dysfunctional if not outright harmful. It ultimately comes out of ignorance, and of judging other people and what they are and are not capable of doing or what they should or shouldn't do with their life. Only other people do not get to decide what is right or wrong for us, what we will or should enjoy. Age is absolutely nothing more than the procession of time. It is visibly noticeable with our outward appearance of our skin, body, hair, etc. as our bodies change and deteriorate due to disease, malnutrition, illness, injury, exposure to harmful chemicals or other substances, radiation and so on and so on. Some people have more exposure to these things than others and thus naturally some people live longer than others. People who take better care of themselves may live longer with a much more youthful look, this making it more difficult to even discern age by look. Others of course use makeup, surgery and other means to disguise their age to varying degrees of success. The bottom line is that you can't judge a person accurately or who they are as a person solely by their physical appearance alone, including their age, and there is no genetic predisposition nor rule or law that states that people of a certain age must think or behave a certain way, or like or dislike certain things.

It's really no different than someone criticizing someone for playing video games as being a waste of time or similar who then goes and spends just as much time watching sports, sitcoms, reality TV on television for a similar amount of time. Every one of us consciously decides to spend our time how we want to spend it at that moment of time, and we reap the pros and/or cons of those decisions. It's not for others to judge what is right or wrong.
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Gnostic: Agreed on the wastage.

However do you consider another factor that nowadays companies are trying to churn out phone that will malfunction after 2 years like every other electrical applications? So people would buy new ones?

My old nokia phone is still working now after 7 years despite dropping many times, sometimes even with components flying everywhere, but I can put them back and it work again. The same cannot be said with newer phones.
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ScotchMonkey: Yes , built in obsolesance is a huge issue. However most people and kids especially, just want the latest and greatest.

I understand when something would cost more to fix than to buy new. It happened to me with the 360 and PS3.

But some of this shit is out of control.
As a kid growing up in the 80s who enjoyed the sights and sounds of blinking sticks and flashing orbs with Atari, I just don't get the fascination people have with current tech. We went from the proverbial horse and buggy days to zapping around in outer space. To be thrilled to go from the Galaxy 4 to the Galaxy 5 just seems silly to me. PS3 to PS4? What, a few more polygons and some atmospheric FX? It seems there's a possibility that now people are just getting excited for something new because they expect it, and because they're expected to. Self fulfilling prophecies of endless self-gratification as we circle the drain.

I used to be an early adopter. Not any more. Technology just doesn't fascinate me like it used to. In fact, the heedless slide into the future is a bit worrying to me now. As a wise man once said, 'we have become tools of our tools.'
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ScotchMonkey: Yes , built in obsolesance is a huge issue. However most people and kids especially, just want the latest and greatest.

I understand when something would cost more to fix than to buy new. It happened to me with the 360 and PS3.

But some of this shit is out of control.
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Emob78: As a kid growing up in the 80s who enjoyed the sights and sounds of blinking sticks and flashing orbs with Atari, I just don't get the fascination people have with current tech. We went from the proverbial horse and buggy days to zapping around in outer space. To be thrilled to go from the Galaxy 4 to the Galaxy 5 just seems silly to me. PS3 to PS4? What, a few more polygons and some atmospheric FX? It seems there's a possibility that now people are just getting excited for something new because they expect it, and because they're expected to. Self fulfilling prophecies of endless self-gratification as we circle the drain.

I used to be an early adopter. Not any more. Technology just doesn't fascinate me like it used to. In fact, the heedless slide into the future is a bit worrying to me now. As a wise man once said, 'we have become tools of our tools.'
Well these people drive technology forward so I can enjoy cheap second rate technology that is more then enough for my usage.

I am grateful for them to spearhead the market and technology that I can enjoy at their cost.

We cannot have too many people wisen up like you that technology goes slow and price for old products discount become rare and few. :D

On a side note, technology become fashionable is better then people spending a bomb on clothing, tattoo, sport car that can only run as fast as the speed limit, near extinct animal for food and other things like that.