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Posted November 05, 2015
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monkeydelarge: I'm probably going to stop buying Steam(and Origin) games because in the end, you are getting a bad deal with this kind of DRM. So many people think, the internet and services like Steam are going to be around forever but this is just wishful thinking. Nothing lasts forever. And in the end, it is going to be people with the massive collections of backed up GOGs who will have something to show from all the money they spent on games.
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darthspudius: Nothing lasts forever, not even back ups...
Yep, that's why I have a timepoint backup from around 6 years ago, 1 internal HDD, 4 HDD's I plug in once 3 monthly cycle, 2 onsite, 2 offsite. Once yearly each HDD is checked sequentially for any faults, I might even consider putting in a small house server as an additional layer in the next year. Not to mention I have a vast amount original releases. See I personally wouldn't rely on any service.
Posted November 05, 2015
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darthspudius: Nothing lasts forever, not even back ups...
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nightcraw1er.488: Yep, that's why I have a timepoint backup from around 6 years ago, 1 internal HDD, 4 HDD's I plug in once 3 monthly cycle, 2 onsite, 2 offsite. Once yearly each HDD is checked sequentially for any faults, I might even consider putting in a small house server as an additional layer in the next year. Not to mention I have a vast amount original releases. See I personally wouldn't rely on any service.
I wouldn't rely on anything. I'm just accepting the fact that GOG is just as likely to go out of business as Steam. Shit happens and thats life.
Posted November 05, 2015
sounds like a clickbait topic...

never used steam myself except in lan shops playing an actual online game. i have no idea why younglings or any "hardcore" gamer can tolerate the need to verify your game each time you want to play it offline.

as for triple-a games, they mostly require an online activation these days, or some form of drm. so boycott triple-a games , if you really want non-drm games only. doubt a boycott would work though . even indie devs are mostly on Steam, but many sell a non-drm version in their own stores/websites. a sucker is born every minute.
Post edited November 06, 2015 by dick1982
Posted November 05, 2015
You already made your sins buying on DRM platforms; continue to use what you already have.

But moving forward, embrace the openness of GOG. Welcome!

As for "multiple platforms", don't think of GOG as a platform. Think of it as a store. It's more apt, since it's DRM free. You complete your purchase, make your download, and, if you want, you're done -- forever. Until the next time you want to buy something.
Posted November 05, 2015
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nightcraw1er.488: Yep, that's why I have a timepoint backup from around 6 years ago, 1 internal HDD, 4 HDD's I plug in once 3 monthly cycle, 2 onsite, 2 offsite. Once yearly each HDD is checked sequentially for any faults, I might even consider putting in a small house server as an additional layer in the next year. Not to mention I have a vast amount original releases. See I personally wouldn't rely on any service.
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darthspudius: I wouldn't rely on anything. I'm just accepting the fact that GOG is just as likely to go out of business as Steam. Shit happens and thats life.
Yeah but downloading all your GOGs and putting them on an external hard drive or two or three is easy. And then you will have your GOGs for the rest of your life. Isn't that money well spent?
Posted November 05, 2015
I don't understand why anyone would abandon their Steam collection without it somehow being impractical or you've somehow been fucked over by Steam to such a degree that using their client leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yes, GOG's better and more ethical (although perhaps not to the kind of degree it was when it started), but that's no reason to completely ditch one in favour of the other.
Posted November 05, 2015
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darthspudius: I wouldn't rely on anything. I'm just accepting the fact that GOG is just as likely to go out of business as Steam. Shit happens and thats life.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah but downloading all your GOGs and putting them on an external hard drive or two or three is easy. And then you will have your GOGs for the rest of your life. Isn't that money well spent?
You may put your GOGs on external hard drives and they are then "yours" " forever", insofar as any physical (CD/DVD) copy was ever "yours". But then a new OS and / or new hardware will come along and you will need (perhaps with GOG's help, but perhaps not) to get the copy of the gane you own to work again on the new hardware. Eventually this will become virtually impossible, unless you yourself are a computer wizard. Eventually all old games will be "superseded" by newer ones, even if the newer ones are inferior. Games can be artworks but unfortunately they are not like paintings or statues or novels : they are all communicated via a medium which by its very nature is bound to destroy them.
Posted November 05, 2015
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dick1982: sounds like a clickbait topic...
Believe me i didn't know this topic would have such success lol :) !
Quite pleased to see so many people giving me their advice as well, thanks !
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Rivdoric
Posted November 05, 2015
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Theoclymenus: Well I was thinking about buying Pillars of Eternity in the sale today, but ultimately I decided against it. What I wanted was : the game, its expansion, the manual (which I've already read and which I can say is "ok" by today's standards but hardly comprehensive), perhaps the almanac and perhaps the guide.
As far as the manual goes, it's pretty much useless at this point anyway. It hasn't been updated since release, but the game has gone through so many changes and updates in mechanics and other areas that the only thing the manual would be any good for is controls (and even some of those have changed). Maybe some background.

Similar for the strategy guide. Hell, even a bunch of the creatures got immunities (something Obs said they weren't going to do when they pitched the KS campaign), classes got a bunch of nerfs and buff-ups, talents and skills have changed, etc, so the strategy guide's going to be full of misinformation at this point.

The almanac's cool though.
Posted November 05, 2015
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monkeydelarge: Yeah but downloading all your GOGs and putting them on an external hard drive or two or three is easy. And then you will have your GOGs for the rest of your life. Isn't that money well spent?
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Theoclymenus: You may put your GOGs on external hard drives and they are then "yours" " forever", insofar as any physical (CD/DVD) copy was ever "yours". But then a new OS and / or new hardware will come along and you will need (perhaps with GOG's help, but perhaps not) to get the copy of the gane you own to work again on the new hardware. Eventually this will become virtually impossible, unless you yourself are a computer wizard. Eventually all old games will be "superseded" by newer ones, even if the newer ones are inferior. Games can be artworks but unfortunately they are not like paintings or statues or novels : they are all communicated via a medium which by its very nature is bound to destroy them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s :(

No PC games...no cry...
Post edited November 05, 2015 by monkeydelarge
Posted November 06, 2015
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monkeydelarge: Yeah but downloading all your GOGs and putting them on an external hard drive or two or three is easy. And then you will have your GOGs for the rest of your life. Isn't that money well spent?
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Theoclymenus: You may put your GOGs on external hard drives and they are then "yours" " forever", insofar as any physical (CD/DVD) copy was ever "yours". But then a new OS and / or new hardware will come along and you will need (perhaps with GOG's help, but perhaps not) to get the copy of the gane you own to work again on the new hardware. Eventually this will become virtually impossible, unless you yourself are a computer wizard. Eventually all old games will be "superseded" by newer ones, even if the newer ones are inferior. Games can be artworks but unfortunately they are not like paintings or statues or novels : they are all communicated via a medium which by its very nature is bound to destroy them.
Indeed, but that is why I still have several machines about the house, with most windows versions, and I have a fair few of the consoles (in duplicate). So I shan't be worrying too much about that, especially with emulators, dosbox, virtualisation etc. The problem lies in the vast majority (or as I tend to call it the lowest common denominator) group who throw things away each few months and buy the next great thing.
Posted November 06, 2015
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Theoclymenus: You may put your GOGs on external hard drives and they are then "yours" " forever", insofar as any physical (CD/DVD) copy was ever "yours". But then a new OS and / or new hardware will come along and you will need (perhaps with GOG's help, but perhaps not) to get the copy of the gane you own to work again on the new hardware. Eventually this will become virtually impossible, unless you yourself are a computer wizard. Eventually all old games will be "superseded" by newer ones, even if the newer ones are inferior. Games can be artworks but unfortunately they are not like paintings or statues or novels : they are all communicated via a medium which by its very nature is bound to destroy them.
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monkeydelarge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s :(

No PC games...no cry...
I thought that was going to be Bob Marley.
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Theoclymenus: You may put your GOGs on external hard drives and they are then "yours" " forever", insofar as any physical (CD/DVD) copy was ever "yours". But then a new OS and / or new hardware will come along and you will need (perhaps with GOG's help, but perhaps not) to get the copy of the gane you own to work again on the new hardware. Eventually this will become virtually impossible, unless you yourself are a computer wizard. Eventually all old games will be "superseded" by newer ones, even if the newer ones are inferior. Games can be artworks but unfortunately they are not like paintings or statues or novels : they are all communicated via a medium which by its very nature is bound to destroy them.
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nightcraw1er.488: Indeed, but that is why I still have several machines about the house, with most windows versions, and I have a fair few of the consoles (in duplicate). So I shan't be worrying too much about that, especially with emulators, dosbox, virtualisation etc. The problem lies in the vast majority (or as I tend to call it the lowest common denominator) group who throw things away each few months and buy the next great thing.
I've thought of doing that too but where would it end ? Backwards compatibility ought to become an obligation for publishers. I can't stand reading that "Windows 10 may not be supported" blah blah blah blah. We've heard it all before.Old games should ALWAYS be made to work on newer systems.
Post edited November 06, 2015 by Theoclymenus
Posted November 06, 2015
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monkeydelarge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s :(

No PC games...no cry...
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Theoclymenus: I thought that was going to be Bob Marley.
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nightcraw1er.488: Indeed, but that is why I still have several machines about the house, with most windows versions, and I have a fair few of the consoles (in duplicate). So I shan't be worrying too much about that, especially with emulators, dosbox, virtualisation etc. The problem lies in the vast majority (or as I tend to call it the lowest common denominator) group who throw things away each few months and buy the next great thing.
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Theoclymenus: I've thought of doing that too but where would it end ? Backwards compatibility ought to become an obligation for publishers. I can't stand reading that "Windows 10 may not be supported" blah blah blah blah. We've heard it all before.Old games should ALWAYS be made to work on newer systems.
Fact 1 about life: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JAJVAGC9M
Posted November 06, 2015
I would love to use exclusively GOG, big corporation paranoia versus DRM free aside, GOG is just too goddamned irrationally picky with their games.

Plenty of stuff I love has been rejected by GOG, enough to make me back off and only use it as a preferrex, but not exclusive, platform.
Posted November 06, 2015
Hello Folks !

After some considerations, I finally decided to give GoG a go(g) and I bought a bunch of Games to start :) ! Some i really wanted, some i dont know anything about to discover them !

I'm so happy to support DRM Free GOG Service :) !
Post edited November 06, 2015 by Rivdoric
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