I absolutely hate it when people say "retro games" and what they mean is Mario or Sonic. Most of them have never even heard of MS-DOS or Amiga.

Maybe I'm dismissing it too quickly, but this honestly looks like a console designed solely for people who are blinded by nostalgia for "the good old days". The fact that they're seriously advertising this with "features" such as having no system updates or game patches is ridiculous. If this thing actually gets funded, it will end up failing just like the OUYA did.

If Shovel Knight, Super Meat Boy, Mega Man Legacy Collection and Retro City Rampage will come to this, then i might "consider" buying it.

Yes, I agree with the above points. Its a great idea, with some nostalgia, to go back to the days of the SNES for instance. Wack the MarioKart cart into the slot and away you go. Unfortunately there are several points they will fail on. Firstly developers do not release finished products anymore. The need to get anything out as soon as possible to get revenue coming in, then patch it on an ongoing basis is now the business model.

Secondly there is too much competition by big and small players. PS4/Xbone, not to mention those still playing PS3. Then at the other end of the market, Ouya and other "retro" type consoles. There is a limited market to start with.

Thirdly, this is already covered. Most PC gamer's know about emulation, be it console emulation or DosBox etc. It is a far more flexible setup, found a game you want to play, get an emulator. ! piece of hardware should run everything.

Interesting idea but I don't see that working after the Ouya flop and the console is too limited with what it can do. The funding goal is definitely very hard to reach. Also the price on a level of Xbox360/PS4 definitely doesn't help. Don't see this getting funded.

Too limited games, more expensive than Ouya, you can get a Wii or add $100 more for a PS4
You can get a PC for $300 or other smart phone.

Don't see there are many customer blind by nostalgia after Ouya flop.

Nice to see some opinions here (even if most of them are on the negative side (: ).

I share some of the objections, actually - but personally, I think, I see more positives.

Some criticize the lack of online connection and "No patches" and "no updates".

I own some old consoles, and I was thinking about how it was back in the days, when these consoles were
"da shit", I came to this conclusion:

-I didn't need online (shit...there was no online!...like - at all!),
-I (very seldom-if at all) wished for patches (didn't knew that word back then, ffs),
-and updates? What updates? If I wanted a more powerful console, with better graphics and whatnot...I bought the next model (aka: next gen).

To be more clear:

Online-connection is still not needed, if you play [a] mostly alone, with friends that live near you, [c] with your family (spouse, kids) The keyword here is local MP.

Patches are not needed, if the devs care for their product - and I believe, that devs who knowingly develop for cartridges, do care for their product. They proved so, in the past.

Hey, sure...they can screw up...once...but how often do you think, people will buy another game from them, if they do?

And mind you - we're not talking about some youngsters, who will end up buying the next CoD (just an example) anyway, no matter how crappy the last one was...we're talking about grown up gamers, with decades of gaming experience, who definitely will judge you by your deeds, not by your fancy advertising.

People with the money and the right mindset for such a piece of tech.

Updates (in the sense of "new model/next gen") are not to be expected here. Well, not for quite some time, I would say. This is not your average console, with a successor already in mind, while the first is just coming out of planning phase.

Regarding the "my PC can emulate everything"...well, emulation has never been, and will never be, the same as playing the original hardware, and don't even think about your emulation being better as playing the original.Period.

As far as I understand it, they want to do something entirely on its own, with versions of old(er) games and new games specially done for their console.

This is not just another RetroN, where you put in your old cartridges. This is something new.

Of course, one thing has to be clear also: when you buy this, you will have to wait for your games...they will -most certainly- not be made with the impact rate, that other platforms see.

This console is meant for the connoisseur - not for the glutton.

So - you may disagree...and there is no way I or anyone else, could (or would want to) make you change your mind...but I -as an collector and user of old consoles- am very excited about the concept, and I hope, they reach their target.
I haven't given them any money, yet...but I will definitely do so, if the initial target gets met.

And if they don't meet their target?
Well - the world will continue to turn. :)


EDIT: Ooops...something went terribly wrong with the bolding...wasn't my fault - I promise!

I like the idea - really needed to get their own case design though.

But those cart prices seem a little steep for what they are, I know there are production costs but I would have thought the carts should be half that price the the system to stand a chance.

Two words : Atari Jaguar.

LOL, it really is the Jagwar! Talking about necro's. :^D
To be honest I like the idea about it, but I have become increasingly weary about crowdfunding to the point were I believe the only wise thing is to not pledge and wait for it to materialize and see where things are going.

Well, my personal experience with Kickstarts was (some minor annoyances put aside) entirely positive, so I am not really against spending some money on an idea alone...however, I too will wait until the end of their campaign, to see, if they will make it.

After all, this is not KS, but Indiegogo...I believe, the terms here are different from KS!?
(Your money will be pledged, even if the campaign's goal is not met...I think, I read that somewhere)

And I tend to agree with you on this: if they make it - you won't be worse off than the backers afterwards...you'll get the same console aside from the backer exclusive colours, etc.

Often enough, I thought to myself: if I hadn't pledged for game x or game y, I could have bought it later on for far less money ;o)

But ofc, there's a little vanity involved, I have to admit - reading your name in the credits of a game is really nice.

True.

First PC game I ever played was indeed a DOS game. Caverns of Zoarre. My first PC didn't even have windows. My retro games go back further than Mario and Sonic as well. In all honesty, the only Mario game I keep is Mario RPG, I am not a fan of Sonic.

Although

ret·ro1
/ˈretrō/

adjective
adjective: retro
1. imitative of a style, fashion, or design from the recent past.
"retro 60s fashions"

noun
noun: retro
1. clothes or music whose style or design is imitative of those of the recent past.
"a look that mixes Italian casual wear and American retro"

According to Google, perhaps retro isn't the correct word to use to begin with when referring to games from systems such as NES or Amiga. Since we aren't referring to remakes of older games, we are referring to the original game itself. Maybe we need a new word or just use classic? Any ideas? Could be fun.

Of course even old games had game breaking bugs. Original Jet Set Willy (for spectrum) had a bug that prevented the game to be completed, as you couldn't get past a certain point no matter what you did. It was as far I know never fixed off on the original release, but it was fixed for the numerous ports of the game.

The main reason modern games have so many bugs is mostly because the games themselves are much more complex and because companies have limited, yes even those huge AAA companies, resources to test them all out. Sure, there's an ugly example like Arkham Knight here and there when the buggy release if fully intentional, but at least companies these days try to fix the games.

I'm mostly referring to the myriad of self-named "Retro" youtube channels which *surprise surprise* are just hipsters playing NES/SNES games, without a C64/Amiga/DOS game to be seen.