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The game is free so I can't blame devs for the constant crashing so I will wait for fixes but GOG you should put a disclaimer like early access in the description of the game page. I bought Fallout 4 game of the year edition again on GOG so it would be easy to install which it is but you shouldn't have to download a mod from another site to make a game work. After that I was nearly to the end of the main quest line and now I am unable to access any save without crashing. I saved nearly every 5 to 10 minutes to avoid problems like this. I also looked on the internet for a good two hours troubleshooting to try to fix my problems. GOG don't advertise a game as working if it doesn't work or just say in the description that it is early access or that this mod is still in heavy development with bug/glitches. I am not asking for a refund on Fallout 4 GOTY but this thing comes off as false advertisement. The game is free and I don't want to taint my view on the dev team due to miscommunication so please fix this which this is my only complaint.
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People should really stop calling this a "game", this is NOT a "game", it is a "MOD". It is a modification that requires you to own the "base game" (FO4).
That by itself makes things a lot clearer.
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EV_Gamer: People should really stop calling this a "game", this is NOT a "game", it is a "MOD". It is a modification that requires you to own the "base game" (FO4).
That by itself makes things a lot clearer.
This distinction is really meaningless to people who are seeing news stories about it, then going to GOG's homepage and seeing a huge banner saying "Fallout London, out now!", and then being told to click a few buttons and start playing.

You could spend an hour patiently teaching them what a mod is, and how it works. At the end of that, they still can't play, and they're probably still upset about it.
Post edited July 28, 2024 by TechSgtChen
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EV_Gamer: People should really stop calling this a "game", this is NOT a "game", it is a "MOD". It is a modification that requires you to own the "base game" (FO4).
That by itself makes things a lot clearer.
It is advertised on the front page of GOG like a game with other games and some parts of the store page say words like ""game" with also saying "mod" so you could say one or the other. The store page also advertises as playable right out the gate but it isn't since it looks like alot of people maybe even a majority need a third party mod in order to get it "playable". However that is not even on the store page. I don't think it is the mod team's fault or anything like that just GOG. All I am asking for GOG to do is just write in the description, "still in development" or "early access". Overall it is just a oversight that can be fixed but if they don't it comes off as morally questionable/wrong.
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EV_Gamer: People should really stop calling this a "game", this is NOT a "game", it is a "MOD". It is a modification that requires you to own the "base game" (FO4).
That by itself makes things a lot clearer.
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TechSgtChen: This distinction is really meaningless to people who are seeing news stories about it, then going to GOG's homepage and seeing a huge banner saying "Fallout London, out now!", and then being told to click a few buttons and start playing.

You could spend an hour patiently teaching them what a mod is, and how it works. At the end of that, they still can't play, and they're probably still upset about it.
I know what a mod is and what it entails that is just not how it is advertised. Also since they both have the blessing of Bethesada if I remember right and GOG this can also come off as free DLC if not advertised or described as much. Fallout New Vegas is technically a "total conversion mod" since it uses alot if not a majority of Fallout 3 assets. However no one would call it that really with the only real difference being a price tag. Just fix the description and all sins will be forgiven, I am not asking for much.
Mods go into your data folder.
You can remove the mod by taking it out of your data folder.
To remove FOLON you delete the game, and reinstall Fallout 4.
It is not a mod in the context of the Fallout 4 Art. To call it a game modification is a semantic fallacy from the technical jargon of Fallout 4.
Post edited July 28, 2024 by Dumb_Robot
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Bluexcheese: The game is free so I can't blame devs for the constant crashing so I will wait for fixes but GOG you should put a disclaimer like early access in the description of the game page. I bought Fallout 4 game of the year edition again on GOG so it would be easy to install which it is but you shouldn't have to download a mod from another site to make a game work. After that I was nearly to the end of the main quest line and now I am unable to access any save without crashing. I saved nearly every 5 to 10 minutes to avoid problems like this. I also looked on the internet for a good two hours troubleshooting to try to fix my problems. GOG don't advertise a game as working if it doesn't work or just say in the description that it is early access or that this mod is still in heavy development with bug/glitches. I am not asking for a refund on Fallout 4 GOTY but this thing comes off as false advertisement. The game is free and I don't want to taint my view on the dev team due to miscommunication so please fix this which this is my only complaint.
Honestly, I would roll back any mod you felt you had to install in order to get the game to work. Its possible your save file is borked regardless and even in the future if the game is patched, you won't be able to play it. I'm not sure what mods people are installing to make the game playable but I've had no issues using GOG and I can only assume the problems people are having are not from the Fallout London install, but are encountering issues with specific hardware/software configurations.

I7-13700K, 6200 32GB DDR5, WD Black 2 TB, ASUS TUF 4090RTX, ASUS Prime Z790-A on Windows 11, 552.12 GPU drivers.
Total conversions are often very buggy. This isnt the first time nor will it be the last. Maybe months from now the problems will be worked out.

Having said that, they should not delete posts pointing out facts.
Post edited July 29, 2024 by samhill345
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Bluexcheese: The game is free so I can't blame devs for the constant crashing so I will wait for fixes but GOG you should put a disclaimer like early access in the description of the game page. I bought Fallout 4 game of the year edition again on GOG so it would be easy to install which it is but you shouldn't have to download a mod from another site to make a game work. After that I was nearly to the end of the main quest line and now I am unable to access any save without crashing. I saved nearly every 5 to 10 minutes to avoid problems like this. I also looked on the internet for a good two hours troubleshooting to try to fix my problems. GOG don't advertise a game as working if it doesn't work or just say in the description that it is early access or that this mod is still in heavy development with bug/glitches. I am not asking for a refund on Fallout 4 GOTY but this thing comes off as false advertisement. The game is free and I don't want to taint my view on the dev team due to miscommunication so please fix this which this is my only complaint.
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elanuzuru: Honestly, I would roll back any mod you felt you had to install in order to get the game to work. Its possible your save file is borked regardless and even in the future if the game is patched, you won't be able to play it. I'm not sure what mods people are installing to make the game playable but I've had no issues using GOG and I can only assume the problems people are having are not from the Fallout London install, but are encountering issues with specific hardware/software configurations.

I7-13700K, 6200 32GB DDR5, WD Black 2 TB, ASUS TUF 4090RTX, ASUS Prime Z790-A on Windows 11, 552.12 GPU drivers.
1.The only mods I had was Fallout London, Fallout Script Extender, Buffout, and High FPS Fix. These three mods were recommended to help stop crashes and it worked for awhile.
2.Yes, the saves are completely corrupted and I started from the beginning after 10/more hours. After you get to the end cities for the main quest stability starts going out the window.
3. Yeah it is amazing that things work for you so I am glad you had no problems.
4. I was being sarcastic with number 3. Nearly one to two fourths of forum post whether here, Reddit, Steam complains about crashes and what to do to fix/remedy it.
5. I have a nearly over a 1,000 dollar rig that I literally bought less than a few months ago with the lasted NVIDIA drivers with everything working squeaky clean so don't be coy about trying to insinuate that I am of the lower caste of the pc master race with saying," huh you must be poor and stupid and smell and that is why you can't play with your pathetic hardware like literally dude you probably forgot to update your drivers lowl".
6.GOG presents the mod like it is a official thing thing on the front page of the website/app. It says nothing about constant crashes/problems on page. So while you can't expect 100% of the content or performance to be there since it is free, I can atleast expect something stable enough to play for like a hour without crashing if it is asking me to buy the Fallout 4 GOTY edition on GOG. Which I was more than glad to since it looked fun/free.
7. GOG just needs to PUT early access or still development with bugs somewhere in the description. That is literally all that I am asking for. No refunds, no apologizes, just a couple of words added to the description.
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samhill345: Total conversions are often very buggy. This isnt the first time nor will it be the last. Maybe months from now the problems will be worked out.

Having said that, they should not delete posts pointing out facts.
Literally GOG could put in the descripition," it's buggy get used to it". I would be more than happy with it.
Post edited July 30, 2024 by Bluexcheese
The page of FOLON on GoG literally states it's a total conversion mod. There is no trickery involved. Everything is already clear. You're just being grumpy and trying to vent your frustration by accusing someone of doing something bad.
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Any_ILL: The page of FOLON on GoG literally states it's a total conversion mod. There is no trickery involved. Everything is already clear. You're just being grumpy and trying to vent your frustration by accusing someone of doing something bad.
Again though, that really doesn't mean anything to most people. None of those words alone or together. A much, much higher proportion of gamers would understand what "early access" means.

If you feel like only people who deeply understand the mod scene should be anywhere near Fallout London, I agree! But none of us who are making these complaints can control how they chose to market it.
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Any_ILL: The page of FOLON on GoG literally states it's a total conversion mod. There is no trickery involved. Everything is already clear. You're just being grumpy and trying to vent your frustration by accusing someone of doing something bad.
Fallout New Vegas is a total conversion mod what is your point? It is being advertised both as a mod and a "game" front page taking 1/4 of GOG screen asking for money in the payment of a copy of Fallout 4 GOTY. Didn't expect a Skyrim level of content right out the gate, didn't expect to be bad or good, I just wanted to give it a shot expecting just "stable enough performance". Game was crashing a majority of the time every 10ish minutes, told by people I should go 3rd party to Nexus to download a engine performance fix named Buffout and another one High FPS fix along with Fallout Script Extender. None of these where told to downloaded as requirements on front page like usually mods do for anything. Wow game starts working a majority of the time and I get up to 10 hours having fun. Get far in main quest and the game corrupts every single one of my saves. If the front page said early access or still in development with bugs I would have just shrugged my shoulders and went on with my day. However it didn't and all I have been asking is to add a couple words to the Fallout London page description. If it is added no harm no foul and if GOG ignores it than yeah that is false advertisement. If you are grumpy why don't you just admit it, no one with make fun of you atleast directly anyway.
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Any_ILL: The page of FOLON on GoG literally states it's a total conversion mod. There is no trickery involved. Everything is already clear. You're just being grumpy and trying to vent your frustration by accusing someone of doing something bad.
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TechSgtChen: Again though, that really doesn't mean anything to most people. None of those words alone or together. A much, much higher proportion of gamers would understand what "early access" means.

If you feel like only people who deeply understand the mod scene should be anywhere near Fallout London, I agree! But none of us who are making these complaints can control how they chose to market it.
People need a deep understanding of modding to play a mod? GOG is a game site not mod site. Lowl, it is a product presented on a store screen saying just download these two things and you are good to go to play. You read the description of presented products to inform your purchase like "early access". Fallout New Vegas in all essence is a total conversion mod saying hey just download the game to play. You both pay in some way whether a upfront price or another one like the requirement of Fallout 4 GOTY. I think you should stay far away from videos games since you don't seem to understand very much and this is coming from the person who just spilled some ice cream on his breast.
I remember the days when PC gamers where just nerds. Less complaining and way more civilized. Sometimes I wish a whole lot of people would stick to their consoles when they want to game.

Nothing personal. It just gets really old with nonstop screaming "Tourists" on PC gaming forums.
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maul_inc: I remember the days when PC gamers where just nerds. Less complaining and way more civilized. Sometimes I wish a whole lot of people would stick to their consoles when they want to game.

Nothing personal. It just gets really old with nonstop screaming "Tourists" on PC gaming forums.
So your saying you are a PC nerd who loves games but you are also saying to me for some reason go to a console if you "actually" want to play games lowl. I never even brought up console games lowl.