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As topic says. Please add the Amiga version for both games.
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Hoshi82: As topic says. Please add the Amiga version for both games.
Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy. The emulator won't work without Kickstart ROM and that one still isn't free.
There has been some progress in 3rd party ROMs, but they still are not 100% compatible.
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy.
Actually, it's trivial: publish with scummvm (but don't delete the executable). That way, it's up to the end user to provide the full emulated experience, if desired.
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Hoshi82: As topic says. Please add the Amiga version for both games.
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy. The emulator won't work without Kickstart ROM and that one still isn't free.
There has been some progress in 3rd party ROMs, but they still are not 100% compatible.
ScummVM though.
https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/DEV/elvira1/ (maybe compatibility is still not high enough? But when did this stop Gog lol?)
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy.
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darktjm: Actually, it's trivial: publish with scummvm (but don't delete the executable). That way, it's up to the end user to provide the full emulated experience, if desired.
GOG is pretty conservative with ScummVM. It use to be bundled when the game's been tested for years as a perfectly stable alternative to DOSBOX. EDIT: or if the use of ScummVM solves well known issues.
ScummVM use to be much more convenient and the game use to run smoother than DOSBOX in some cases, but they do not do it as a rule in every case. Also the developers or publishers have something to do in that regard.

If GOG does offer the DOSBOX version, the use of ScummVM externsally is more straightforward than the contrary for the standard user, specially if they choose the route of a ScummVM game version without the original exes. Games involving isos etc...

I use to agree with the use of ScummVM versions when the original DOS is well known to have glitches, defective performance, or cpu speed related issues.

All of this is not carved in stone, though.

Greetings
Post edited September 30, 2021 by Gudadantza
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy.
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darktjm: Actually, it's trivial: publish with scummvm (but don't delete the executable). That way, it's up to the end user to provide the full emulated experience, if desired.
Right, didn't think of that. In this case that solves the problem. I even run the Amiga version on ScummVM myself :)

Usually people ask for an Amiga Emulator.
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darktjm: Actually, it's trivial: publish with scummvm (but don't delete the executable). That way, it's up to the end user to provide the full emulated experience, if desired.
Please advise how one should run the Amiga version game under ScummVM? I mean what files are required.
Sad to see the DOS versions like Personal Nightmare. The Amiga/Atari ST versions make DOS version look like dirt.

I still have the Horrorsoft collection on cd-rom, just no cd-rom drive anymore.


Welp, this almost looked like a good purchase.
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darktjm: Actually, it's trivial: publish with scummvm (but don't delete the executable). That way, it's up to the end user to provide the full emulated experience, if desired.
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Cadaver747: Please advise how one should run the Amiga version game under ScummVM? I mean what files are required.
The files are listed on these ScummVM wiki pages:
[url=https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Elvira:_Mistress_of_the_Dark]https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Elvira:_Mistress_of_the_Dark[/url]
[url=https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Elvira_2:_The_Jaws_of_Cerberus]https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php?title=Elvira_2:_The_Jaws_of_Cerberus[/url]
Post edited September 30, 2021 by baronsmoki
Elvira: Mistress of the Dark (ScummVM page, including Amiga version):
wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Elvira:_Mistress_of_the_Dark
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baronsmoki:
thank you!
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Post edited September 30, 2021 by Cadaver747
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Gudadantza: GOG is pretty conservative with ScummVM. It use to be bundled when the game's been tested for years as a perfectly stable alternative to DOSBOX. EDIT: or if the use of ScummVM solves well known issues.
Well, we are talking about providing it as an extra, though, not as the primary game. And in this case, it solves the "well-known issue" of, as mentioned above, having to deal with Cloanto or whoever to provide needed ROMs.
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Gudadantza: GOG is pretty conservative with ScummVM. It use to be bundled when the game's been tested for years as a perfectly stable alternative to DOSBOX. EDIT: or if the use of ScummVM solves well known issues.
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darktjm: Well, we are talking about providing it as an extra, though, not as the primary game. And in this case, it solves the "well-known issue" of, as mentioned above, having to deal with Cloanto or whoever to provide needed ROMs.
But, frankly, is there any notable difference between the DOS an Amiga version? In a lot of games the Amiga version is superior and in that case the addition of the amiga version via ScummVM would be convenient.

But Well. Anyway even in this case, why not. The more the available copies, the best. But honestly, I don't believe we will see it soon. Sometimes the respective rights for the game can be different depending the platform. Different studios developing the Amiga vs the DOS version.

It can be tried. A new entry in the community wishlist.

Greetings
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Hoshi82: As topic says. Please add the Amiga version for both games.
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy. The emulator won't work without Kickstart ROM and that one still isn't free.
There has been some progress in 3rd party ROMs, but they still are not 100% compatible.
Right, so, this fellow is correct. The Amiga Kickstart Rom still costs money. Still, I wonder what we'd be looking at to license it on a scale like what GOG would need. Like, would I be alone in saying I'd pay a bit to license the rom, or re-buy some amiga version games, at maybe a slightly higher price to cover licensing? I dunno, there's gotta be a way, right?
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Gudadantza: But, frankly, is there any notable difference between the DOS an Amiga version? In a lot of games the Amiga version is superior and in that case the addition of the amiga version via ScummVM would be convenient.
Amiga versions are better than DOS versions for games released before 1991 (most of the time), but in case of Elvira series I think all 2 or even 4 games, if we count ...A Personal Nightmare (1989) and Waxworks (1992), are better on Amiga, even though it's the same composer / sound programmer Dave Hasler in credits to Elvira 1 for both Amiga and DOS versions.

Amiga version has different sound track and it's much better than DOS even if set up for MT-32 or General MIDI (MT-32 / GM music is not bad but it's really weak in comparison), also the Amiga version has additional sounds like the wolf howling in intro and a small piece of voice over for Elvira upon first meeting, check this out and see for yourself:

DOS Music comparison (Sound Blaster vs MT-32) - in order to change Sound Blaster to MT-32 or GM (music for these should be identical) you need to run the setup.exe file under DOS or DOSBox, see attached
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jylat9ndsGE

DOS Intro (on Sound Blaster):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wjzeHJCy_g

Amiga Intro - notice the huge difference in tone and atmosphere, additional sounds like bells and wolf howling and Elvira little *speech* part, the music is grim and dark fitting the dire situation pretty well in my opinion:
https://youtu.be/7Y1bPz8AERE
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Post edited October 01, 2021 by Cadaver747
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neumi5694: Publishing Amiga games in a emulator is not that easy. The emulator won't work without Kickstart ROM and that one still isn't free.
There has been some progress in 3rd party ROMs, but they still are not 100% compatible.
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tehzig: Right, so, this fellow is correct. The Amiga Kickstart Rom still costs money. Still, I wonder what we'd be looking at to license it on a scale like what GOG would need. Like, would I be alone in saying I'd pay a bit to license the rom, or re-buy some amiga version games, at maybe a slightly higher price to cover licensing? I dunno, there's gotta be a way, right?
ScummVM does not require amiga roms to run amiga games (afaik).