Edit: Current pressing question: I've got a highlighted list in TES4Edit after running a conflict filter. I have no idea what to do with the results, nor how to post them. Edit2: That is, it doesn't seem obvious which colours indicate an "unresolved conflict" or "dangerous conflict", or something like that. Edit3: Starting to have some idea of what to do. Edit4: Nope, not a clue.

So I have a modlist weighted heavily towards realism, difficulty, and graphical improvements (in no particular order). It was working a few weeks ago, for a given definition of "working" that includes "occasionally crashes when I draw a weapon" ;) Anyway, since then I've added Oblivion Reloaded, and it now doesn't load at all (CTD when loading mods).

So yeah, buggy modlist even before OR, but I do want to keep OR. So I'm hoping the forum can help me with trimming out conflicting mods. I've read through and eliminated the obvious ones I found, but that still leaves, well, 196 possible conflicts for every mod... Including all the non-obvious ones and the ones I didn't find. Plus, I would not be surprised if I missed a compatibility patch or three.

Help, please? :)

Edit: All mods have been cleaned with TES4Edit (except for "85 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]", which reports problems in BOSS, but nothing to clean in TES4Edit) and ones marked "Do not clean"; Boss has been run, and I've built a Bashed Patch.

Modlist:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.40]
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]
07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
08 bookplacing.esm [Version 1]
09 realisticleveling.esm
0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5]
0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9]
0E Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
11 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
12 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
13 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
14 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
15 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
16 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]
17 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]
18 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
19 Realistic Water.esp
1A Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.3]
1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36]
1C AliveWaters.esp
1D AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
1E AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
1F Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
20 Better Clocks.esp
21 Dialogue Idles.esp
22 p1dseeyousleep.esp
23 camping.esp
24 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.9]
25 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]
26 RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.9]
** VA_BetterGold.esp
27 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
28 Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3]
29 OblivionReloaded.esp
2A DLCHorseArmor.esp
2B DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2C DLCOrrery.esp
2D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
2E DLCVileLair.esp
2F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
30 p1dseeyousleep - dlcvilelair.esp
31 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
32 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
33 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
34 CapesandCloaks.esp
++ nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp
35 PSMainQuestDelayer.esp
36 DLCThievesDen.esp
37 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]
38 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]
39 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
3A Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
3B Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
3C FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
3D Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
3E FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
3F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.40]
++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp
++ Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
40 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.8b1]
42 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
43 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.8b1]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp [Version 3.8b1]
46 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.8b1]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
49 Trade and Commerce.esp
4A ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
4B ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
4C Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0]
4D Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
4E LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.7]
4F za_bankmod.esp
50 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp
51 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
52 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]
53 DLCFrostcrag.esp
54 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
55 Emporium.esp
56 Knights.esp
57 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]
58 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
59 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]
5A xuldarkforest.esp [Version 2]
5B xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 2]
5C xulTheHeath.esp [Version 2]
5D xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 2]
5E xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 2]
5F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 2]
60 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 2]
61 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 2]
62 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 2]
63 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 2]
64 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 2]
65 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 2]
66 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 2]
67 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 2.0.0]
68 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 2]
69 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 2]
6A xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 2]
6B xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 2]
6C xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 2]
6D xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 2]
6E xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 2]
6F xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 2]
70 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 2]
71 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 2]
72 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 2]
73 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 2]
74 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 2]
75 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 2]
76 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 2]
77 Unique Landscapes.esp [Version Dummy]
78 ULS OscurosOblivionOverhaul-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp [Version 2]
79 ULE KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp [Version 2.0]
7A ULM ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 2]
7B ULM ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp [Version 2]
7C ULM ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 2]
7D ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
7E ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
7F ULS ImpeREALForts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp [Version 2]
80 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
81 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
82 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
83 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0]
84 Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5]
85 Better Dungeons.esp
86 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]
87 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
88 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
89 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]
8A basic primary needs.esp [Version 6.3]
8B refscope.esp [Version 2.1.2]
8C SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
8D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]
8E SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]
8F DenockArrowToo.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.8b1]
90 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]
++ OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
++ OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
++ OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
++ OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
91 OOOShiveringIsles.esp
++ OOOSI-EyeDisabler.esp
** OOOSIArcheryPatch.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
92 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36]
93 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
94 maskar's oblivion overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.1]

Have you used the Oblivion Mod Conflict Detector? Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/2579/?

I didn't even know there was an Oblivion Mod Conflict Detector! Heh. :D

Thanks. :)

Edit: I tried to download it, and I got "An error has occurred."

A google search told me to try to load all the mods into TES4Edit, which tells me that I'm missing "Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm"

I don't see that in "Francesco's Creatures and Items" installer, so I'll check the Nexus for Franscesco's related stuff.

Edit: Ok, so it is a part of Francescos mod; it's just not installed by the wizard. Wat?

Maybe the problem is that I combined V5B1 with V5B2? Seemed the logical thing to do with an update... I'll try installing them separately...

Edit2: Last time, I used "Select All" when loading in TES4Edit. This time, I just went with its selection, which doesn't seem to include stuff used by Bashed Patch. It all loaded, so I'm running a conflict filter on it.

Not sure what I'll do with the results, but maybe I'll see something useful.

Edit3: Yeah, uh, I have no idea what to do with it. It's a mass of colours with no clue what to do with it. I mean, the information page tells me what the colours mean, but that doesn't tell me what to do about them. :/

Oh, and I've got a few custom BOSS rules, because previous to adding Oblivion Reloaded, loading those mods wasn't working without them. I should probably post those, so here they are:

Rule Applied Details (if applicable)
Sort ULM ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp after Unique Landscapes.esp ✓
Sort ULM ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp after ULM ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp ✓
Sort ULM ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp after ULM ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp ✓
Sort Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp after Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp ✗ Rule is disabled.
Sort ULE KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp after Unique Landscapes.esp ✓
Sort ULS OscurosOblivionOverhaul-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp after Unique Landscapes.esp ✓
Sort ULS ImpeREALForts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp after ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp ✓
Sort OOOSI-EyeDisabler.esp after OOOShiveringIsles.esp ✓

I had no problem downloading it today. Did you try to use the download manager? Try again, and use manual download. Good luck!

Or try the Oblivion Mod Manager (the Conflict Detector is derived from OBMM): http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/2097/?
(there are other links, in case you have a general problem with nexus download).

Had time to work on this again. :)

Ok, so the thing is, I can load them up in TES4Edit, and I can filter for critical items, but I don't know how to tell which items are actually "bad" or need fixing. Some more google searching might tell me.

It turns out MMM wasn't properly installed; fixed that. MMM also wanted a couple of compatibility patches, one of which was "The Heath", but I have no idea where they can be found. Not in Unique Landscapes patches; not in FCOM Optional Add-Ons; not anywhere I've looked. Fixed a couple other things (uninstalled Enhanced Camera, because Oblivion Reloaded has its own; fixed something else). Still crashes.

Anyway, I'll edit the current mod list into the first post.

*Bump*

I guess you followed the installation instructions in https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/17784.

I myself used MMM 37 (some time ago), without any problems, especially with no need to install "The Heath", whatever that is. But then I didn't use many other mods (only UOP, OOO and Lore Creatures, if I remember correctly, I'm not sure about SI).

I am currently in the process of preparing to re-install mods incrementally. And thank you; sleepy me missed that section.

So I re-installed down to and including *"FCOM". Anyway, now it's crashing on Oblivion startup. Turns out, OBSI.ini has an "enable crash dump" option. Crash .dmp file says "The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access."

Edit: Oblivion.exe is reported as the source of the error. 4GB patch has been unapplied by verifying local files, and re-copying the OBSE .exe and .dlls. This did not fix the error.

Same error in the crash .dmp each time, AFAICT.

OBSE plugins are:
Blockhead (Blockhead.dll)
Elys Universal Silent Voice (Elys_USV.dll)
Oblivion Reloaded (OblivionReloaded.dll)
OBSE Jail Fix (obse_jail_fix.dll) // Added by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch
OBSE Training Fix (obse_training_fix.dll) // Added by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch

* Installation order from here: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/17784

It has been over two weeks since I asked for help, and only one person showed up. Thank you, Greywolf1.

Why? I am hurt, and confused, and frankly, more than a little angry.

I am obviously not sitting around waiting for other people to solve it. I can't see all the problems here; I am only one person. I don't have much time to work on this, and I'd really like to get to playing. And I know I'm not the only person on here with a long or complex modlist.

If I've violated some forum etiquette, tell me. I am literally autistic.

I've noticed your thread and I've skimmed through it when you updated it. The mod conflict seems like a rather complex problem to solve, but personally, I really know nothing about it. From the whole TES series, I only occasionally play Morrowind on which I run like 3 mods (for bugfixing, the Master-Propylon-Index and a spell).
I can't tell for certain, but I would imagine the reason that there is little feedback is that the biggest part of the GOG community either couldn't solve the problem or has no idea how they would even start solving this mod conflict. (When I saw Greywolf1's link to the Oblivion Mod Conflict Detector the first thing I did was add it to my bookmarks for future reference.)

As I said: I'm not very familiar with this topic, but there might be people in Bethesda's forums or in the forums of sites that host the mods that might be more help to you - provided you haven't already tried those.

All I can do is to wish you best of luck. So: Best of luck!

I guess most people are simply frightened off by your modlist. To be honest, my first reaction, when I read your original post, was "how can he expect so many mods to work together?" (and the second one was "what does he need so many mods for?", but that's not for me to judge). And I just glanced over the modlist quickly, without giving it detailed thoughts. Bear in mind that most mod creators don't worry much about compatibility (some, not all, give warnings what kind of incompatibilities are to be expected), nor are there any standards concerning mod design (and you never know how computer literate or illiterate a mod creator is).

In another thread you talked about installing mods incrementally, which is a good idea. Apply a mod, test it, and back it up, if it works. If not, try to find out what's wrong (using the Oblivion Construction Set, a mod conflict detector, internet searches or other means) and restore the previous backup, if you can't find a solution. Try again with a different mod, etc...
In this way you should be able to isolate the troublemakers, and it's also easier to describe a problem on the forum and more likely to get help here. Important: Document what you are doing and what a backup contains, and don't delete your backups before you have arrived at a satisfactory set of mods, as you might want to try a different mod implementation sequence.
Regarding the sequence of the incremental mod installations, there are many possibilities. I would either go for personal priorities, or for mods which are known for being compatible in principle first (like the unofficial patches and the mods of the FCOM Convergence project).
If you are seriously determined to go through such a process, I wish you good luck. I myself probably wouldn't have the stamina to do it, and settle for a smaller, easier manageable mod list. But then, if you like problem solving, then it might be an exciting experience, and it's certainly more interesting to "play" this "game" (problem solving) than to play boring computer games - and cheaper than to invest in new ones :-).

Anyway I will tell you the issues your load order had.

14 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
16 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]

Choose one or the other. I would remove 14 natural weather if I were you.

18 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
19 Realistic Water.esp

Why use two plugins for the same stuff? Actually three because you are supposed to use Oblivion reloaded that already touches water.

1C AliveWaters.esp
1D AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
1E AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Are these from the updated version of alivewaters?



1F Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Don't use it. Find a .espless version for book graphics. Don't waste .esp and actually overload the engine for a few books.

22 p1dseeyousleep.esp

If I remember well I never used this because it needed a few compatibility patches and the problem is that you cna't find them in one place only

** VA_BetterGold.esp

You don't need this nor the meshes with it because OOO already touches this

28 Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3]

Don't use this. Generic npcs are worthless if they steal your precious fps. See a few crowded roads for no point makes no sense. At least use tamriel travellers from COREPc, that one has sense.

34 CapesandCloaks.esp

Decided not to use it but cant' remember the why

40 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

Not needed anymore

44 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.8b1]

Clean this even if boss says otherwise. There was a long discussion on the old bethesda forum where it was stated that this plugin needs cleaning (if you take a more in depth look, you'll see that the entries removed are not present in the same plugin version no gates)

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.8b1]
Wrong plugin, use the fcom version

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]

This adds almost nothing and is not worth having an .esp. Use kobal's OOO Shivering isles to cover that part of the game

49 Trade and Commerce.esp

You need the update for it.


59 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]
5A xuldarkforest.esp [Version 2]
5B xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 2]
5C xulTheHeath.esp [Version 2]
5D xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 2]
5E xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 2]
5F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 2]
60 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 2]
61 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 2]
62 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 2]
63 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 2]
64 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 2]
65 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 2]
66 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 2]
67 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 2.0.0]
68 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 2]
69 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 2]
6A xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 2]
6B xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 2]
6C xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 2]
6D xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 2]
6E xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 2]
6F xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 2]
70 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 2]
71 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 2]
72 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 2]
73 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 2]
74 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 2]
75 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 2]
76 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 2]
77 Unique Landscapes.esp [Version Dummy]

Would just use the merged plugin. Less hassle for loading too for your oblivion and computer.

78 ULS OscurosOblivionOverhaul-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp [Version 2]

You don't need a merged patch in oblivion. Bashed patch take care of what you are looking for. Unless this comes from vorian's archives?

80 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

Bugged


++ OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
++ OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
++ OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
++ OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp

You don't need these. You have the bashed patch to do this work.

Last info: 91 OOO Shivering isles is the plugin you are supposed to use instead of the martigen plugin for SHIVEring isles

Don't use maskar with fcom. More than overkill

Ok, so I had a large, massive reply to everyone, but GoG seems to have eaten it, rather than posted it.

Gonna break it into chunks and post it; here's the first chunk.
Thanks. I...have had some rather strangely bad experiences online. Or badly strange? Both? Part of the problem is that, being autistic, I have trouble "getting subtext", so people can see weird things in what I post that I have no idea are there. And the other part is, I can (and do) entirely miss other people's subtext. And the other part of it is, I only recently found out I'm autistic, so it just looked to me like occasionally someone would randomly decide to hate me or something odd like that.

Anyway, yeah, I think I need a specialized forum.

...Possibly for that, too. :lol:

Sure. I'll post the current one, which has the memory access bug.

The entire game folder, the Oblivion "My Games" folder, and all mod folders are under the same .git version control through the magic of shortcuts, so I can basically pull in anything I've got committed.

Modlist
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.40]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5]
08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9]
0B Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]
0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
0F Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
10 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
11 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
12 Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3]
13 OblivionReloaded.esp
14 DLCHorseArmor.esp
15 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
18 DLCVileLair.esp
19 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
1A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
1C DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp
1D DLCThievesDen.esp
1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]
1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]
20 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
21 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
22 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
23 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
24 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.40]
++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp
25 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
26 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.8b1]
27 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
28 FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp [Version 0.9.8]
29 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8]
2A Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.8b1]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp [Version 3.8b1]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b7]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.8b1]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
30 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
31 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]
32 DLCFrostcrag.esp
33 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
34 Knights.esp
35 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
37 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
38 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
39 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]
3A SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
3B SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]
3C SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3D Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]
++ OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
++ OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
++ OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
++ OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
3E OOOShiveringIsles.esp
++ OOOSI-EyeDisabler.esp
** OOOSIArcheryPatch.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
3F Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
40 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
41 maskar's oblivion overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.1]