just because it's CDPR means that they get the benefit of being innocent until they've actually done something shady.

when and if they add microtransactions ... then you can and should call them out for it. but they haven't actually done it yet and they've definitely earned the right of not being called on things they haven't done yet.

Thank you.

Oh please, give me a break. CDPR do shady shit all the time. Just cause they're less bad than competitors does not make them good. They definitely should be held on a very short leash, if for no other reason, then at least because they themselves want to be held up to a higher standard than other companies.

That being said, you are completely correct that all that can be said about micro-transactions here is pure speculation and should be taken with a grain of salt. And there is no sense in roasting them for something they may not even be planning. But, by the same logic, you also can't go and assume they are innocent and have 'earned the right' to any preferential treatment.

Just leave it at saying they are innocent until proven guilty, just like any other dev, no more, no less.

'Sure' is an overly strong word, but I agree, they (still) care about their consumer-friendly reputation too much to dabble in that sort of thing.

If it is done well, DLC may not be the worst way of providing the game with longevity.

I said that purely based on how well they did with the Witcher 3 dlcs

We have new information on the MP;

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-multiplayer-required-extra-work-to-make-sure-it-fit-with-the-lore/

TL;DR
multiplayer required extra work ‘to make sure it fit with the lore’

First off, The mp portion is not made by CDPR; Rather, it is made by a partnet company called Digital Scapes, located in Canada. These guys have experience in making multiplayers for Company of Heroes, Warhammer 40,000, Dying Light, Prototype, and more, so I would say we are in good hands when it comes to the design of the multiplayer

(Below is purely my speculation)
Secondly, although they said they can't talk about it much since it's still in R&D phase, since the MP will be in the lore of Cyberpunk 2077, maybe we'll be part of the ongoing-gang war or part of law enforcement trying to bring order to the city. Maybe a re-usage of some part of the map from SP.

Whichever side you are on, you know you must bring victory to your faction to take control of the city. There are regular street gun battles (TDM), capture terminals and download data while fighting off the enemy forces OR take the terminals from them (Control Point), stealing intel and bringing them to the extraction point (Capture the Flag), attack/defend a base of operation (Kinda like rush mode from Battlefield?), and finally, sabotage the enemy cargo by planting a bomb (Search and Destroy).

Those ideas might sound really standard but think about all the cybernetic-themed abilities and perks that can be implemented. Maybe a serum and gives a temporary buff to damage resistance or health, invisibility, hacking to disrupt enemy gadgets or turn them against the users (make turrets target the ally?), or the ability to see heat signatures or defect nearby enemies.

You seriously want them to commit to supporting the game in a stone dead and unsupported OS environment? As I've told you before, this one is less on CDPR and rather more on MS. But even you don't want to break yourself on the rock that getting MS to carry on supporting Win 7, do you?

As for return of m/w option, not likely. But it will probably be something you can mod since I imagine that it really was just textboxes on the menu and voice asset selection criteria that was removed. I cannot imagine that they would mess around with anything deeper than that this close to release, with this much character-dependent content created.

The risk of screwing something up (well above zero) far exceeds the potential reward (a tiny bit of positive goodwill in a segment that will hate the game anyway, more publicity that the game already has quite a lot of) of that sort of change. The change makes sense if it's a sub-hour risk-free effort, not if it actually involves tampering with the core workings of the game.

Finally, you want 3PV in a game that CDPR has spent years telling players would be first person. They could add more cutscenes and in principle they should be quite able to make such addition optional, meaning an options toggle for "additional cutscenes", but cutscenes have to be crafted with some care. This one I think is less unrealistic, if enough people ask nicely.

Still, time spent adding additional cutscenes and 3PV scenes is time they are spending on something that is not additional content that can be sold for profit. I reckon there'd have to be some serious interest for this in a segment they consider important for them to go through the effort.

Anyway, you do you. I'm not saying you should give up hope, but some of the things you're wishing for are bordering on world peace in terms of how unrealistic they would seem to be.
Depends a bit on how it's done. Path of Exiles is a bit shady in terms of pricing and even cosmetic only mtx can very easily end up building addiction, but the one thing that sort of justifies PoE is that the game is F2P.

But a game that you're already paying full triple-A price for? That's just rubbish. That said, I didn't really mind what BL2 was doing with those extremely bad skinpacks that you could buy for a few bucks. They were ugly as heck and a drop in the ocean relative to all the regularly available skins.

I've been noticing a trend in gaming lately, where companies continue to act more and more anti-consumer with zero consequences. The truth is, gamers are some of the most gullible and easily fooled consumers on earth. Draw up some crappy looking skins in an afternoon, stick a $20 price tag on them, and watch the money flow in. Ubisoft just released the most pay2win AAA game in history and all anybody can do is go 'meh'.

Game companies can be as awful as they want and there are 0 consequences. Reputation in this industry means almost nothing. If it did, EA would have sunk years ago. Instead, they're the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful publisher in the industry.

Multiplayer?!

This makes me sad *sniff*

Wish they would just spend all their time / resources on making Cyberpunk the best game it can be.
Multiplayer in a game like this should be an afterthought for sure.

Maybe some giant DLC update a year after release or something?

I don't know....

But I don't like it guys.
I love CDproject Red, but the thing that scares me is shareholders.
They have greed like a methhead has a crack itch.


I hope things work out in the long run.

but the multiplayer is coming out at least a year after release; which they've been testing and discussing for at least a year at this point. i'm confused what you're scared about. that cdpr will rush the multiplayer element? for a game they've been working on for, by the time it's launched, 8 years? especially in light of their direct competition, rdr2, in terms of polish; because they stated that they want the game to be as polished as rdr2, even more so.

i understand your anxiety about shareholders. that's real and i sympathise. but cdpr might be the most meticulous aaa developer the industry has right now. be brave, steel your resolve, try to trust. i think we're gonna be okay, boys and gals. i think we're gonna be okay.

...and, that's on top of whatever single player dlc they give the game (hopefully something involving orbital air and the moon)

How about around now? ;) Article about it.

i droped my preorder so nice they went from OMG il buy anything from them to Hell NO ! and before anyone says TRUST THEM well i did thats why i preorderd when they said We leave the greed for others annnnnnnnnnnnnd now MP will have microtransactions *slow clap*

I'm not going to cancel my pre-order, because I made that pre-order as a thank you to CDPR for holding the line for so long and I'm willing to let that money go down the toilet if that's what CDPR wants to do with it. I'm also not really a fan of cancel culture: just because someone or a company does one thing that concerns me doesn't mean that they're instantly dead to me.

That said, this does concern me. There's a reason microtransactions and multi-player is such a cancer, and that's because it's extremely profitable, way more profitable than the "spend 5 years in development and then a year per DLC" model. Multiplayer, if done well, retains player bases for years, and those player bases drive additional sales of the product (your friends push you to get the game so you can play with them), and microtransactions can turn a couple days of work into big cash for the company. It makes sense from a business perspective, so much so that if CDPR doesn't go this route, they might not be able to compete with the rest of the AAA industry, but at the same time, if they go the same route as the AAA industry, they may become just like everyone else in the AAA industry and then what's the point of favoring them over anyone else?

So I'll wait and watch. They have my money for CP2077 and they can keep it. We'll see how it plays out before they get my money for CP2078.

You're going to have to move on at some point. Microsoft will stop supporting Windows 7 in January of 2020, which means you'll be dead in the water regarding security updates and the like, and if you want to know what that looks like, check out Windows XP and the ransomeware that swept through that community. There might, maybe, be some non-MS people who offer updates, but it's in Microsoft's interests to quash any support for Win7 to encourage you to buy buy buy the latest versions.

If you really want to stick it to those greedy corporations, you're probably better off switching to Linux, especially the versions that have dedicated support teams like Ubuntu, and then advocating for CDPR to support that OS.

Related to the CDPR CEO you better have your CREDIT CARD HANDY because they gonna "Monetize" you!
See my Post about why I canceled the Pre-Order. There is a Link of the whole INVESTOR PHONE CONFERENCE and you can hear it yourself...

No microtransactions. Monetization.

https://www.gry-online.pl/newsroom/cyberpunk-2077-tryb-multiplayer-jest-na-wczesnym-etapie-tworzenia/z31d09e

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