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100+ hours so far and not disappointed some bugs and errors at times, but it was nothing extremely bad and some funny bugs a long the way certain things yeah would have been nice, a haircut option during the game it self and maybe options to get the cars we have painted.
Transmog would have been great or option to hide head gear, game it self the story i liked the story and gotten through the second out of the 4 or so endings now, and i plan on playing another round just lower difficulty this time and getting some more of the achievements done.
Sure it sucks for console players with the amount of game breaking bugs and the outright lie of it running with out issues on current gen consoles and looking extremely well on next gen consoles, the game has optimization issues sure on all fronts, however it lived up to my hype for the game it self but then again i did not go overboard thinking this would be some entire universe set in the cyberpunk lore we could interact with i understood it would have limitations.
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Alias117: 100+ hours so far and not disappointed some bugs and errors at times, but it was nothing extremely bad and some funny bugs a long the way certain things yeah would have been nice, a haircut option during the game it self and maybe options to get the cars we have painted.
Transmog would have been great or option to hide head gear, game it self the story i liked the story and gotten through the second out of the 4 or so endings now, and i plan on playing another round just lower difficulty this time and getting some more of the achievements done.
Sure it sucks for console players with the amount of game breaking bugs and the outright lie of it running with out issues on current gen consoles and looking extremely well on next gen consoles, the game has optimization issues sure on all fronts, however it lived up to my hype for the game it self but then again i did not go overboard thinking this would be some entire universe set in the cyberpunk lore we could interact with i understood it would have limitations.
I am happy that ,for some people, this game is not the trash fire that it is for me.
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wayke: As the trailers show Cinematic sequences that may appear like gameplay and those who complain want to use this as their reason for hate not even a reason ,literally every damn game trailer has had exaggerated Cutscene rubbish but at least CDPR used content that is in the game even if it's cutscene cinematic and not some made up crap that never happens.
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zatom.gozu: they did not use content that is in the game, thats the whole point. the "This is not Final we want to give you a Glimpse of what's possible in the released game" is not a glimpse it is showing a whole different direction
they do show GAMEPLAY and not ingame cutscenes which do not even exist at cutscenes anymore
and im not talking about "hey i saw that in the video and now i dont find it" they talked about mechanics, how they work. the whole mechanics are not there (choices matter, wall running, etc)

keanu doesnt even say wake up samurai.... as i said im not on the hate train, i dont like the game for the same reasons i dont like any recent games, but i am more disappointed BECAUSE they lied even more than other studios
the good guys lied more than all the known scumbags, thats whats so disappointing
not cyberpunk died, the hope into cdpr died
The Trailer videos I went back over and the 100+ hours I have the significant portions of those trailers I've seen that content in game.
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thefallenalchemist: For the comments about nudity, I play a lot of h-games and it seems like what you're looking for is straight porn. H-games have come a long way, I recommend something like Honey Select 2 if you're just looking to watch sex scenes. You can design your characters on a level that is further than any I've seen in a game. So just make the characters you wanted to see have sex and then watch them go at it with relatively high graphics capabilities. AI Shoujo is good for sex scenes with a basic story plot.

However, I was actually looking forward to Cyberpunk as something different. Sure, it has lewd content, but I frankly have enough of that as it is. I just wanted Cyberpunk and being that guy who listens to synthwave on the daily and loves the whole Cyberpunk genre (not just the game) I am pretty happy with what I got here. I have said this a million times, this isn't just a game for me, it's an experience. Heck, I love the fact that I can literally walk around in a world that looks like synthwave album covers ore reminds me of Hardware, Johnny Mnemonic, Blade Runner and other great films. It even has dancing hologram girls, like Joi.
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midrand: I'm not quite sure where you are coming from, but majority of the players I have seen commenting, myself included, never mentioned asking for porn or wanting porn. There is more than enough porn out there on the internet. What we are complaining about is the cognitive dissonance between the setting (strip bar, prostitute, romance scene, naked character in the inventory menu including detailed genitals) and the visuals of heavily censored / clothed actors IN THOSE SETTINGS. This game aims to simulate a mature dystopian setting, where anything goes really. Yet the "adult" themes in this setting are so far removed from a typical adult scene you would see in a strip bar or red light district in real life today that it becomes a joke. This is what the complaint is about - if you are bringing those themes into your proclaimed adult game, then bring them in properly (and as advertised by CDPR).

Nobody forced CDPR to boast their genital choice diversity or to include the strip bars / prostitutes into their game. They could have avoided both by simply not having it in game - and then there would be no need to have nudity at all. Either do something properly or don't do it - that's the heart of the matter.
How is that not porn then, mate? You want to see nudity, which is described as porn or X-rated content in most entertainment media. People walking around, naked, performing sexual gyrations or anything similar is going to roll into X-rated content. That's literally what pornographic material was. Playboy was an X-rated magazine, Hustler was an XXX-rated magazine. You're literally asking for X-rated content in a game that was headed to consoles. I play and have started writing professional reviews of adult games. I know what constitutes pornography. And I also know what will never be allowed on a console. That's full on graphic displays of nudity and sex all over the damn place, which is what you want.

This isn't about even pornography as an issue. This is the fact that there has never been an AO Game in the history of modern gaming for consoles. I can name off dozens of games that came close, but what you are asking for is straight up pornography and console restrictions set forth by the ESRB would not allow it. Same reason why hot selling steam games like Koikatsu Party when it first dropped are not making their way onto consoles. The best you can hope for are nudity mods, which will soon come. Fans will make it an X-rated game or an XXX-Rated game, but I don't think CDPR had Lula in mind when they were designing the sexual aspects of it.
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zatom.gozu: they did not use content that is in the game, thats the whole point. the "This is not Final we want to give you a Glimpse of what's possible in the released game" is not a glimpse it is showing a whole different direction
they do show GAMEPLAY and not ingame cutscenes which do not even exist at cutscenes anymore
and im not talking about "hey i saw that in the video and now i dont find it" they talked about mechanics, how they work. the whole mechanics are not there (choices matter, wall running, etc)

keanu doesnt even say wake up samurai.... as i said im not on the hate train, i dont like the game for the same reasons i dont like any recent games, but i am more disappointed BECAUSE they lied even more than other studios
the good guys lied more than all the known scumbags, thats whats so disappointing
not cyberpunk died, the hope into cdpr died
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wayke: The Trailer videos I went back over and the 100+ hours I have the significant portions of those trailers I've seen that content in game.
are you getting paid or do you hope for a free game or something?
in this topic was a video posted that shows a lot of cut content but you shill for no reason like low effort troll

people like you are the reason why cyberpunk is such a mediocre game
Post edited December 26, 2020 by zatom.gozu
There are a number of reasons why this kind of thing can't happen and let me go into further detail as this is my territory. I buy games from DLSite on the regular as well as Jast, MangaGamer, Nutaku and others which I promote and am affiliated with. I'm Mr. Degeneracy and I know how adult content laws work.

Now for those reasons:

The first is that it classifies the title as X-rated or XXX-Rated if penetration or any other kind of sex acts are shown. A game like Honey Select or even Affection Of Succubus (with it's own masturbation key) is rated 18+ XXX in Japan for these reasons.

The second is that if a game is classified this way, it is NEVER coming to consoles. The ESRB is getting even stricter now than it has been in the past, and to date, no AO (Adults Only) game has been released in the west.

The third is that this game is available on the Playstation and Xbox consoles. While adult mods can exist, the publisher cannot by law create that kind of content. If that were the case, Bometown and it's sequel Bonecraft would have been on consoles years ago.

Due to these reasons, anyone asking for the developers to create these things is asking for a pornographic experience, which would be banned from consoles. Something that should have happened to Cyberpunk anyway, considering the lawsuit. It is not Cyberpunk 2077 XXX. You will have to mod that in yourselves. Blame the censorship in the west, Japan gets by with this shit all the time. You could be banging half-robot tentacle monster slug people if Japan had a say in it.
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wayke: The Trailer videos I went back over and the 100+ hours I have the significant portions of those trailers I've seen that content in game.
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zatom.gozu: are you getting paid or do you hope for a free game or something?
in this topic was a video posted that shows a lot of cut content but you shill for no reason like low effort troll

people like you are the reason why cyberpunk is such a mediocre game
How is a game not developed by me, then mediocre because of me, your reasoning so sound you should be given an award, I only wish to see the market share not drop to the point of there being no further patching for the game because destructive morons want to go around making claims about something they can't and have not played there are so many, on top of taking things out of context.
Post edited December 26, 2020 by wayke
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zatom.gozu: are you getting paid or do you hope for a free game or something?
in this topic was a video posted that shows a lot of cut content but you shill for no reason like low effort troll

people like you are the reason why cyberpunk is such a mediocre game
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wayke: How is a game not developed by me, then mediocre because of me, your reasoning so sound you should be given an award, I only wish to see the market share not drop to the point of there being no further patching for the game because destructive morons want to go around making claims about something they can't and have not played there are so many, on top of taking things out of context.
so if your caught up trolling you start insulting?

edit or do you mean yourself with a destructive moron who goes around making claims about something... (what do you even mean with "they cant"? what can you not?) and have not played..?
you didnt even play cyberpunk and troll that hard? why the dedication?

and if you dont know how someone else besides the developers can be partially responsible for the outcome of a game you still need to learn a lot about the world
Post edited December 26, 2020 by zatom.gozu
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scrubking: They lied big time.
It's depressing to read that board again, but it's even more depressing how some people are taking the "I choose to remain blind and let companies get away with what they actually let us believe while demonizing other gamers who speak the truth"-pill.
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zatom.gozu: are you getting paid or do you hope for a free game or something?
in this topic was a video posted that shows a lot of cut content but you shill for no reason like low effort troll

people like you are the reason why cyberpunk is such a mediocre game
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wayke: How is a game not developed by me, then mediocre because of me, your reasoning so sound you should be given an award, I only wish to see the market share not drop to the point of there being no further patching for the game because destructive morons want to go around making claims about something they can't and have not played there are so many, on top of taking things out of context.
Fun fact. People who just say they didn't like the game / get their money back / etc respect this company more than you do. Because you are trying to share responsibility with this company, as with stupid children who need care and supervision.
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midrand: I'm not quite sure where you are coming from, but majority of the players I have seen commenting, myself included, never mentioned asking for porn or wanting porn. There is more than enough porn out there on the internet. What we are complaining about is the cognitive dissonance between the setting (strip bar, prostitute, romance scene, naked character in the inventory menu including detailed genitals) and the visuals of heavily censored / clothed actors IN THOSE SETTINGS. This game aims to simulate a mature dystopian setting, where anything goes really. Yet the "adult" themes in this setting are so far removed from a typical adult scene you would see in a strip bar or red light district in real life today that it becomes a joke. This is what the complaint is about - if you are bringing those themes into your proclaimed adult game, then bring them in properly (and as advertised by CDPR).

Nobody forced CDPR to boast their genital choice diversity or to include the strip bars / prostitutes into their game. They could have avoided both by simply not having it in game - and then there would be no need to have nudity at all. Either do something properly or don't do it - that's the heart of the matter.
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thefallenalchemist: How is that not porn then, mate? You want to see nudity, which is described as porn or X-rated content in most entertainment media. People walking around, naked, performing sexual gyrations or anything similar is going to roll into X-rated content. That's literally what pornographic material was. Playboy was an X-rated magazine, Hustler was an XXX-rated magazine. You're literally asking for X-rated content in a game that was headed to consoles. I play and have started writing professional reviews of adult games. I know what constitutes pornography. And I also know what will never be allowed on a console. That's full on graphic displays of nudity and sex all over the damn place, which is what you want.

This isn't about even pornography as an issue. This is the fact that there has never been an AO Game in the history of modern gaming for consoles. I can name off dozens of games that came close, but what you are asking for is straight up pornography and console restrictions set forth by the ESRB would not allow it. Same reason why hot selling steam games like Koikatsu Party when it first dropped are not making their way onto consoles. The best you can hope for are nudity mods, which will soon come. Fans will make it an X-rated game or an XXX-Rated game, but I don't think CDPR had Lula in mind when they were designing the sexual aspects of it.
Clearly you do not understand the difference between nudity, erotica and pornography despite claiming the opposite.

Pornography = printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.

Nudity / Erotica = naked people and sexual innuendos, non-explicit sexual activity

Naked strippers in the bar do not pornography make.

Summertime saga, Bonetown etc are pornographic games. Nothing to do with Cyberpunk, Witcher, GTA V and other numerous titles that handle nudity and sexual themes in a socially acceptable manner.

Witcher 3 had plenty of tasteful depiction of nudity and sex that were within accepted parameters. This game for some reason is MUCH MORE CENSORED vs Witcher 3. The setting of Witcher 3 is much lighter and less dystopian, yet it is closer to reality than Cyberpunk. That's all the complaints are about - in addition to promises vs reality disconnect.

If you think that naked tits or hanging d*ck on its own constitutes pornography, then I cannot help you other than to suggest reading the definitions.
Post edited December 26, 2020 by midrand
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leatherbound: ~ Cyberpunk 2077 isn't what CDPR said it was.
I bought it going by the description here - https://www.gog.com/game/cyberpunk_2077

I have not been following any early development hopes / hype / youtube / subjective interpretations
And had a good idea there would be bugs initially which will get ironed out pretty soon, par for the course with PC games ..

.. And having a blast. Game is smooth, no game stoppers so far, very enjoyable.

I don't think there are any "lies" in the text description for us PC users.
Post edited December 26, 2020 by alt3rn1ty
Yes, breasts and a hanging dick are considered pornography. Look, we live in an age where bikini DLC content is censored in Japanese games and character costumes are even censored. What in the heck makes you think that hanging dick and exposed breasts will make it? Start doing your research.
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wayke: How is a game not developed by me, then mediocre because of me, your reasoning so sound you should be given an award, I only wish to see the market share not drop to the point of there being no further patching for the game because destructive morons want to go around making claims about something they can't and have not played there are so many, on top of taking things out of context.
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fedstim: Fun fact. People who just say they didn't like the game / get their money back / etc respect this company more than you do. Because you are trying to share responsibility with this company, as with stupid children who need care and supervision.
The bigger picture you're not aware of then.
Also, let us add some context. Gal Gun Returns just got cancelled for Xbox because of the content. It will still be on PS. So if a game where you shoot anime waifus with a love gun gets banned for the lewd content, then how in the bloody heck do you think dicks flopping around and breasts bouncing up and down is gonna work in an RPG? Good lord, sir. Use your imagination. They censor these games pretty hard in the west, as soon as I found out Cyberpunk was not going to be the first AO game, I expected all the censorship. And I expect more.

But that's fine, as I have lewd and adult content as it is. Not everything has to stimulate me. As it stands, the game is visually stimulating enough with no need for some kind of sexual stimulation. People running around nude will not make the game better, it'll get it banned. The thing is sold in Walmart for crying out loud.

The context for why that is important is quite simple. Walmart still sells edited music and they have also edited the covers of films. Deathgasm came out a while back, and in order for the film to be sold in Walmart, the name of the film and cover had to be changed to "Heavy Metal Apocalypse." I know, because I have that version of the film. The movie itself remains unchanged.

Mark my words, if they wanted to sell this game at Walmart with all the nudity that you're talking about, it would not happen. And trust me, CDPR wanted that Walmart money because there were OH SO MANY loose copies of the game while I was working freight. That's unheard of. I've sorted loose freight for years and I have never seen so many damn copies of one game pouring in. It is worth mentioning that all of those were pulled off the shelves, probably went to the bargain bin. But make no mistake, they wanted that Walmart money, so they censored the game.
Post edited December 27, 2020 by thefallenalchemist