Your telling me. Can you believe all of these FING IDIOTS? The only company that gives DRM FREE games, Literally no third party thing optional, and they are going to drive it into the ground. It wouldn't suprise me if these morons Would actually *VOTE* for in game advertisement commercials. CDProject may have had a rough start due to their investors probably wanting the game sold for CHRISTMAS instead of a more bug free version, but they didn't run away, abandon us or anything. Where are these people coming from? Steam toxic community? or is Micro$osft or Tencent paying these people to show their ass to drive GoG into the ground so they can buy them out? It sure seems like this. There wasn't this much BS when the other games failed.

IF you guys just wait a bit, CDproject Red will be the next Hello Games and create a Massive world game. Otherwise you might as well, give up all your money to Adveterisement Commercial games, that let you have to buy the game, then pay to skip commercials, and pay for everything you can do in the game, New outfit, real money, Want to travel to the new area, real money. Etc.

I wasn't denied. Got my refund today. Just wanted you to know.

The OP might have overstated his point but we actually give less of a damn what you think since you already got your refund... yet here you still are.

What's keeping you?

I'm having fun in the game but there are a lot of bugs. I won't be getting a refund but I understand if people choose to do so.

The game is not what was advertised. Bad to broken gameplay mechanics. Broken exploits to become extremely OP. Barely any choices in the game actually matter. On top of that the game is very buggy to straight up unplayable on some rigs and platforms.

Licking the CDPR boot is one thing OP, but deepthroating it is another matter entirely.

A wise person wouldn't pre order a game, nor would they buy into the hype peddled by marketing departments whose only job is to sell you something no matter what state it's in.

A wise person would wait for reviews before investing their hard earned cash into something.

To all those people crying about the state of this game I suggest you wise up or you are in for a life filled with disapointment.


... just saying .

I understand you being all smug and sneering upon those who eagerly paid upfront for this game, but feeling the need to life lecture those whose only crime was to get excited for a game from a ‘trusted’ developer who promised the Earth, well, perhaps isn’t exactly the most reasonable way to go about discourse on this.

Even so the reviewers are also paid to shill now the levels that those bigger Companies / Corporations go to securing sales is disgusting and yes I hope they all shed their mortal coil.

This isn't about feelings it's about facts.

This world doesn't owe you a damn thing, this is a hard lesson to learn but the sooner you do the happier you'll be.


It depends on where you go for your reviews really, the mainstream games media is corrupt as all hell but there are plenty of reviewers on places like youtube that are more trustworthy.

I’d say when people pay £50 for a product on the expectation of what the developer themselves promised to deliver, they are indeed ‘owed some damned thing’.

No that's just what you want, but we don't always get what we want.

That's why it pays to be a bit cautious before throwing your £50 at someone, conmen prey on people's trust so it pays not to be too trusting.

No, paying money for a product as advertised and expecting said product is not ‘what I want’, it’s the defining principle of the trade descriptions act.

Companies always have and always will shaft customers pre-order, sure - but you laying blame at customers rather than the company’s door says more about you than it does the shafted punters.

Well you do have to be a bit discerning, all I can say is that there are youtubers whose opinions roughly align with mine and I generally trust what they have to say and that I haven't been let down yet.

I mean it's not as if they were all singing CP2077's praises, there are plenty of youtubers who called CDPR out over the state of the game, so they can't all be shills.
I'm not blaming anyone I'm just saying it pays to be smart with your money it's up to you if you choose to or not.

Seems to me that you are just trying to defend your bad decisions , I guess when things go wrong it's always someone elses fault though.

Where’s the ‘bad decision’ here? Pre-ordering a game from a publisher of previously good standing, based on directly advertised and promised features?

By your logic, no-one would ever invest in property developments, finance start-up companies, purchase houses from perspective plots or underwrite certain business loans - all types of transaction based on assurances and promises from the sellers and vendors. What was that you were saying about ‘being naive on how the world works’?

It would be great if we could live completely free of financial risk in life in our bedrooms, with all food safely sent down through the basement hatch, but it isn’t so - and taking financial risk does not absolve a fraudulent company of responsibility to deliver.

If CDPR were some random, indie, fly-by-night developer then yes, you could argue ‘bad decision’. But that STILL wouldn’t change the entitlement to a refund for an unsatisfactory product - the topic of this thread.