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zenstrata: Don't bother with Ray Tracing - it's still in the 'gimmick' phase and makes practically zero noticable difference in image quality.

I run the game just fine on my machine at 4k native with everything maxed, but my machine is a bit overpowered. I am using a 5950x, 64gb of ram, and a 3090.
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JoaoPauloZA: Actually man, RT makes a huge difference in this game. It performs reasonably well, until you hit a huge crowd. Even the 3090 dips to the high 40s

It's definitely not a gimmick anymore. And you definitely aren't running the game perfectly....no one is. Take a run....not a walk down Jig Jig street, behind the diner, or Corpo plaza. The game tanks. The in-game benchmark is useless and inaccurate compared to real game loads. It's just something about those areas with or without RT

I play on a 3080, and I can get up to 120 fps max settings, but in those areas, it dips down to as low as 38fps, then back to 90 very very rapidly. The only way I get a consistently smooth experience is to fps limit to 50 with v and g sync.
Yep, even a 5800X3D or 12900KS with a 3090ti won't get close to a locked 4K 60FPS with RT turned on. We'll have to wait and see what the RTX 4080/4090 cards later this year can do.
With new cpus and gpus coming by the end of the year, everything could change. If one can wait a few months, it would a good idea to save some more for a new generation of cpus and gpus.

And current rumors are placing radeon 7700 in performance range of nvidia 3090 ... It would be interesing to see what the flagships could do.
Post edited September 07, 2022 by cielaqu
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cielaqu: With new cpus and gpus coming by the end of the year, everything could change. If one can wait a few months, it would a good idea to save some more for a new generation of cpus and gpus.

And current rumors are placing radeon 7700 in performance range of nvidia 3090 ... It would be interesing to see what the flagships could do.
I'm all for new hardware, but not for this game. Not worth the investment.
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JoaoPauloZA: I'm all for new hardware, but not for this game. Not worth the investment.
It's always about the hardware. CPU limits calculations (AI complexity, crowd density, path calculations etc.), GPU limits visuals. And developers have to balance everything to sell theirs product (... PS4 with the power of a smartphone ...).

CP77 is not what I have anticipated (I hoped for more Neuroshima like setting), but I have really enjoyed Night City once I have delved into the dark alleys of the metropolis.
Depends on if you want RT like others have said.

I have an RTX 3070 and a 5800X,
with RT Ultra, local RT shadows OFF and most other things set to high or ultra
I can play @ 1440p with DLSS set to "balanced" and get a smooth experience in most areas.

Tho in some intense scenarios (like the parade mission), I have to drop to 1080p with DLSS set to "quality".

4K isn't viable even with DLSS set to "performance", I'll only achieve 30-40 fps.
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JoaoPauloZA: I'm all for new hardware, but not for this game. Not worth the investment.
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cielaqu: It's always about the hardware. CPU limits calculations (AI complexity, crowd density, path calculations etc.), GPU limits visuals. And developers have to balance everything to sell theirs product (... PS4 with the power of a smartphone ...).

CP77 is not what I have anticipated (I hoped for more Neuroshima like setting), but I have really enjoyed Night City once I have delved into the dark alleys of the metropolis.
Yeah, it's always about the hardware...this is true. I'm just saying that I would not buy new hardware specifically for this game is all. In due time hardware will far surpass the needs of this game. I upgraded almost 2 years ago, I certainly don't intend to do so for some time. I went with the 3080, an i9 10900kf, 32GB of DDR4 3200 xmp up to 3600mhz, and a 2TB NVME PCIE gen 3x4 all liquid cooled. Cyberpunk came out 2 years ago.....so, I wouldn't in good conscience upgrade for it.

Another issue that needs addressing to some extent is CDPRs spec sheet for system requirements. They list all the recommended specs for each resolution....yet conveniently leave out any fps info for resolutions. Such as they say you need a 3080 for 4K. What at 4k 30 with dips? I play on DLSS balanced max everything else @ 1440p. I can get well above 60 in most areas even with Psycho settings, but then there are those problem areas with crowds: Cherry Blossom Market, outside Vs apt, behind the diner, corpo plaz. etc. So, I have to limit to that sweet 50 number to get smooth gameplay. I'm fine with those fps with RT. I certainly wouldn't try the 3080 on 4k max anything. So, I think they need to reevaluate their spec sheet.

Nice game, good game, getting better, but those really vague specs and performance expectations though.
Post edited September 10, 2022 by JoaoPauloZA
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AZaph_gog: Depends on if you want RT like others have said.

I have an RTX 3070 and a 5800X,
with RT Ultra, local RT shadows OFF and most other things set to high or ultra
I can play @ 1440p with DLSS set to "balanced" and get a smooth experience in most areas.

Tho in some intense scenarios (like the parade mission), I have to drop to 1080p with DLSS set to "quality".

4K isn't viable even with DLSS set to "performance", I'll only achieve 30-40 fps.
People say that local RT shadows is the real performance killer. I'd love to turn this off to test. Do you notice any visual downgrade much?
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AZaph_gog: Depends on if you want RT like others have said.

I have an RTX 3070 and a 5800X,
with RT Ultra, local RT shadows OFF and most other things set to high or ultra
I can play @ 1440p with DLSS set to "balanced" and get a smooth experience in most areas.

Tho in some intense scenarios (like the parade mission), I have to drop to 1080p with DLSS set to "quality".

4K isn't viable even with DLSS set to "performance", I'll only achieve 30-40 fps.
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JoaoPauloZA: People say that local RT shadows is the real performance killer. I'd love to turn this off to test. Do you notice any visual downgrade much?
I don't really notice it much, since this is a fast paced game. You'd probably see a difference on screenshots, but in-game I don't really care.
I now have an RTX 4070 Ti, and it can run 4K/60 FPS with DLSS set to "performance". Certainly looks much better than 1440p with "balanced" on my 4K monitor.
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Oldgamer85: Greetings, I've been thinking about building a new gaming rig this year and want to know what to get so i can play this game at 4K\60FPS with everything maxed out.

One of the reasons I think it's a good time to get this ball rolling is due to GPU prices returning back to what they should be.

Anyhow I've been eyeballing a 3070 Ti for my GPU and a Ryzen based CPU setup.

Would be nice to see some recommendations!

TIA!
I looked into this question because I actually have a 4K display myself, and the fact is if you want *everything* maxed out in Cyberpunk 2077 at 4K resolution, get ready to pay a lot of money for a computer. And I think you can't
even get a consistent 60 FPS doing that even if you do pay through the nose.

With the caveat that when we say everything maxed out, that means you are using the maximum amount of ray tracing (I think the setting here is called "psycho" or something.. not ultra?)

Anyway, I saw some benchmarks that indicated the highest minimum frame rates you could get with even an RTX 4090 was like ~30 FPS. I don't recall what DLSS setting was used, but I would bet they probably wouldn't use any more than "quality" for this measurement.

I've heard a lot of people argue the game actually looks worse at 4K with DLSS on performance or ultra-performance and ray tracing activated than it does without any DLSS or ray tracing turned on. That is to say, too much DLSS makes a bigger negative impact on visuals than whatever benefits you get from ray tracing.

The CPU doesn't really matter much as long as it's not too old. What matters is your GPU... and it would be hard to overspend on the GPU if you are really committed to playing at 4K with max settings (including ray tracing) at 60 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077.

On the other hand, if you want "ultra" settings at 4K without ray tracing... that's much more easily achievable in an affordable way.
Post edited February 01, 2023 by temps