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tx3000: The person I had make the video is wandering around aimlessly not knowing wtf to do and is never able to get out of the room. and then quits the game because of utter lack of any actual information which is needed in order to at least guess what to do.
Oh, is he a journalist?
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That's not the OP's fault. The new generation got used to the hand holding of the newer games which made their minds lazy. They can't think, they can't read and they have absolutely no idea of trial and error. We played the originals back in 1999 with our limited english. Now the EE's tell almost everything about the game yet players are still paralyzed, confused. They wait someone to hold their hands, to tell them what to do, NPC's with !! marks on their heads so they can click them.

I believe a year ago I played a game where you didn't even had to move yourself. You just click "Do the next quest" and your character goes there and does it. You don't even have to read a single thing except click things with !! on them until you level up. I reached very high levels without reading a single thing and doing nothing but click with left mouse button. This game had over 1 million player at that time.

Now, we can't actually expect a child of that generation enjoy the beauty of Baldur's Gate in an instant. That will take time and patience. However, the new generation also doesn't have that.

To Mr Tx3000: If you took offense in my writing, you shouldn't even attempt to play those games. They will eat you alive. However, if my writing made you think and question yourself instead of the game, and if you are REALLY determined to enjoy those priceless classics, let me know. I'll give you all the help I can.
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Engerek01: That's not the OP's fault. The new generation got used to the hand holding of the newer games which made their minds lazy. They can't think, they can't read and they have absolutely no idea of trial and error. We played the originals back in 1999 with our limited english. Now the EE's tell almost everything about the game yet players are still paralyzed, confused. They wait someone to hold their hands, to tell them what to do, NPC's with !! marks on their heads so they can click them.
I've seen some of OP's videos. He's in his late 30s to mid 40s. I can understand why you think he's 10, though...
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tx3000: Show some gratitude for what exactly?
For getting a gold star. I didn't even get a participant ribbon.
Post edited September 28, 2019 by jsidhu762
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southern: Lol just select Xan bro

JUST CLICK ON HIM LOL
Thank you for a real answer.

Not sure why the devs couldn't make things that simple.
Post edited September 28, 2019 by tx3000
Do you get this angry about all the games you play?
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sonic_titan_rides: Do you get this angry about all the games you play?
I watched the youtube video that was linked in an earlier post in this thread. It's really, really funny. Can you imagine, that video has zero likes?

That poor man was so lost and angry.... playing Baldur's Gate....

To think that the rest of us were somehow, some way, able to figure it out.... we must be really, really smart!

That poor, lost, angry man....
Post edited October 01, 2019 by CFM
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tx3000: There is no possible way a player who has never played BG II EE to leave the first room. Why because there isn't a single shred of information on anything that helps a player even be able to start GUESSING what to do.

How retarded are people in this thread going to keep being
Yeah, the people in this thread are being retarded. That's right, they are being retarded.

-wink-
Post edited October 01, 2019 by CFM
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CFM: To think that the rest of us were somehow, some way, able to figure it out.... we must be really, really smart!
When a person is born, he or she can do a bunch of things without being taught; eating, sleeping, breathing...and playing Baldur's Gate. OP was born without this knowledge. It sound like a disability.
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CFM: To think that the rest of us were somehow, some way, able to figure it out.... we must be really, really smart!
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jsidhu762: When a person is born, he or she can do a bunch of things without being taught; eating, sleeping, breathing...and playing Baldur's Gate. OP was born without this knowledge. It sound like a disability.
That one got an audible chuckle out of me.
I don't know whether I should laugh at the OP or shake my head in disbelief.

You know, I was like the OP before - trying to figure out an Infinity Engine game but I got the hang of things eventually without raging online on why these games are seemingly "impossible."

Sometimes, learning things on your own instead of being spoon fed like a whiny baby has its benefits in the long run.
Poe's law has me unsure if this is a prank or not (since Gog advertises Balder's Gate as "arguably the best RPG of all time").

Okay, I'll play, even though this is an obvious trawl, with the (latterly expressed) OP's intent to display a contrary opinion. Or, to put it in Monty Python speak:
Yes, we're all different.
I'm not.
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Bookwyrm627: Combat 101
Step 1: Look for something with a red circle around it. The red circle means the thing doesn't like you.
Step 2: Click on your character. If you've managed to move around, then you should be able to figure out how to click your character.
Step 3: Click on the thing with the red circle.

You just told your character to attack the enemy. Good job! I've attached a gold star for you!
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tx3000: […] There is no way a player would ever know that because none of that is even mentioned in the game at the time it should be […]
Sophistry. You don't want a game, you want a movie to watch.
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tx3000: […] 2 Ok i looked through the manuals and they're total shit and about as useless as telling someone who doesn't know Greek, to learn it on their own without any help from anyone or getting help from anywhere and if they don't it's their fault.
[…] 1 Also don't try saying being rude won't get you help because no one is helping anyway and have yet to help. All people have done is pass the buck then says stop complaining.

People like you guys who do that should be banned from any forum because all you are there for is to instigate problems and provoke people, then try to play victim.
[1] Total narcissism. (Let's hope you are faking it, but I doubt it.) Every reply has tried to give specific instructions, that are easy to follow, and that —— if one is truly struggling but happy to attempt to improve —— are straightforward.

Since you are still complaining, you obviously had an agenda. Congratulations! You ARE different!

[2] I highly recommend it, if you are intelligent. (Peter Jones does have two excellent primers, one for Latin and one for Classical Greek, both of which I highly recommend.)

Unfortunately, curiosity is highly correlated with intelligence, and since you are (deliberately or otherwise) lacking in the ability to experiment with the very responsive user interface, I can't say you are intelligent enough to enjoy the game. If you struggle with making such a simple determination as to how to equip your character or how to survive combat, after the tutorial demonstrates this, then you will fail to grasp the more advanced aspects of the game.
You will get nowhere with your attitude in this game. It demands the player extend themselves out of the comfort zone, to explore and remember.

You are demonstrating wilfull ignorance and a severe shade of learned helplessness.

If you wish to persevere, learning to play this game is an excellent pathway to fix your self-destructive impulses, though I doubt you would care to place yourself in such a vulnerable position, even in the privacy of your own home. Your loss.
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Bookwyrm627: […] The details you are demanding indicate that you aren't capable of the independent thought that will be required throughout these games. Be thankful that you found an uncrossable hurdle right at the very start and go play something else. Might I suggest buying a slinky?
Exactly. Not every game is meant for everyone. The OP really should stick to visual novels, since reading is such a chore.
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Engerek01: That's not the OP's fault. The new generation got used to the hand holding of the newer games which made their minds lazy. They can't think, they can't read and they have absolutely no idea of trial and error. […]
To Mr Tx3000: If you took offense in my writing, you shouldn't even attempt to play those games. They will eat you alive. However, if my writing made you think and question yourself instead of the game, and if you are REALLY determined to enjoy those priceless classics, let me know. I'll give you all the help I can.
I reject your patronizing assessment of the millennial gamer.

I second your motion, however. The community of players have all encountered the EXACT situation the OP outlines, but learnt how to adapt and thrive. Hopefully this appeals to the OP enough to snap him out of his mental illness.*

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CFM: To think that the rest of us were somehow, some way, able to figure it out.... we must be really, really smart!
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jsidhu762: When a person is born, he or she can do a bunch of things without being taught; eating, sleeping, breathing...and playing Baldur's Gate. OP was born without this knowledge. It sound like a disability.
Actually suckling is the first thing an infant learns, lest it starve. (It is a complex process that requires swallowing without aspirating the mouthful of milk, but seems to be well within the scope of a newborn.)

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* The OP is stricken with infant narcissism, if your are interested, first identified by Sigmund Freud. The infant expects the world to be exactly as he imagines it to be, and nothing else.

edit: lots of shenanigans with forum software and obsessive perfectionism in expression.
>_<
Post edited October 02, 2019 by scientiae
I dig the recent posts to this thread, which analyze tx3000 personally. This whole thread is just really funny and entertaining on so many levels.

tx3000 can't figure out the tutorial, while my 9yo played through the tutorial by himself earlier this year. The kid's only ever played Minecraft, never any CRPGs. Yet I watched him in silence as he did the tutorial without issues or anger.

tx3000 says "there is no possible way a player who has never played BG II EE to leave the first room". But, at one point, weren't we all once a player who has never played BG? Yet, somehow, we were able to leave the first room... a miracle!

But according to tx3000, it's the devs and indeed the rest of us that are the ones being retarded. That is just too funny.

I hope tx3000 returns to this thread. It's way more entertaining dogging him with a reaction.
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CFM: I dig the recent posts to this thread, which analyze tx3000 personally. This whole thread is just really funny and entertaining on so many levels.

tx3000 can't figure out the tutorial, while my 9yo played through the tutorial by himself earlier this year. The kid's only ever played Minecraft, never any CRPGs. Yet I watched him in silence as he did the tutorial without issues or anger.

tx3000 says "there is no possible way a player who has never played BG II EE to leave the first room". But, at one point, weren't we all once a player who has never played BG? Yet, somehow, we were able to leave the first room... a miracle!

But according to tx3000, it's the devs and indeed the rest of us that are the ones being retarded. That is just too funny.

I hope tx3000 returns to this thread. It's way more entertaining dogging him with a reaction.
Well, to tell the truth, BG2 is a sequel (I know, should've warned about spoilers!).

The tutorial is in BG1, on the first area. The player is supposed to learn the basics before venturing out of Candlekeep.

So the statement "there is no possible way a player who has never played BG II EE to leave the first room" does carry some weight: the player should have played BG1 to learn how to "leave the first room", which is indeed in no way the very first room of the BG saga (which, by the way, starts outdoors, so exiting the first room implies prior entrance of the first room).
I cannot win against Eclipse with a level 1 fighter solo in BG2 Scii Insane.

What were the devs though when they didn't allow level 1 fighter to cast level 11 spells ? (I checked : there is NO WAY to find the level 11 spells in the game, they must have hidden it from true smart players).

This game is screwed, I second the OP.
Post edited October 16, 2019 by francksteel
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francksteel: I cannot win against Eclipse with a level 1 fighter solo in BG2 Scii Insane.

What were the devs though when they didn't allow level 1 fighter to cast level 11 spells ? (I checked : there is NO WAY to find the level 11 spells in the game, they must have hidden it from true smart players).

This game is screwed, I second the OP.
Fighter casting Level 11 spells...

Level...11...spells.

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