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Remove No Man's Sky, unless the DRM is removed
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Time4Tea According to this forum thread (https://www.gog.com/forum/general/no_mans_sky_isnt_fully_drmfree), No Man's Sky has received updates that have introduced DRM to the game. This is a clear violation of GOG's anti-DRM policy. I insist the game be removed from the GOG store, unless the devs remove the DRM. If not, at the very least it should be rolled back to the last version that didn't contain the DRM. People, this is your chance to make a stand for 'no DRM' and say no to the continual creeping erosion of GOG's core values. Anti-DRM is the only reason that GOG exists in the first place and the only thing that sets it apart from Steam.
Zakanalix I agree No man's sky should be removed and GOG shame on you guys DRM free games was the most important reason to buy games from you. Practice what you preach and respect customers. howgh
LeonDWH
Caution: Not DRM-free!
November 20, 2020
Hello Games has introduced a partial DRM into the singleplayer-campaign with a recent update. The quicksilver-shop with the associated quests leading to the void ship will only work, if you have registered the game online. That is DRM, on part of the single player game. Plain and simple. **This was posted by Lifthrasil and appears to still remain an issue unless Hello Games has added more DRM in updates for this game since.. As the OP of this message states. This IS a violation of GOG's promise to all of us that they DO NOT support DRM in games. This should be held at the highest standards especially with "Singleplayer" games! GOG's failure to take steps to remove this registration DRM from ANY game they offer on the site is a breach of promise by GOG Admin. Up to this point I have been buying games I already own on DRM Clients to move away from those clients when the games in question have come available on GOG. I am VERY disappointed in GOG's Breach of Contract with their user aggreement by failing to remove DRM in ALL FORMS from the games they sell here like this case. GOG Admin.... Call to point of order! REMOVE ALL DRM IN ALL FORMS FROM ALL GAMES YOU OFFER OR REMOVE THOSE GAMES TO COMPLY WITH YOUR PROMISE AND TENET OF "NO DRM! EVER!" OR RISK CONTINUED CHARGES OF BREACH OF CONTRACT AND OF BEING CALLED "LIARS"!
OmniNegro I abandoned another game platform that I will not name to come over to GoG because I object to DRM. If GoG is going to shovel DRM on my system, then I will leave here too. Good day everyone. Stay healthy and safe.
Time4Tea Yes, DRM on GOG.com cannot be accepted. The game needs to fixed or removed. No compromise. 99% is not 100%
NoExceptions @fridgeband you talk about gog like a friend, but it's not. It's a profit-oriented company which found in the highly competitive market of online game distribution a market niche, namely DRM-free games. It's their basic statement, the 'seller' for this platform, otherwise we could also just get these games just from Steam. If they now allow publishers to bypass this guarantee by allowing undocumented connections to AWS servers, content reduction/penalty on non-online gameplay and so on, than they deserve harsh critique. Because its against the very guarantee that was given to us, which is posted on any page at a good visible place.
Zoltys DRM free is THE reason I come to GoG.
Time4Tea @KRAFT: There have been cases in the past where games have been removed from sale on the store, but have still remained in the library of those who have already bought it. There is a precedent for games being removed from the GOG store. Imo, the situation is very simple: the game includes DRM, therefore it is violating GOG's 100% DRM-free policy, therefore it needs to be removed.
PrzemekZych i think this should be done, money go back to buyers and all thing solved properly
AgentBJ09 @KRAFT: It's still something that goes against what GOG is as a platform and store, so they should take the store page down with a related notice as to why.
Those who already bought it can keep their records, as some of us who bought Fallout Classic already do. They just can't buy new copies until a solution to the server dependency is found.
(Makes me hope IO do this for HITMAN 2016/18 and HITMAN III as well. Those deserve DRM-free versions)
KRAFTWERK2K1 Removing the game from the GOG Servers would only punish those who already bought the game and could not get their updates anymore or download the offline-installer files -_-
Would be nice if you'd think a thought to the very end, including all the consequences. Yes, HelloGames needs to be held responsible for this stupid external Server crap.
BUT.... and that#s a big But.... as long as these things like the quicksilver crafting stuff, is not game essential or game breaking but purely cosmetic (and that's what these quicksilver trading things are) then it doesn't even matter if you have it or not. Personally i couldn't care less for that visual customisations of ship engine fire color or things like that.
The game itself still works without having to sign up for anything elsewhere. HelloGames should rather remove that from the main game and put additional addon patch thingy on their website for people who care enough about such things like different visuals.
That's just my two cents.
Time4Tea @DoomSooth: I disagree. The 'quality' of a game is completely irrelevant. GOG markets itself as a '100% DRM-free' store and has built itself over many years based on that promise. If they want to retain any credibility that they are truly DRM-free, then they need to give Hello Games a firm ultimatum and, if they do not remove the DRM, the game needs to be kicked. There can be no compromises with DRM. 99% is not 100%.
DoomSooth The game is too good to be removed. Just fix it so that offline players can gain quicksilver and use the shop without having to edit their saves.
eyerobot I would like to see the game changed. But not removed. I do enjoy the multiplayer part of the game, So I'm not overly concerned about it. My biggest problem is waiting for the price to drop to twenty dollars, The same as I paid for it on steam. So that I can phase out one more game from steam.
GrzechuGrek @Time4Tea
But of course! And this would be most effective. Sometime synergy of good solutions is the best solution.
Time4Tea @GrzechuGrek well, we can do both, can't we?
GrzechuGrek @ Time4Tea
DoomSooth is mostly right! While putting many messages here on wishlist is right too, but this can not be enough.
It is often necessary to contact the developers/publishers directly.
And of course, a direct communication from one random user to the developer would be a nothing. However a TON of direct communication from MANY [angred] users/customers, may be a far more powerful, than even a direct official communication from GOG/Anyone.
And often developers/publishers does just ignore GOG communications, so there is good idea to sometime help GOG for deal things for us.
This also applies to many games that are not on GOG but which we want them to be here. There is most depends on the developers and publishers.
ReynardFox Remove the game or remove the DRM you god damn cowards.
Time4Tea In short, I think community action via the wishlist (or, perhaps later, e-mails backed up by the wishlist request) will send a more effective message.
Time4Tea @DoomSooth: It's not just about my time. Two points: 1. as I mentioned, a direct communication from GOG to the developer would be more powerful than from one random user. 2. There is a matter of principle. It is GOG's store and they should be in the loop on this. As a DRM-free store, GOG should be aware of possible infringements of their policy and should be more pro-active in enforcing it. So, there is also a message to be sent to GOG, by the users who care about the core value of DRM-free. The best way of sending that message, imo, is through the wishlist, where other members of the community can also make their voice heard. It is what the wishlist is for, after all.
DoomSooth If you have the time to make five posts about it in the messageboard, this wishlist entry, and three comments responding to it then you have time to send one message to Hello Games, no?
Time4Tea @DoomSooth: the request is: "Remove No Man's Sky, Unless the DRM is removed." I would prefer to see the DRM removed and the game stay on GOG; however, if the DRM is not removed, then the game would need to be pulled from the store, because it would be in violation of GOG's policy. Sorry, but it seems we have a fundamental disagreement. GOG is running an online store and I see it as their responsibility to ensure developers are adhering to their stated policies. A request to a developer would be far more persuasive coming from GOG than from me. Plus, I am a busy person and I don't have time to do their job for them. If you do, great.
DoomSooth Why sit around waiting for GOG to take care of it when we're free to contact Hello Games directly? I already have. Hello Games says they don't have the time to respond to everything but they claim to read everything. It's worth a try and the worst they can say is no. The quicksilver changes would take less time to implement than compiling them into the game or even having the game removed. Do you really want the game to be removed? I don't.
Time4Tea @DoomSooth: tbh, I expect GOG to be communicating with game developers to ensure standards are being met on their store. Why should we be doing their work for them?
DoomSooth Have you guys tried nicely asking Hello Games about it before asking for votes?
GladChimer1 "DRM-Free" still means DRM-free right?
Remove No Man's Sky if that's true.
If it isn't, then keep it and I'll remove myself instead.
Time4Tea @M4XXST3IN: it's not about needing Galaxy to play online, it's more about there being single-player content that can only be accessed after completing certain requirements in MP. It can be argued that is a form of DRM, because that SP content is being gated behind an online requirement.
gagcom They don't care. They support other scam & spy businesses. Because they are one themselves. Just look at delays with Cyberpunk 2077. Cutting content and sell it as DLC, game will have MTX. But they leave greed to others.
M4XXST3IN It might not even be GOG, if you guys are talking about needing GOG to play online in no mans sky, its not the only game on GOG that does this
fridgeband I agree that DRM is really bad, but I think that the way that the people in the thread speak about gog is extremely impolite. They speak of gog as if they're criminals or something, which I strongly disagree with. The way the people in that thread are conducting themselves is shameful and not respectful at all. I feel like if they were polite and reasonable and all tried to contact gog in a kind and calm way, that gog would probably listen to them, because that stuff does in fact seem like really bad DRM type stuff. I don't agree at all with the way that the angry people are handling the situation. DRM is really bad, but cmon, this is gog we are talking about. The heros of the video game world. Treating gog with such anger and lack of understanding is like yelling at the fireman while they are saving us from the building. Can we at least ask gog in a nice way? It's just too harsh for my tastes. It makes no sense why there is such a ferocious intensity needed, just be kind, use words.
racofer The same thing almost happened a few months ago with Deus Ex Manking Divided. The staff only took action after a lot of shouting and news spreading on the internet about "the first ever cracked GOG game". This should not have happened to begin with.
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