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The first time I played the game, I wasn't really clear about what happened. Still, I defended Abigail since I felt that she was the lesser evil. Now that I have completed the game and tried replaying, the situation seems much clearer.

Abigail's Crime
- She sold poison to Ilsa and indirectly caused her death.
- She incited Odo to murder his brother via voodoo. (??? Whether this is true has yet to be proven. It's true that there's a doll inside her hut that resembles Odo but does it really work?)
- She made a deal with Haren that she would be his if he became a hawker and trade with the Scoia'tael. (An obvious lie. Why would she do this? There's no motive.)
- Supposedly summoned the beast. (Which was proven to be caused by the crimes committed by the villagers.)

Haren's Crime
He trades with the Scoia'tael and Salamandra.
Evidence:
- He admits it himself that he trades with the Scoia'tael.
- Geralt finds his goods inside the Salamandra hideout.

Mikul's Crime
Mikul raped Ilsa, probably along with the Salamandra thugs.
Evidence:
- When Geralt and Abigail summoned the beast into Alvin, he said "Plow her well, show her you're a man!". That sounded like something the thugs were telling Mikul.
- Abigail tells this to Geralt. Ilsa most likely told her this when she bought the poison from Abigail.

Odo's Crime
Odo murdered his brother.
Evidence:
- Echinopsae which grows in places where terrible crimes were committed grew in his garden.
- "Odo's dog" guards a spot in the garden.
- He asked Salamandra thugs how to kill a soldier.
- His motive is that he wanted his brother's riches and he hated his brother. Although he said that he hates all soldiers except his brother, it's more likely that he hates soldiers because of his brother.

Reverend's Crime
- He gave the children to Salamandra as experimentation material.
- He ignored the crimes of the others.
Witnesses:
Alvin and the other two children are the witnesses.
Post edited June 07, 2012 by Ongoingwhy
Sounds like you've got all the details.

My first time I wasn't as clear about Abigail's involvement. She seemed less innocent in later replays.

One thing I always thought was strange is that Mikul seems very upset that Ilsa died. He could just be pretending to care about her, but I remember him sobbing and talking about loving her.
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bengeddes: Sounds like you've got all the details.

My first time I wasn't as clear about Abigail's involvement. She seemed less innocent in later replays.

One thing I always thought was strange is that Mikul seems very upset that Ilsa died. He could just be pretending to care about her, but I remember him sobbing and talking about loving her.
Rapists can love their victim, you know. It could be that he's crying because he can no longer rape her anymore. Or he's so stupid that he thought that she loved him when he raped her. I am guessing the latter could be more likely.

One thing to take note of is that he apologized to Geralt when Geralt was going into the city and Geralt told him to apologize to Ilsa. It could be that he's apologizing for turning Geralt in but then that's unlikely.
[warning - some spoilers ahead]

Ongoingwhy:
Reverend is also guilty for kicking his daughter Hela out to the street, when she became pregnant and that caused her to become a whore (you probably know who that is if you finished the game). He was also cruel to Alvin while he lived in Reverend's house. Alvin reveals that only to drunk(!) Geralt when they are in trade quarter. He says, that Reverend used to beat him, while drunk.

Abigail is the most complex character in the chapter IMO. Regarding Odo, it's not clear how she used the doll. Odo himself said, that he saw some beast in her window, and got scared. She could have used it just to scare him off, there is no clear evidence that she made him kill his brother (except his words), and there is no clear motive (unless there is some hidden plot behind, like revenge and etc. but we never know). She on the other hand while being rather cynical about the villagers in general, took Alvin in, showing compassion.

If Abigail is left to be lynched (but that's very out of character for Geralt to do IMO) that path reveals that Abigail is a secret follower of Coram Agh Tera cult, which is banned in Temeria. Followers of that cult use cruel bloody rituals and etc. However in general Abigail appears not to be cruel, and is just very pained by her persecution. Other followers of the cult whom Geralt encounters in the game are way more insane and violent. Abigail feels much better about people in Murky Waters, where villagers are more accepting to strangers.

Also, if Abigail is killed by the mob, later in Murky Waters the plot develops differently, and Geralt is actually blamed for having the innocent blood on his hands (if he consults Murky Waters healer who's there instead of Abigail regarding lifting the noonwraith curse). In that case Geralt can't easily remove the curse from the noonwraith without another life (Adam) being lost. So in retrospect it shows that saving Abigail was the right thing to do.
Post edited June 08, 2012 by shmerl
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shmerl: [warning - some spoilers ahead]

Ongoingwhy:
Reverend is also guilty for kicking his daughter Hela out to the street, when she became pregnant and that caused her to become a whore (you probably know who that is if you finished the game). He was also cruel to Alvin while he lived in Reverend's house. Alvin reveals that only to drunk(!) Geralt when they are in trade quarter. He says, that Reverend used to beat him, while drunk.

Abigail is the most complex character in the chapter IMO. Regarding Odo, it's not clear how she used the doll. Odo himself said, that he saw some beast in her window, and got scared. She could have used it just to scare him off, there is no clear evidence that she made him kill his brother (except his words), and there is no clear motive (unless there is some hidden plot behind, like revenge and etc. but we never know). She on the other hand while being rather cynical about the villagers in general, took Alvin in, showing compassion.

If Abigail is left to be lynched (but that's very out of character for Geralt to do IMO) that path reveals that Abigail is a secret follower of Coram Agh Tera cult, which is banned in Temeria. Followers of that cult use cruel bloody rituals and etc. However in general Abigail appears not to be cruel, and is just very pained by her persecution. Other followers of the cult whom Geralt encounters in the game are way more insane and violent. Abigail feels much better about people in Murky Waters, where villagers are more accepting to strangers.

Also, if Abigail is killed by the mob, later in Murky Waters the plot develops differently, and Geralt is actually blamed for having the innocent blood on his hands (if he consults Murky Waters healer who's there instead of Abigail regarding lifting the noonwraith curse). In that case Geralt can't easily remove the curse from the noonwraith without another life (Adam) being lost. So in retrospect it shows that saving Abigail was the right thing to do.
I didn't put in information that you get later simply because you're supposed to make a decision based on what you have currently.

Yes, I know that Carmen/Hela is his daughter.

I don't really think that Abigail is a follower of Coram Agh Ter. Just because she curses Geralt if he leaves her to be lynched, doesn't necessarily mean that she's one. See, I can curse people in the name of the devil... But does that make me a follower of the devil? I think there needs to be more evidence before we can conclude that she's a follower of Coram Agh Ter.

I wouldn't really say that it's the "right" thing to do. In fact if you save Abigail, Geralt admits that she's not the the lesser evil. He stated that witchers neither judge nor punish but solve human problems. (During the murky water quest that you mentioned.)
Good points - yes, that's pretty possible that Abigail isn't a follower and that reference is just accidental. As I said, she doesn't look like one and she isn't some maniac.

Actually Abigail mentions that Reverend threw his pregnant daughter out to the street, but her identity is revealed only later on.

IMO it was a right thing to save Abigail since she wasn't guilty in such crimes to be punished that way. But it's made to be not very obvious. It's a question of whether Geralt need to get involved to defend the innocent. Interestingly, he becomes obligated to do so after being knighted by the Lady of the Lake.
Post edited June 08, 2012 by shmerl
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shmerl: Good points - yes, that's pretty possible that Abigail isn't a follower and that reference is just accidental. As I said, she doesn't look like one and she isn't some maniac.

Actually Abigail mentions that Reverend threw his pregnant daughter out to the street, but her identity is revealed only later on.

IMO it was a right thing to save Abigail since she wasn't guilty in such crimes to be punished that way. But it's made to be not very obvious. It's a question of whether Geralt need to get involved to defend the innocent. Interestingly, he becomes obligated to do so after being knighted by the Lady of the Lake.
I agree but witchers are supposed to be neutral... The attack on Kaer Morhen could very well be caused by the witchers meddling in the business of powerful people. Did the Lady of the Lake charge Geralt with the duty of defending the innocent? My impression of it was that she gave him Aerondight to fulfill his "destiny".
If you follow her words, she's saying something about safeguarding the helpless.

Also, in the books Geralt finds himself rather often in conflict with the codex (i.e. about not meddling in human affairs), and in practice he doesn't only meddle and helps a lot of people, but as you said angers quite a lot of powerful figures along the way :) In the game Geralt has a lengthy discussion on this subject with Zoltan.
Post edited June 08, 2012 by shmerl
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shmerl: If you follow her words, she's saying something about safeguarding the helpless.

Also, in the books Geralt finds himself rather often in conflict with the codex (i.e. about not meddling in human affairs), and in practice he doesn't only meddle and helps a lot of people, but as you said angers quite a lot of powerful figures along the way :) In the game Geralt has a lengthy discussion on this subject with Zoltan.
Ah, you're correct. I went to youtube and found that scene.

If I recalled correctly, didn't the conversation involve whether or not witchers are still relevant? That they're not appreciated even though they kill monsters.
Yes, and in the end, Zoltan notes: witchers will always be needed...
Post edited June 08, 2012 by shmerl
"She is feisty. Say, let's do what we did unto Mikul's girl, Ilsa! What a screamer."
"Ahem."
"You new too? He likely told you to wait like us. Let's have our way with this little chickie."

Who is this "he" that the thug was referring to? Do you think it could be Mikul? It seems likely since he mentioned Mikul in the previous sentence.
Was it the incident in the inn with Shani? Most probably they are talking about Mikul. His reaction to Geralt (poor Ilsa and etc.) when he tells Mikul that he found woman's body in the crypt can be a play, to hide his involvement in the crime. Or may be he already regrets about what happened. The plot itself isn't very clear though. It's possible that Mikul sold Ilsa off to these thugs for some reason.
Post edited June 11, 2012 by shmerl
Yeah, it's the incident in the inn with Shani. I agree, it seems more and more likely that Mikul raped Ilsa. I wish they had clarified this in the game... =/
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shmerl: Was it the incident in the inn with Shani? Most probably they are talking about Mikul. His reaction to Geralt (poor Ilsa and etc.) when he tells Mikul that he found woman's body in the crypt can be a play, to hide his involvement in the crime. Or may be he already regrets about what happened. The plot itself isn't very clear though. It's possible that Mikul sold Ilsa off to these thugs for some reason.
For me Mikul is playing, as you say. He has a power status in this part of Wizima and declaring himself guilty of rape is not very wise for this position of "respect"
There is one confusing part. How do you understand Alvin's words, when he says in the trance (after Abigail gives him her potion):

"Bad children, torturing the witch's puppy again?..." And something about the girl from outside the village screaming?
Post edited June 14, 2012 by shmerl