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Because I am, can't wait to buy the 2 emotes and the season pass, while getting less content than the first battlefront all the way back in 2002
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GabesterOne: Because I am, can't wait to buy the 2 emotes and the season pass, while getting less content than the first battlefront all the way back in 2002
lmao!
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GabesterOne: Because I am, can't wait to buy the 2 emotes and the season pass, while getting less content than the first battlefront all the way back in 2002
Times have changed. BF1 and BF2 were well crafted games. The community wanted BF3 and instead we got a reboot that is going to milk money out of us with DLCs and expansions.... we're just dollar signs now.
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GabesterOne: Because I am, can't wait to buy the 2 emotes and the season pass, while getting less content than the first battlefront all the way back in 2002
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xtharpe: Times have changed. BF1 and BF2 were well crafted games. The community wanted BF3 and instead we got a reboot that is going to milk money out of us with DLCs and expansions.... we're just dollar signs now.
See EA killed the developers years ago after lord of the rings conquest and they took there time to ruin/destroy battlefront franchise as well. At least Battlefront 2 has lots of mods and a good small community to play :)
I'm fairly excited for the game. I can't wait to experience the immersion the new game will offer; as far as entering the epic science fiction battles in a galaxy far far away goes.

I have no reason to feel like I'm being cheated with the new entry into the series. Star Wars games thrived off of being copies of better games; i.e. Battlefield-Battlefront, Galactic Empires-Age of Empires 2, Dark Forces-Doom. Unfortunately now, Disney's hold has given us carbon copies of (what I believe to be) shitty mobile games, as they copy the same formula and play style as Clash of Clans, Bloons Tower Defense, and some others.

I'm not saying the new one will be good because it will go back to copying better games. Actually, after playing the beta, I'd say it will do the opposite. From what I played in the Alpha and the Beta, the feel of the new game is vastly different than the experience I had in Battlefield (and Battlefront), which I think to be a good thing. The best part of the old games was not the gameplay (well it did have good gameplay as it borrowed greatly from Battlefield 1942 and 2142), but more for the ability to be a part of the battles in the Star Wars universe. To play as imperials, rebels, and other factions.

The new game seems to have the same feel for a fan of Star Wars. Which is all that matters at the end of the day. As every review for Battlefronts 1 and 2 will tell you, "The game lacks content, story, etc. But if you are a Star Wars fan, you'll love it." I think it'll receive this same critique, because it does lack content, as much as the old games did. And we still had a blast with those.

Edit: I want to clarify just to make sure it's clear: Galactic Battlegrounds, Battlefront, Dark Forces, KOTOR, and alll of those early Star Wars games were absolutely amazing games that I enjoyed when I was younger. I'm just trying to say, all of those games are copies of better games. Albeit, games I played far less, but games that were not only more well-received by critics, but also sold better.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Scilaser
But at least Battlefront 2 added more content than Battlefront 1 (space battles, heroes to the game) and did improvements in story mode, galactic conquest and more game modes to play. Battlefront 2015 has no space battles, no galactic conquest, no clone wars, less maps, dlc (map packs, and emotes!), no story mode and no stuff in base game from episode 7 at all. It has less content than other battlefront and battlefield games, which is sad.
Plus there is Starwar games that improve of the games they copy from, or innovate the industry- games like Star Wars Jedi Out cast, StarWars Tiefighter, Starwars darkforces, Kotor, and many more add to the gaming industry as a whole.
Battlefront will sell due to the hype, but just like Starwars episode 1, the people who bought in will realize years later what a piece of shit the game is.
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GabesterOne: But at least Battlefront 2 added more content than Battlefront 1 (space battles, heroes to the game) and did improvements in story mode, galactic conquest and more game modes to play. Battlefront 2015 has no space battles, no galactic conquest, no clone wars, less maps, dlc (map packs, and emotes!), no story mode and no stuff in base game from episode 7 at all. It has less content than other battlefront and battlefield games, which is sad.
Plus there is Starwar games that improve of the games they copy from, or innovate the industry- games like Star Wars Jedi Out cast, StarWars Tiefighter, Starwars darkforces, Kotor, and many more add to the gaming industry as a whole.
Battlefront will sell due to the hype, but just like Starwars episode 1, the people who bought in will realize years later what a piece of shit the game is.
I admire one thing in your replies: you have your own sense of care for the Star Wars universe and the license Lucas sold off. You see something that people are hating on, and you're following those people, hating something you've yet to play.

Star Wars has always been a copy of something better in the gaming sense. Even the games you listed copied blatantly from other games. And that's not a bad thing. The games they copied were good. And that's not to say, "Because one is a shooter, and the other is a shooter, then every shooter must just be a clone of another shooter," rather, it's to say that those games quite literally took game play mechanics, stylistic choices and more from games that preceded them.

Battlefront will disappoint you because you've already set yourself up for disappointment. Take off the nostalgia blinders for a moment, look at the product before you and try to see how it might be good. Buy it, play it, if it really is awful and lacks a lot of content? Return it. Origin has a refund policy that's reliable.

P.S. Space battles... man those things are awful now-a-days. I loved 'em back in the day though!
Don't worry, I set all games to standards of previous games and if they remove content from sequels, then no one should support the game because that is a sign of laziness and probable milking through DLC.

Space battles were fun and had great controls with balance ships, but it was not always fun because players are smart to realize just rush to sabotage the cruiser is the best way to win. Fortunately my friends and I set up rules to only stay in are fighters and not go in the enemy cruiser to sabotage the ship. :)
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GabesterOne: Don't worry, I set all games to standards of previous games and if they remove content from sequels, then no one should support the game because that is a sign of laziness and probable milking through DLC.

Space battles were fun and had great controls with balance ships, but it was not always fun because players are smart to realize just rush to sabotage the cruiser is the best way to win. Fortunately my friends and I set up rules to only stay in are fighters and not go in the enemy cruiser to sabotage the ship. :)
That's really nice to hear. Plenty of us had an amazing time playing space battles back in the day. But in all honesty, today it doesn't hold up too well. It's a lazy attempt at copying Battlefield 2142's Titan mode, a gamed mode which holds up well to this day. Again, nothing in Battlefront 1/2 was original, nothing was done better in those games than in other games, other than one thing, and that one thing is what made the games so special: it put us into the Star Wars universe.

Battlefront 2015 is following suit. It will lack a campaign, as its predecessors did. It will lack the intensity of battles in Battlefield (a game those titles took everything from, game modes, class systems, and more). It will not have the most amount of content for its time. But for Star Wars fans, it'll do that one thing right. It will put us in the battles taking place in the universe we all appreciate for one reason or another.

So yeah, I have no doubt critics will hate it. Certain consumers will hate it too. But the same exact thing happened for Battlefronts 1 and 2. And all of a sudden a new generation is coming out (outspokenly, might I add) on countless sites, claiming to have always loved the series. When in reality, the old games were never really "Classics." Reviewers all agreed, it was a below average game for the common gamer. Many gamers back then hated it too. Why? Well, because it is a blatant rip off of Battlefield.

So yeah, expect the same thing. As Battlefront 1 and 2 were hated by a lot of people, but loved by the Star Wars fans who understood how amazing the idea of stepping onto Hoth's snowy grounds, or flying above Cloud City's massive towers truly was. That's why I think I'll love the game. That's why I think many of us fans will enjoy the hell out of it. That's also why I think most people will just continue to hate it. Unfortunately it really doesn't hold up when compared to other AAA games coming out this month. But to the Star Wars fan. It will exceed our expectations.

Now, that's me being optimistic. If the game comes out. If the DLC is lackluster and just all around lazily done. If they somehow manage to break the game from the really clean Beta they just had. Then. And only then. Will I go to the mass consumer's side and say, "It really is shitty." But I can't let pessimism keep me from enjoying the galaxy far far away that I've followed for some 16 years now.

Edit: Let me add one thing. Those "emotes" they are adding. If there's one thing I could call shitty PR and marketing, it would be anything that has to do with those emotes. This isn't Counter Strike Global Offensive, this is not Dota 2, this is not League of Legends. What in the world do they think they're doing with these "Exclusive Emotes!" I'm never for stripping aspects from games, even if they are purely cosmetic/aesthetic. Either put them in the game as unlockables or keep them out entirely, but do not make me pay for a $60 season pass (which you haven't even detailed at all yet) just to get 2... "emotes."
Post edited November 06, 2015 by Scilaser
Well everybody is disappointed EA reboot battlefront,including myself.Well we still can go to the alternatives too.There's a game named "Angels Fall First" is almost similiar to Battlefront II gameplay.

Gmaeplay experiences
-Space battles;You can fly fighters and and capital ship to fight in space.Also you can fly dropship to hijack enemy capital ships to destroy capital ships core functions.After destroying the capital ships core function,you will feel the ship is exploding and crumbling.You will have to escape to hangar to fly any fighters to save your life before the whole ship is destroyed.

-Ground battles;Well the ground battles currently is chaotic,some people said.Also the gun sound isn't good enough to feel the gun sound impact and some AI pathing problem with vehicles.But the AI is also decent enough to give you challenge in offline instant action (Operations).And the AI also smart too,they do what commander instruct them to do not being a stupid idle character.Currently the AI problem is only AI pathing and RAM consuming too if too many AI in one map,but that don't effect our gameplay very serious though.

-32 vs 32 battles in all modes (Incursion,Territories)

-Insane Customisations with tons of weapons and loadouts,also including kits,grenade,and turrets. (For early access game)

-Vast map size and environments

-LAN functions and dedicated servers included

If you are Battlefront II fans but not star wars fans,play this game!You will not regret.I currently have spent 24 hours in this game.ANd the devs also very responsive too,not to mention their patch schedule is always tidy and acceptable for many of us.There are already 4 core patches released in 1 month,mostly performance fixes.I heard some rumours that next patch will add some new maps and stripes for weapons.
I will check the game out some time, as I don't mine playing a graphically improved battlefront with some new mechanics :).
I started playing last night with EA Early Access, and damn, this game is a lot of fun. I had some reservations about it as well...but it's been a lot of good ol' star wars fun.