Yup. Poor reviews are getting systematically downvoted while good reviews are being upvoted.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/64207/show-planescape-torment-enhanced-edition-some-love-on-gog-gogmixes/p1

And they are, of course, blaming it on GamerGaters or whatever since all the bad reviews are because of that Siege of Dragonspear mess. Suing people who give the game a poor review is a suggestion as well.

I don't see anyone from Beamdog stepping in and trying to debunk that false claim (again).

You can't downvote GOGmixes. And I only suggested upvoting the GOGmixes people liked, not upvoting all the positive ones nor doing something similar to reviews. I think it would be a horrible idea to tell everyone to do what you say was suggested to the regular reviews.

Edit: As far as my Dragonspear comment goes, yeah, I probably overstated that. I actually just started BG2 and the Hexxat thing bugs me. Minsc and Jaheira should really be upset by her. At the same time, I think it is fair to say that the controversy surrounding Dragonspear is a major catalyst to the negativity surrounding Beamdog. I facepalmed when I read that interview on Kotaku. That was handled so poorly.

We don't need shit threads about the EE in the wrong forum.

I don't think all of those people posting in Beamdog are the devil incarnate from what I've read.

Exactly. The Beamdog forums thread was simply a response to some mischaracterization going on in the GOG mixes, and then this thread ironically demonizes me (and others) for it, characterizing my intent to be very different than is clearly the case.

In reality I can see why people get upset by Beamdog. I don't think that is a valid reason to lie about people's intent. That was really all I was trying to accomplish there. Same thing here.

"It isn't fair that this game is getting bad publicity just because of Dragonspear controversy." Not quite true, is it? This is you telling a lie about people's intent, isn't it? Seen a ton of negativity towards this game, and it has zero to do with that SoD mess.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/50341/negative-reviews-on-gog-and-steam/p1

The whole thing is basically a continuation of this. Bad reviews = hate against the LGBT content because...GamerGate. The Planescape forum on GoG is the wrong forum for discussing the reviews of Planescape on GoG?

Thank God I never joined that stupid Gamergate fiasco.

It's just a bunch of whiners who complain almost on everything around them then they send white knights/write bullshit articles to threaten others who are against them.

Seriously, it's pathetic enough that I'd rather play a game than waste all day arguing with idiots online.

The EE has its own forum: https://www.gog.com/forum/planescape_torment_enhanced_edition#1493349802

Which makes sense, although it's a departure from the usual GOG practice of lumping all games from the same series into one forum (e.g. Fallout series). Technically the EE is a remake and not part of a "series" so maybe that has something to do with it.

https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/824693431100329984

That "gamergate fiasco" has been debunked by the FBI, actually. Over 80 percent of the "threats" and whatnot didn't actually originate from GamerGate users. And most of the threats reported to the FBI were actually memes.

So...you got the whole thing backwards. The reports are available to the public now. Didn't know about the new forum. Thanks for the info.

And I freely admitted I misspoke and gave my reasoning for why I said it and saw it that way. Look, let's stop with the silly finger pointing already. I'm cool with you. I just don't like being demonized just because I suggested people should upvote GOG mixes that don't falsely say Beamdog doesn't give credit to Black Isle Studios. And if you think that was wrong, that's fine. But don't go saying I suggested people go upvote and downvote reviews because that is an entirely different matter. In fact part of the conversation in that thread is about how unfortunate it is that the reviews are easily tampered with. I am definitely against review tampering.

https://www.gog.com/mix/beamdog_is_not_the_parasite_of_the_industry

Lets look at the little list you made earlier to defend Beamdog, shall we?

Planescape:Tormet - "themazingness says: Black Isle is properly credited. The gameplay and story are left unchanged in this Enhanced Edition."

Not true. The gameplay is altered. Right clicking doesn't bring up the menu wheel anymore. Just one example. The character sprites in the Classic-mode also look way worse than they do in the original Planescape game.


Siege of Dragonspear - "themazingness says: Fantastic game. It does still have some minor bugs. Battles in this game are fun and challenging. There is controversy over so-called SJW content, but the interview regarding it was much more offensive than the minor inclusion of said content."

The SJW controversy was a narrative Beamdog spun to play the victim-card. The bulk of the complaints were about how poorly written it was, how it created plot-holes, how it broke the FR lore all over the place, and how railroaded the story was.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=349130.0 This lady sums it up nicely.

Baldur's Gate 2 - "themazingness says: I'm looking forward to playing this. I have not heard of any SJW content in this version. " Really? You haven't heard of any SJW content in it? Try putting Hexxtat into your party. I agree in part though. The new companions in BG1 and 2 aren't that SJW heavy at all. It is there, sure, but it isn't that in your face. The new ones should have been optional in any case, as they are very poorly written, don't mix well with the other characters in terms of tone etc, and they tend to be rather intrusive.

So. What was your intent here, exactly?

Are we seriously implying anyone who doesn't like beamdog is a gamergater? I hope not, because that is a really cheap, stupid and dangerous cop out

It is an easy conclusion to draw when Beamdog have been known to beg for positive reviews in the past. If you look at the SoD reviews, for example, you will note that most of the positive reviews actually popped up right after the Beamdog CEO begged for them.
It has been a narrative since SoD came out. Don't like the plot-holes? You must be a GamerGater that hates the trans character. Beamdog told us so.

That's the trend I see nowadays...don't like what's presented to you in a game? Then you're a "gamergater."

It's like saying you hate paraplegics because they can't compete in a marathon. Sounds ridiculous right? So is this crazy "ethics" in gaming journalism.

Still, despite what Beamdog has done to its reputation lately, I'm glad to have bought their Icewind Dale EE at a cheaper price (despite owning the original game) since it's a different gameplay compared to the original one although I can't say the same to their Baldur's Gate versions.