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DARKFENOM: Um correct me if im wrong but didn't jodowood sell gothic out from under pb mid production gothic three to dreamcatcher? So gothic 4 risen is not pb!
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Kuchenschlachter: With pleasure! ;)

Seems like you've mixed things up. We're talking about Risen developed by Piranha Bytes and published by Deep Silver.

The game called Arcania: Gothic 4 was developed by Spellbound and published by Jowood. I said i dislike Gothic 3. In comparison to Arcania i love Gothic 3 more than anything. By claiming the name Gothic it taints the whole series.
I don't give a fuck wether the game might not be that bad on it's own(In my opinion it's not only bad as a Gothic it's fucking awful as a game), it is related to Gothic and as such it is a disgrace maybe on par with Gothic 3 Forsaken Gods.
Forsaken Gods was the first non-PB one (as an expansion), right?
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lordhoff: Forsaken Gods was the first non-PB one (as an expansion), right?
Yep. Following Gothic 3 PB and JoWood parted ways, with JoWood keeping the rights to the Gothic franchise. They farmed out the Forsaken Gods expansion to Trine Games (which ended up pretty terrible), then later farmed out Arcania to Spellbound.