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For years my employer has been stretching us a thiner and thiner, and Christmas is a bit notorious for being head rolling season. January through April those of us that keep dodging the ax generally only get about half our hours until the slow season shuffles on by. One coworker has been cut and brought back the last two years running. I've survived for about seven rounds of the stuff, but figured the way my year was going I was thematically destined to have my number come up.

I did have some hope in that there was very little way they could let me go without giving up entirely. Turns out I was right and they couldn't, so they are doing just that - giving up entirely. Looks like the few of us that are left are about to be left knee deep in the pickles.

I figure its not the most uncommon story. Anyone else get the Heave Ho Ho Ho?
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gooberking: For years my employer has been stretching us a thiner and thiner, and Christmas is a bit notorious for being head rolling season. January through April those of us that keep dodging the ax generally only get about half our hours until the slow season shuffles on by. One coworker has been cut and brought back the last two years running. I've survived for about seven rounds of the stuff, but figured the way my year was going I was thematically destined to have my number come up.

I did have some hope in that there was very little way they could let me go without giving up entirely. Turns out I was right and they couldn't, so they are doing just that - giving up entirely. Looks like the few of us that are left are about to be left knee deep in the pickles.

I figure its not the most uncommon story. Anyone else get the Heave Ho Ho Ho?
First I have to say that the first Ong-Bak is amazing.

And yes, it's kinda like that where I work.
Sorry to hear about that, gooberking. Hope things work out for you and your peers. :)
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gooberking: I did have some hope in that there was very little way they could let me go without giving up entirely. Turns out I was right and they couldn't, so they are doing just that - giving up entirely. Looks like the few of us that are left are about to be left knee deep in the pickles.

I figure its not the most uncommon story. Anyone else get the Heave Ho Ho Ho?
Very sorry to hear of your predicament, and while it hasn't happened to me in the same way (work for myself,) it is going to happen to about 400 workers where my sons work.

The 400 are technical contractors, and have no idea that their jobs are being outsourced overseas right after Christmas. I have told my sons that they are likely next, since they are in a group that manages and solves issues that the contractor group can't, and once the overseas operation becomes functional, their use to the company will be under scrutiny.

[When I "get it," a company will just not issue me a blanket purchase order to charge against, and phase me out via individual po's; at least I get a hint.]
At least you saw that coming.
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fortune_p_dawg: First I have to say that the first Ong-Bak is amazing.

And yes, it's kinda like that where I work.
;)
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keeveek: At least you saw that coming.
Well I can say I'm not shocked they are closing down, but I can't say I wasn't expecting something quite that drastic.

My skill set doesn't exactly cast a wide net employment wise, and I'm nearing the end of my rope already finance wise, so I'm going to be a little nervous if the magic job fairies don't turn up soon.
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keeveek: At least you saw that coming.
If to me, yes, even though both sides knew the effective cut off dates via contract at the inception of the agreement. Some clients would retain me for years, past that, and could only predict them through their issuance/non-issuance of blanket po's.

I actually declined a job once, over the dismissal of a guy I worked closely with in the company who let him go right before Christmas. There would have been a conflict of interest issue anyway, as I was still legally bound for the system I was putting in there at the time, but the treatment he received made me think twice about it too.
Just had a chat with someone and I came up with 6-7 years as an answer to when you can say 'career' instead of 'job'. By that point you are pretty invested and have tailored your life and education to that particular work, enough so that when they let you go you are really hosed unless it is a job you can do elsewhere. Otherwise it is re-training and start over time. :P

Good luck to you, I am starting my job search again next year as well so here's to plenty of luck for all this holiday season!
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gooberking: I did have some hope in that there was very little way they could let me go without giving up entirely. Turns out I was right and they couldn't, so they are doing just that - giving up entirely. Looks like the few of us that are left are about to be left knee deep in the pickles.
It hasn't happened to me, but it happened to my husband a few years ago. He contacted unemployment right away and then made finding a job his new job. Fortunately, all that hard work paid off and he did find a new job in about three months.

It really sucks that this happened to you. It sounds like you have good skills and work ethics or you wouldn't have survived the cut for so long. If you work at it, you'll find something soon. Good luck!

(edited for typo)
Post edited December 05, 2012 by burf90
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Dischord: Very sorry to hear of your predicament, and while it hasn't happened to me in the same way (work for myself,) it is going to happen to about 400 workers where my sons work.

The 400 are technical contractors, and have no idea that their jobs are being outsourced overseas right after Christmas. I have told my sons that they are likely next, since they are in a group that manages and solves issues that the contractor group can't, and once the overseas operation becomes functional, their use to the company will be under scrutiny.
Being outsourced to India by any chance? Based on several past experiences, your sons group will be busier than ever once the overseas operation is 'functional'... ;)
I got told i was loosing my (long time ago) job on december 21st. Really shitty thing to experience. I was lucky back then and found a new job before the end of january. My health caused me to leave my last job and that was not a good thing as now i am having trouble getting back into employment
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gooberking: Well I can say I'm not shocked they are closing down, but I can't say I wasn't expecting something quite that drastic.

My skill set doesn't exactly cast a wide net employment wise, and I'm nearing the end of my rope already finance wise, so I'm going to be a little nervous if the magic job fairies don't turn up soon.
Certainly wish you the best, not sure of your background, but don't despair over your "skill set " not casting a wide net. Have been there myself, on both ends, and what I never got the benefit of, but I always looked for, was character more than paper; plenty of smaller enterprises look for the same.

A genius, with advanced degrees, isn't worth a damn if they don't have the personal character and ethics to get the job done. As mentioned above, you have the work ethic, have survived many purges, and are where you are not because of anything you did or didn't do, but because company logic determined that operations were no longer economically feasible in your area; nothing personal against you at all.

Please don't sell yourself short, and kick it just as you have been.
Exactly a year ago, me and me 30 co-colleagues discovered our company was going to become bankrupt. A few weeks before the holidays, we heard the news that we weren't going to get our November pay checks, nor our Christmas bonus and the banks refused to let go of any money for us. This lead to all 30 of us being without a dime for 2 and a half months without any legal aid being possible. It was only a month after the official bankruptsy the 23rd of January this year that we started to receive the money we were owed.

I won't lie to you: it was very hard. Many had been working there for over 10 years, myself 7 and a half years. It was very very hard saying goodbye to my job even though the last year had been stressful and hard. But seeing everyone move on when you were like a family for a long time is the hardest part.

Time moves on, however, and I have a new job now, although it's very different in atmosphere. For many colleagues, the change was a positive one, however so don't despair - it can be good to be forced to move on and even though it will be hard for you for a while, it may benefit you in the long run.
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Crispy78: Being outsourced to India by any chance? Based on several past experiences, your sons group will be busier than ever once the overseas operation is 'functional'... ;)
Yes, and I kind of indicated the same to them (sons), but they [Indians] are in a very good position now, as they know and understand western ways well.

Colonialism can be a very useful thing when implemented properly, and not run too far past its course. Combination of good people, helped by good people, that will serve them well into the future. [imo]

Edit, vague pronoun reference.
Post edited December 05, 2012 by Dischord
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gooberking: Well I can say I'm not shocked they are closing down, but I can't say I wasn't expecting something quite that drastic.

My skill set doesn't exactly cast a wide net employment wise, and I'm nearing the end of my rope already finance wise, so I'm going to be a little nervous if the magic job fairies don't turn up soon.
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Dischord: Certainly wish you the best, not sure of your background, but don't despair over your "skill set " not casting a wide net. Have been there myself, on both ends, and what I never got the benefit of, but I always looked for, was character more than paper; plenty of smaller enterprises look for the same.

A genius, with advanced degrees, isn't worth a damn if they don't have the personal character and ethics to get the job done. As mentioned above, you have the work ethic, have survived many purges, and are where you are not because of anything you did or didn't do, but because company logic determined that operations were no longer economically feasible in your area; nothing personal against you at all.

Please don't sell yourself short, and kick it just as you have been.
I'm in a rather specialized field with no actual education. The only other game in town is a much more successful company, but unfortunately, most my co-workers migrated from there and universally paint it as a bit of an abusive place to work. I may be able to transition to print and sign shops if there are any nearby. So I'm not completely without options. I am packing a letter of recommendation from the owner. Never had one of those before. Hoping that will come in handy.
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Red_Avatar: Exactly a year ago, me and me 30 co-colleagues discovered our company was going to become bankrupt. A few weeks before the holidays, we heard the news that we weren't going to get our November pay checks, nor our Christmas bonus and the banks refused to let go of any money for us. This lead to all 30 of us being without a dime for 2 and a half months without any legal aid being possible. It was only a month after the official bankruptsy the 23rd of January this year that we started to receive the money we were owed.

I won't lie to you: it was very hard. Many had been working there for over 10 years, myself 7 and a half years. It was very very hard saying goodbye to my job even though the last year had been stressful and hard. But seeing everyone move on when you were like a family for a long time is the hardest part.

Time moves on, however, and I have a new job now, although it's very different in atmosphere. For many colleagues, the change was a positive one, however so don't despair - it can be good to be forced to move on and even though it will be hard for you for a while, it may benefit you in the long run.
That sucks. I always hear stories about people not getting paid. I can say that never happened to us. Apparently the main reason for that is the owner has been paying us out of his own pocket. He is rather successful (from what I can tell) in real estate, but his son said he was running out of money to do that and couldn't keep asking him to. That part kinda sucks because while the owners have had to make some hard choices along the way, they have always been very respectful of us as people. I feel like that is rare. Very few people are likely blessed with bosses like we had, but I hope to find out I'm wrong.
Post edited December 05, 2012 by gooberking