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hummer010: Yeah, I get the paying for windows thing. I picked up my windows 8 license when they had the $39 introductory rate. Linux has been my primary OS since 2006, and I vowed that Win2K would be the last version of windows i ever purchased, but $39 for a retail version was too good a deal to pass up.
Here they gave it up for free in the universities…
Downloaded it, ran Virtualbox, crashed it, didn't try again.
(no way I'm doing a hard install of it on my PC)
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hedwards: No, most of them seem to be related to Java in some way, but I also had a difficult time getting it to install in the first place. Not sure why, it wasn't a problem with 15 or 16.

The release just doesn't seem to be as stable as previous releases. But, it's still a good release, it's just not as good as previous releases were for some reason.
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Ganni1987: Haven't read about that, I'll keep it in check though. Since the next few releases will still be based on the Ubuntu LTS release I'm going to wait for that and see how things go.
From what I understand the Java problems are basically because Oracle isn't playing nice and trying to hijack the implementation. There's a ton of updates coming in right now in general, so I'm guessing that within the next few months 17 will be more or less stabilized. Considering that it's an LTS release, that's not really that big of a deal.
Ok, I'm going to set up a couple of builds @ pcpartpicker.com - one with Linux (Ubuntu or Mint), one with Windows 8.1 to help with the pondering process.

Meanwhile, I don't pretend to understand the discussion about GPUs in this thread. Someone give it to me straight up - For Linux, do I want nvidia or AMD? I know drivers are the issue and I know that, at least in the recent past, the proprietary nvidia drivers were just straight up better than the AMD drivers. Is that still true?
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hummer010: Yeah, I get the paying for windows thing. I picked up my windows 8 license when they had the $39 introductory rate. Linux has been my primary OS since 2006, and I vowed that Win2K would be the last version of windows i ever purchased, but $39 for a retail version was too good a deal to pass up.
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vv221: Here they gave it up for free in the universities…
Downloaded it, ran Virtualbox, crashed it, didn't try again.
(no way I'm doing a hard install of it on my PC)
They probably have a site license for the copies. The college that my mother works for used to do that for staff. I think now it's like a $10 fee.
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marlowe221: Ok, I'm going to set up a couple of builds @ pcpartpicker.com - one with Linux (Ubuntu or Mint), one with Windows 8.1 to help with the pondering process.

Meanwhile, I don't pretend to understand the discussion about GPUs in this thread. Someone give it to me straight up - For Linux, do I want nvidia or AMD? I know drivers are the issue and I know that, at least in the recent past, the proprietary nvidia drivers were just straight up better than the AMD drivers. Is that still true?
I'm not sure if you looking at a desktop or a laptop, and I guess it doesn't really matter. My laptop has an Intel HD4600 / nVidia GTX765M hybrid setup. I'm running Arch 64-bit. The nVidia binary driver installs without an issue, and games run fine on it. I have had zero issues with my laptop, nvidia or otherwise.

I haven't used an AMD/ATi card in several years, so I can't really comment.
Oh, sorry! This would be a Desktop that I'm going to build.

Edit: I also didn't mean to make that last post of mine sound as snarky as I think it came out - sorry about that!
Post edited June 24, 2014 by marlowe221