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Posted December 09, 2014
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F1ach: Is this the guy who made the DRM post this morning? Kinda curious as both are noob accounts obviously trolling for Steam vs GOG..

Gabe if that's you, GTFO, kthxbye.
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lordofkrikkit: I made a DRM post this morning that seems to have been deleted, if that's what you're referring to, although it was decidedly not Pro-Steam.
Yeah, apparently it was deleted in error when the forum glitched somehow, was nothing to do with the actual content of the post, just so you know :).
Posted December 09, 2014
That would be comforting to know - not a big censorship fan.

I can't seem to make new threads, but maybe that's a glitch too. Will try again later. =)
Posted December 09, 2014
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lordofkrikkit: That would be comforting to know - not a big censorship fan.

I can't seem to make new threads, but maybe that's a glitch too. Will try again later. =)
Dunno about starting threads, cant imagine why you cant, anyway, here's a post from a mod about how your thread was deleted, maybe PM them and see if there is a reason why you cannot start a new thread :

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/what_happened_to_the_eula_guy/post15
Posted December 09, 2014
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Meneldil: Let's just say that I've had a bad experience with Impulse already: I'm completely unable to access the dozen of games I purchased there, ever since Impulse has been bought by gamestop.
That's strange. I had no problem. To verify, I just downloaded the GameStop App and I can see both games I bought on Impulse (Shadowgrounds and Galactic Civilizations II). Haven't tried to actually install them, but it sure looks like I can. I also had GalCiv II added to my Stardock account when GameStop bought Impluse. So I, at least, haven't lost anything.

I have to say that when it comes to games, buyouts haven't been a real problem for me. Both Impulse and Direct2Drive games are still available to me. (Not that I really need the Impulse ones, since I have Shadowgrounds on Steam and GalCiv II on Stardock).
Posted December 09, 2014
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HereForTheBeer: So let me ask the obvious question: does Steam sell GOG codes for redemption of games on this site?
Steam doesn't sell codes for any other service as far as I know. The famous case is new Origin games (like Mass Effect 3, Battlefield 4). They simply do not sell the game.
Posted December 09, 2014
Very good: Steam doesn't sell gOg.

So my next questions (to whomever):

If Steam won't sell gOg codes / keys, then why should the reverse be expected?

If gOg is expected to acknowledge and support the advantages of Steam's system, then why is Steam not expected to return the favor?
Posted December 10, 2014
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timppu: Do you believe that selling Steam keys on the side can be only beneficial to GOG, also in the long run? Why isn't Origin selling Steam keys then?

It all boils down to whether the store believes and is ready to invest in its own service and infrastructure, or wants to make the quick buck by merely selling keys to other services. Origin and GOG have chosen to invest in their own service (including multiplayer support etc.), while e.g. GamersGate and GMG seem to mostly have given up with their own service, and decided to continue as mere key sellers. I don't expect them to invest on their service anymore, like coming up with an improved client, multiplayer support etc. No, people go to those places anymore just to buy Steam keys, that's all. They've made their own service irrelevant by promoting Steam.
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synfresh: The difference comparing Origin (EA) and GoG is that Origin doesn't sell steam keys but they do sell origin keys on services other than their own (Amazon, GMG, etc). GoG doesn't have self published games to sell at other stores to drive traffic to GoG. I don't know if it would be beneficial to GoG to sell Steam keys, I'm sure it would increase traffic to the site in general. The better question is why doesn't GoG distribute GoG keys to other distributors in order to increase traffic (and brand recognition)?

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SpooferJahk: GOG giving an option to play something they sold you on a competitor? That's an interesting concept...
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synfresh: Why does GoG care where you 'play' the game you purchased from them? You don't play a game on GoG when you buy it from them (at least not until Galaxy gets here). In fact you can add GoG games as a non-Steam game to the steam client.
What I said was sarcasm that meant that it is ridiculous to expect GOG to allow someone to register a product they sold you on a competitor's client. If you add it as a non-Steam game, that's okay, but just saying that being able to activate a GOG game on Steam is kind of a ridiculous idea from a competition standpoint.
Posted December 10, 2014
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HereForTheBeer: Very good: Steam doesn't sell gOg.

So my next questions (to whomever):

If Steam won't sell gOg codes / keys, then why should the reverse be expected?

If gOg is expected to acknowledge and support the advantages of Steam's system, then why is Steam not expected to return the favor?
Because Steam doesn't acknowledge anyone else, including Origin (you get to do this btw when you are 1 in the digital marketplace and nobody else is even close). Why does Steam need to acknowledge GoG when CDP sells Witcher titles on Steam to be redeemed on Steam?
Post edited December 10, 2014 by synfresh
Posted December 10, 2014
Why is it assumed that gOg needs to follow all of the policies of its parent company, especially when this subsidiary has taken a specific position that distinctly sets it apart from - and provides the opportunity to successfully compete against - the 800-pound gorilla?

There is a fallacy in equating CDPs game development and marketing policies to gOg's policies, and also Valve's game development and marketing policies to Steam's policies.
Posted December 10, 2014
Edit: Actually, Enebias said absolutely everything I could wish to say. Cheers.
Post edited December 10, 2014 by Melhelix
Posted December 10, 2014
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HereForTheBeer: Why is it assumed that gOg needs to follow all of the policies of its parent company, especially when this subsidiary has taken a specific position that distinctly sets it apart from - and provides the opportunity to successfully compete against - the 800-pound gorilla?

There is a fallacy in equating CDPs game development and marketing policies to gOg's policies, and also Valve's game development and marketing policies to Steam's policies.
I equated CDP and GoG because it's not followed by someone like Origin (another competitor to GoG). Origin does not sell newer titles on Steam but newer EA titles are sold at third party sites to be redeemed at origin. EA is the parent company of Origin. Valve sells their titles on third party sites but only to be redeemed on steam. CDP does not do this, they don't allow their titles to only be redeemed on GoG.
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