I think the price point of GOG goes a long way. What I mean by that is if I don't buy lunch tomorrow, I could buy a game here. The main issue I have with purchasing games is the cost, second is DRM. So there, GOG takes care of both.

Only children and those who feel they're 'sticking it to the man' as one put it, pirate. Real adult persons don't have the time to fool with torrents or deal with DRM; Nor are they willing to pay $60+ for a crap new game with <15 hours of value.

'oh but its got DLC and sandbox, and if you pre-order you get a hat...'

You get my point.

Thank you GOG for getting it right.

The only time I ever considered downloading GOG.com games illegally was when they went down(that hoax) and I thought it was the end (still didn't do it mind)

Frankly, I dont see much point in pirating something like this, I mean, its cheap... doesnt use DRM... (like STEAM *shudders*) and overall is a site worth supporting

I'm not against Short games as long as they are good, hell, vanquish was like 6 hours long for me and it was one of the best third person shooters I have ever played

The problem here is Short BAD games without any REPLAY value whatsoever, once you complete this game - there is no point in playing it again

Kane and Lynch 2 was an example of this, very bad game, 4 hours long - just complete shit overall, people who bought it full price are compelte retards

On the topic of piracy, it's kind of funny how people always associate PC gaming with piracy, and yet at this very moment there are more peopel downloading ISO's of 360 games than PC games, not to mention that all the big stuff always gets leaked for 360 first - New vegas, Halo reach, Grears 2 etc

Remember when Farcry 2 was leaked years ago? both the 360 version and PC version almost at the same time? the 360 version was downloaded much more

I definitely agree with you, but remember, without a PC how can you 'pirate' in the first place?

I hear that so often and its outright wrong, so I think I really can't hear it anymore. Do you want me to tell you how many friends I know of who are pirating games while not being broken? Sorry, but I can only laugh about the idea of the pirates being only poor people not able to buy a game. Every pirate has a computer and an internet connection, they can buy a game from time to time. They are simply criminals. Thats it. Lets persecute them like we are persecuting every criminal.

And I stay with it, its millions lost in a short time. In a multi-billion business this is easily achieved.

Partly. Many people pirate stuff they wouldn't buy because they are interested in a product but not enough to buy it. They pirate it because they can, play it, then uninstall it. If that is the case, there is actually no damage done - if these people are still buying as many products like they did before starting their career as pirates. This by no means legalizes piracy but you have to keep this in mind if you are talking about the damage that is done by piracy. It has been proven that the numbers you get from the movie and music industries are made up.

Every day my colleague and me are getting new clients who have been supposedly caught downloading music or movies (9/10 cases being music tracks or albums, the rest are porn flicks). All these people have been using (or at least the opposing lawyers say so) the eMule or torrent network, and every time it is said that they caused a damage in the thousands or even tens of thousands by simultaneously uploading what they pirated. Ridiculous.

Surely the numbers are completely wrong. Let the truth be only 10% of what industry claims, which still would be a considerable amount of money.

Just from what I see: people pay to eat at McDonals 10 bucks, going to the movies 10 bucks, drinking a coffee in a coffeehouse 5 bucks, buying new trainers 100 bucks. I don't say that pirates could buy every game they download, thats indeed ridiculous, but one full game per three month maybe is reasonable for many pirates, I am sure.

Since we don't know how many pirates would resort to buying if downloading wouldn't be possible, I guess the financial loss remains unclear. However, I am sure, for a big title its still millions.

Lets make an example:

Big title = 5 million sales for 40$ each
Assumed piracy loss = 2 million $ = 50,000 units
Assummed that only every fifth pirate would buy it actually = 250,000 pirated copies
Piracy rate = 250K/5M * 100% = 5% (more than reasonable)

Talked the other with a causal gamer and pirate, his main argument was : "I don't have much esteem for video games and people who makes them." This got me angry, but you can't relay argue in a constructive way with such argument. However, ihmo, it explains a lot of things on how some people perceive the whole industry. So figure out how it'll be with GOG, loads of people just consider this site as pure crap and easy money making out of titles that "should" be free because they're old and have crappy graphics.

What's funny is that these are the same kind of people who don't look at other companies

I mean, hell, NINTENDO CHARGES 5 DOLLARS FOR SUPER MARIO BROTHERS ON THE WII VIRTUAL CONSOLE! 5 BUCKS! FOR A 25 YEAR OLD GAME! AND THEY ARE OK WITH THAT but when GoG tries to sell extremely good games for cheap, NOOOO HOW DARE THEY - EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE

People like these have no reason or grounds of reality. A game is worth what a game is worth. Planescape torment, a game that was released over 10 years ago still in my opinion has some of the best writing in a videogame ever and there is a good reason why people are willing to pay money to play it. On the other hand...I can't think of a single person who bought Empire earth III here on GoG....

If you look through the comments regarding GOG torrents you will see that there seem to be two kinds of people: Those who do not care about anything at all and the others who say that pirating from some unliked company like EA/ActiBlizzard/Ubisoft etc. is ok but not from GOG as they really care for and support the games they are selling. It is the same with indie developers: There are those who pirated Amnesia, World of Goo etc. and others who find this unethical. Obviously, several pirates have a sense of "this company deserves my dough while another does not".

Obviously there are different kind of pirates

Some pirates do not care about the developers/publishers, just pirate anyway and never buy anything

however there are some pirates that buy games after they have pirated them if they were extremely good or if they think the Developer or Publisher deserves their support

Piracy can be a touchy subject but some publishers take it far too extremely with all these restrictions and DRM bull which do not stop the pirates one little bit

you guys remember anno 1404 and what happened when it came out? it was protected very VERY well by special protection measures and yet pirates still found a way around it after about 2 weeks

Honestly? Humble Indie Bundle proved that there's no such thing as an ethical pirate.

true, that indie bundle was pirated to hell and back

but on the other hand....it made a lot of money and the people who made this bundle said that it was "a success far beyond they have ever imagined it would be"

I agree. Even a poor guy can purchase these games, and would help a good cause.

I feel the putrid odor of a pirate.




Just kidding. :p