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LynXsh: ye. it does require you to create an acc on https://ut4.timiimit.com/ which will give you an ID that you'll have to give your UT4 on startup.
and the ID expires within 2 weeks if you don't play.
so you have to either play regularly or renew your ID on timiimit from time to time.
I find it too bothersome and stick to 99, 2004 and 3.
also, custom maps are HUGE, too. disk space-wise.
Yep, just can't be bothered with all that. I'll stick to what I have on disc and got through GOG.

If I ever feel motivated enough, I could follow the instructions on that site for creating my own server, but that is very unlikely to happen.

I honestly don't know why you just can't play the SP aspect offline. And LAN could be good for anything else.

Why do they have to make everything so damn complex etc.
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Timboli: Yep, just can't be bothered with all that. I'll stick to what I have on disc and got through GOG.

If I ever feel motivated enough, I could follow the instructions on that site for creating my own server, but that is very unlikely to happen.

I honestly don't know why you just can't play the SP aspect offline. And LAN could be good for anything else.

Why do they have to make everything so damn complex etc.
on one hand, even the community version is just a bit fixed up pre-alpha with all strings attached. maintainers didn't patch all this crap out, sadly.
on the other hand, even my UT3 had issues with the offline profile (I might be unlucky) like not saving some of options. so I'd created the online one. therefore it was Epic simply continuing being jerks.
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Reznov64: No agenda, I just don't like this modern era where we have created a massive digital library filled with books, music, art, movies and other forms of entertainment that we can lose access to any of those works just because a piece of paper with a contract or license on it expires.
It gets frustrating to read folk saying this. Folk that are clearly not using GOG properly.

The way DRM-Free works, is that you download your game files from GOG and backup. If you are not doing that, you aren't using GOG properly, and certainly aren't doing the DRM-Free thing.

GOG are seemingly trying to be everything to everyone, without really expressing what is truly important about DRM-Free.

GOG should be encouraging customers to download and backup, but they aren't. Instead they push the download+install process of Galaxy.

I understand why GOG does that, it makes many of their customers continually reliant on GOG, probably most of them.
But the flaw, is that GOG could at need or desire, remove games from our library.

Most sites on the web that sell digital product, only give you a limited amount of time to download it, and for some it is within 14 days.

Hell, a music site I use for FLAC files etc, Qobuz, just recently decided to do similar after not having done so for years. I guess it costs to continually host files, especially if those files are no longer available for sale on the store. Quite reasonably, they expect folk who bought the files, to have downloaded them long ago. In fact, there are a number of cloud services around, where you can if you want, upload your digital files to. Stores are about making money, and so cost cutting is a big part of that.

It is being unrealistic at best, to expect a store to keep hosting files it no longer sells. EDIT - And in a very real way, it is likely the providers of such files, that are the cause. If the artist or publisher have decided the store can no longer sell their files, then why should the store keep them in storage. I know I wouldn't want to if I was the store.
Post edited October 06, 2024 by Timboli
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Reznov64: No agenda, I just don't like this modern era where we have created a massive digital library filled with books, music, art, movies and other forms of entertainment that we can lose access to any of those works just because a piece of paper with a contract or license on it expires.
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Timboli: It gets frustrating to read folk saying this. Folk that are clearly not using GOG properly.

The way DRM-Free works, is that you download your game files from GOG and backup. If you are not doing that, you aren't using GOG properly, and certainly aren't doing the DRM-Free thing.

GOG are seemingly trying to be everything to everyone, without really expressing what is truly important about DRM-Free.

GOG should be encouraging customers to download and backup, but they aren't. Instead they push the download+install process of Galaxy.

I understand why GOG does that, it makes many of their customers continually reliant on GOG, probably most of them.
But the flaw, is that GOG could at need or desire, remove games from our library.

Most sites on the web that sell digital product, only give you a limited amount of time to download it, and for some it is within 14 days.

Hell, a music site I use for FLAC files etc, Qobuz, just recently decided to do similar after not having done so for years. I guess it costs to continually host files, especially if those files are no longer available for sale on the store. Quite reasonably, they expect folk who bought the files, to have downloaded them long ago. In fact, there are a number of cloud services around, where you can if you want, upload your digital files to. Stores are about making money, and so cost cutting is a big part of that.

It is being unrealistic at best, to expect a store to keep hosting files it no longer sells. EDIT - And in a very real way, it is likely the providers of such files, that are the cause. If the artist or publisher have decided the store can no longer sell their files, then why should the store keep them in storage. I know I wouldn't want to if I was the store.
The problem is they don't warn us about pending delistings. They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam. I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
Post edited October 07, 2024 by Reznov64
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Timboli: It gets frustrating to read folk saying this. Folk that are clearly not using GOG properly.

The way DRM-Free works, is that you download your game files from GOG and backup. If you are not doing that, you aren't using GOG properly, and certainly aren't doing the DRM-Free thing.

GOG are seemingly trying to be everything to everyone, without really expressing what is truly important about DRM-Free.

GOG should be encouraging customers to download and backup, but they aren't. Instead they push the download+install process of Galaxy.

I understand why GOG does that, it makes many of their customers continually reliant on GOG, probably most of them.
But the flaw, is that GOG could at need or desire, remove games from our library.

Most sites on the web that sell digital product, only give you a limited amount of time to download it, and for some it is within 14 days.

Hell, a music site I use for FLAC files etc, Qobuz, just recently decided to do similar after not having done so for years. I guess it costs to continually host files, especially if those files are no longer available for sale on the store. Quite reasonably, they expect folk who bought the files, to have downloaded them long ago. In fact, there are a number of cloud services around, where you can if you want, upload your digital files to. Stores are about making money, and so cost cutting is a big part of that.

It is being unrealistic at best, to expect a store to keep hosting files it no longer sells. EDIT - And in a very real way, it is likely the providers of such files, that are the cause. If the artist or publisher have decided the store can no longer sell their files, then why should the store keep them in storage. I know I wouldn't want to if I was the store.
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Reznov64: The problem is they don't warn us about pending delistings. They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam. I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
What are you talking about? GOG usually creates a thread when a game is being delisted.

Also, I still have Spec Ops in my library. You should contact GOG about this because it should not be removed. Unless you bought the game on Key site.

I have been on GOG since 2011 and have never had games removed from my library due to delisting.
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Post edited October 07, 2024 by Syphon72
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Reznov64: They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam.
I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
OK, this is where I call BS.

If "Spec Ops: The Line" was really removed from your account, it was because you didn't buy it here on GOG, but on some shady key-reseller site (as Syphon72 already pointed out).

A second possibility: at some point, you created a second GOG account (for whatever reasons), whose existence you forgot about, and "SO:TL" is tied to that second account.

Heck - the account on which you bought "SO:TL" might've even been the first GOG account you ever created, before the one, that you're using now...
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Reznov64: ]
The problem is they don't warn us about pending delistings. They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam. I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
Third option to mentioned before

Are you sure you didnt hide the game in your library?

Cause they do not remove games from accounts unless fraudulent purchase or reimbursement.
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Reznov64: ]
The problem is they don't warn us about pending delistings. They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam. I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
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lukaszthegreat: Third option to mentioned before

Are you sure you didnt hide the game in your library?

Cause they do not remove games from accounts unless fraudulent purchase or reimbursement.
Game is gone from my library completely, not hidden at all. Cannot find it or install it anymore.
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Reznov64: The problem is they don't warn us about pending delistings. They also remove games from our libraries without warning, just like Steam. I was hoping GOG didn't do this but it seems they do, my copy of Spec Ops: The Line is gone.
GOG post about de-listings quite regularly.
I've only ever known GOG to remove the odd Demo, never a game.
Spec Ops: The Line is still present in my GOG library.

Either you aren't checking properly, or you have (or had) more than one GOG account.
Or possibly you got the game via a key reseller and it wasn't legitimate, so got removed.

In any case, none of it should be an issue for you, if you are using GOG properly. If you are relying on GOG to store a game for you, then that is your mistake right there.
Post edited October 09, 2024 by Timboli