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GameRager: I was just trying to make a general point.

Also, I wasn't talking mainly about how one can be seen as good/bad depending on the person looking at them/valuing them, but more that one can say/do something that's considered bad but be doing it for good reasons and/or are just having their words/actions taken out of context.
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sanscript: I was just joking ;)

But yes, I can agree on that, but he still refers to "liberals" as "they", and yet he wanted that girl more than anything (like a prize, or a mountain he wants to climb) even though it somehow went "against" his belief. That's why I wrote that he almost sounded like (I drew some well known connection), and having a case of cognitive dissonance.

In short: "cognitive dissonance can occur in many areas of life, but it is particularly evident in situations where an individual's behaviour/thinking conflicts with beliefs/values/ideas that are integral to his or her self-identity."

So I don't think it was too much out of context...

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GameRager: An aside to your example: Funny thing but there were likely a good number of SS who were not truly evil/didn't hate anyone yet they had to fall in line or get shot/jailed/etc.
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sanscript: Horrible thought actually. All too often (especially in war) we're essentially giving up who we are just to blend in or just to survive.

Side note: Years after the war people still got executed for being a collaborator. Even the police shoved in under the rug... One of those groups in Norway called MILORG executed people but no one got caught. No one even knows who even pulled the trigger and they took everything with them to the grave.

One has to wonder how many of those people actually were innocence, or wasn't as evil as they were portrayed to be.
1. I get the cognitive dissonance thing, and as for taking stuff out of context: I was mainly talking about all who do it and not pointing that statement towards/at you per se. :)

2. It reminds me of how many "conservative" people nowadays have to hide how they feel on some issues because if they said such online/irl they might get attacked/arrested/shunned/fired/etc(same with those on the left/liberal side getting attacked by those on the opposing side, I guess, but in their case it's to less of a degree due to how the social pendulum is swinging atm). Stuff like wanting controlled(not halted or targeted) immigration makes some who want such to be seen as racist/etc, or how some view everyone who pushes progressive stuff to all be evil SJWs.

As for wartime stuff: I remember reading(on sadly sites filled with some actual nazis) some interesting stuff about all the atrocities committed against many germans after the war(many were put into the german's prison camps and mistreated/killed)....it made me feel a bit more sympathy for the germans in those cases, for obvious reasons(and I never thought i'd agree with actual nazis on anything).
I'm supposed to go outside and enjoy nice weather which is like a blessing in England.

Woah, how the hell did the discussion turn from "What Should you be doing instead of browsing the Forums?" to "a good number of SS who were not truly evil/"?? O_O
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DelanHellforce: I'm supposed to go outside and enjoy nice weather which is like a blessing in England.
We got nine inches of snow last week. :P
Post edited May 15, 2019 by tinyE
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DelanHellforce: I'm supposed to go outside and enjoy nice weather which is like a blessing in England.

Woah, how the hell did the discussion turn from "What Should you be doing instead of browsing the Forums?" to "a good number of SS who were not truly evil/"?? O_O
I should be playing more of my backlog right now...which i'll do in a bit to remedy that.

(As for the offtopic.....that's the nature of natural human conversation....it often goes from one tangent to another[to varying degrees])

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DelanHellforce: I'm supposed to go outside and enjoy nice weather which is like a blessing in England.
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tinyE: We got nine inches of snow last week. :P
That must suck....what with running an inn and all...unless you get plow service, that is.
Post edited May 15, 2019 by GameRager
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DelanHellforce: I'm supposed to go outside and enjoy nice weather which is like a blessing in England.

Woah, how the hell did the discussion turn from "What Should you be doing instead of browsing the Forums?" to "a good number of SS who were not truly evil/"?? O_O
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GameRager: I should be playing more of my backlog right now...which i'll do in a bit to remedy that.

(As for the offtopic.....that's the nature of natural human conversation....it often goes from one tangent to another[to varying degrees])

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tinyE: We got nine inches of snow last week. :P
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GameRager: That must suck....what with running an inn and all...unless you get plow service, that is.
everyone up here has a tractor.
we average 21-22 feet of snow a year (we topped out at 27 feet this year) but the roads NEVER close and the schools NEVER get a snow day, so we know how to deal with it.

I usually just mention it to freak people out but the fact is, it's a lot easier to get around up here compared to other placed I've lived, despite the weather.
Post edited May 15, 2019 by tinyE
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GameRager: I should be playing more of my backlog right now...which i'll do in a bit to remedy that.

(As for the offtopic.....that's the nature of natural human conversation....it often goes from one tangent to another[to varying degrees])

That must suck....what with running an inn and all...unless you get plow service, that is.
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tinyE: everyone up here has a tractor.
we average 21-22 feet of snow a year (we topped out at 27 feet this year) but the roads NEVER close and the schools NEVER get a snow day, so we know how to deal with it.

I usually just mention it to freak people out but the fact is, it's a lot easier to get around up here compared to other placed I've lived, despite the weather.
So no the shining style snowed in problems then? Good. That sucks in so many ways, I would suspect.
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